US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

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... okay?

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

If a meteor had crashed into the Earth, we might have all die, but that isn't what happened.

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

It's great that a Dem is winning in a traditional Republican district on a don't let the Republicans destroy medicare platform, but as I said yesterday if there wasn't a 3rd party candidate, she might have lost.

Nate Silver said the Dem still would have won by two points.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

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In other news, I'm not even going to post The Corner's gism-covered posts about Netanyahu's speech to Congress.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),

The Washington Post and others are also still beating up on Obama for daring to say "1967 borders"

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

x-post- Uh nevermind. Nate's math is better than mine.

In other news:
How Joplin, Missouri aid is being paid for (from Washington Monthly blog):

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) announced yesterday that congressional Republicans would like to help the victims of the brutal tornado in Joplin, Missouri, but emergency aid wouldn’t be automatic. The community would get its federal disaster relief, just as soon as the GOP received a ransom: off-setting spending cuts.

He wasn’t kidding. When Tom DeLay was the House Majority Leader, Republican agreed that emergency disaster relief should be immediate. But by 2011 standards, Tom DeLay was a moderate.

And sure enough, House Republicans yesterday approved a $1 billion aid package, right after they got their payoff.

House Republicans, who require spending cuts whenever new spending is proposed, said the FEMA funds would be paid by cutting $1.5 billion from an Energy Department loan program for the production of fuel-efficient vehicles.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

refusing to respond to the kind of disaster that climate change contributes to until cuts are are made to the kind of program that helps to mitigate climate change.

brilliant. those fuckers

Z S, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

Credit where credit is due.

(He's still a crazy semi-racist Aqua Buddha.)

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Assholes like Rand Paul just want to limit the reach of the federal government so that local governments can step in as the fascist enforcer of choice. I'd believe his principled blather if his so-called libertarianism extended to drugs and abortions.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

well, the Senate is made of alliances, holy and otherwise, so I'd work with him if I was a lib fighting like hell to keep the Patriot Act from getting extended.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

House Republicans, who require spending cuts whenever new spending is proposed, said the FEMA funds would be paid by cutting $1.5 billion from an Energy Department loan program for the production of fuel-efficient vehicles.

jesus christ, talk about divide and rule

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

wake me up when military spending is subject to the same logic

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Greenwald wrote about yesterday massive congressionellatio for Netanyahu

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

yesterday's that is

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

And Greenwald nicely attacked David Brooks too.

From Greenwald I see that the 8 who voted against cloture on the Patriot Act extension were:

The 8 Senators voting against cloture were Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders, Democrats Jeff Merkley, Mark Begich, Max Baucus, and John Tester, and GOP Senators Lisa Murkowski, Rand Paul, and Dean Heller (GOP Sen. Mike Lee announced he'd vote NO but missed the vote due to inclement weather). Sen. Paul, along with Sen. Tester, took the lead in speaking out against the excesses and abuses of the Patriot Act and the vital need for reforms.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Make the plunge, doctor: "I admire President Obama for standing up to him, knowing he'd take flak from all sides."

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

It's weird who Obama will stand up to, although its also not clear whether he will stick with whatever belief he is espousing when he first does so.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Baucus against the Patriot Act?! huh

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Tester from Montana is a centrist mostly too

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Obama has always said good things, clemenza, which seldom come to pass and are often retracted by his deeds.

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

congressionellatio

!!! <3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

wake me up when military spending is subject to the same logic

Or trimming tax breaks to Big Oil by about 5%. But the budget can ONLY be balanced on the backs of the EPA, Planned Parenthood, public television, teachers' unions...

The hoppiest hop hopper now with xtra hops (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

remember in January and February when even a few scattered Republicans said DOD cuts were "on the table"? Are any of them still saying so?

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Feingold may try to come back. That way in 4 years, there can be 9 senators instead of 8, trying to prevent another extension of the Patriot Act.

In Wisconsin, if former Sen. Russ Feingold (D) decides to run for retiring Sen. Herb Kohl’s (D) seat, PPP shows him as the clear early frontrunner. In hypothetical match-ups, Feingold leads all of the likely Republican candidates in margins ranging from 10 to 15 points. Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D) does well, but not nearly as well.

from Washington Monthly

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

Obama has always said good things, clemenza, which seldom come to pass and are often retracted by his deeds.

I hear you. Don't get your hopes up on this one--this is one battle no president is going to follow through on. I'm just hoping he's doing what everyone wanted him to do on health care, which is aim for something that's just not going to happen, then settle for a pretty good halfway mark.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

halfway looked like 14/15 wrong to me

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

I'm just hoping

just as he planned!

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

From the campaign on, Obama has rarely paid much lip service (fellatio or otherwise) to Israel. It just hasn't seemed anywhere near the top of his priorities, and when he does talk about it, it's pro forma palaver, devoid of much passion. So if he was going to stand-up to anyone, it'd be Israel/Netanyahu. If only he were so "tough" about domestic issues he and his constituents purportedly care about.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

I think part of it is that he doesn't perceive any political risks from being kinda dickish to Israel (ie, they need us WAY more badly than we need them, especially in the currently rapidly shifting political landscape of the Middle East)

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

quick question: which is more radical, a US president making explicit reference to the "1967 borders" in a speech about the middle east, or an Israeli PM calling the west bank "judea and samaria" on the floor of the US congress?

goole, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

did he really do that

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

jesus

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

no irony intended

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

did he call Iran the Persian Caliphate

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israeli-prime-minister-binyamin-netanyahus-address-to-congress/2011/05/24/AFWY5bAH_print.html

Now, this is not easy for me. It’s not easy...

... because I recognize that in a genuine peace, we’ll be required to give up parts of the ancestral Jewish homeland. And you have to understand this: In Judea and Samaria, the Jewish people are not foreign occupiers.

We’re not the British in India. We’re not the Belgians in the Congo. This is the land of our forefathers, the land of Israel, to which Abraham brought the idea of one God, where David set out to confront Goliath, and where Isaiah saw a vision of eternal peace.

No distortion of history -- and boy, am I reading a lot of distortions of history lately, old and new -- no distortion of history could deny the 4,000-year-old bond between the Jewish people and the Jewish land.

goole, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

ugh fucking noxious bullshit

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

so "giving up" the land that doesn't already have settlements, walled roads or military installations on it will be painful for bibi! i guess that makes it even then.

goole, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.min.us/icAP9I.png

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

NetanYahoo! Answers

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

How far back does Netanyahu's "dibs" go, exactly? Because by his standard there's got to be a whole lot of giving back around the world, if multi-millennial rights trump the present.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

oh thx a lot Bill

this fucking guy

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Cockblocker-in-Chief

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

i had to spend a minute thinking abt grassley to figure out whether "Netanyahoo" was #shotsfired or not

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

bill's not wrong...?

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

he's not wrong, but saying that at this time = thinly coded message that Medicare being gutted is a likely Dem proposal

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

We’re not the British in India. We’re not the Belgians in the Congo. This is the land of our forefathers, the land of Israel, to which Abraham brought the idea of one God, where David set out to confront Goliath, and where Isaiah saw a vision of eternal peace.

real far-sighted there, isaiah!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

ahahaha

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

Clinton then told Ryan that if he ever wanted to talk about it, he should give him a call.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

"it" = "forcing the Democrats to abandon their we-have-a-plan-it's-called-Medicare proposal," not "French whores."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

are you sure you mean "not" and not "as well as"

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

is Ryan an expert in French whores or something

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link


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