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caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"Coulter's new book was Amazon.com's most popular selection Wednesday night."

..right.

DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't see it but her strength on television is an inhuman ability to not get flustered, ever, no matter how outrageously heated the conversation gets, which it always does - she just flounces around the conversation with a supercilious, above-it-all manner that lets her laugh everything off

Ding ding! That she says these mock-horrors with such insouciance makes her an Aryan wet dream for we're-so-offended talk show hosts who invite her.

When liberals learn to master Gore Vidal's poise and diction, Ann Coulter will have some competition.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the point is, though, that she seems to be slowly losing that strength. This isn't the first tv appearance I've seen her on recently where she appears to be, quite frankly, losing her mind. Whether it's just stress (physical or mental), or something deeper (like what I said, realizing that if Bush's fanbase keeps shrinking, so does hers), I'm not really sure.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

lol grasshopper monitor is hueg

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

just how much longer is Ann Coulter going to get by on being a "hot chick" retelling Rush Limbaugh's ancient jokes in an XTREME VICE MAGAZINE Y2K style?

dunno. she's what, 44? born in dec '61? how much more mileage can she get out of that real estate? what do you think?

coupla years, maybe more if she tries to do the M.Dowd thing?

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Well if that's the defining factor, perhaps we should ask Susan Sarandon?

Though, yeah, she's gonna keep aging poorly.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

This isn't the first tv appearance I've seen her on recently where she appears to be, quite frankly, losing her mind.

I honestly don't think I've ever seen her any other way. She's been batshit from the word go, the only difference is that now her cause is less popular, which gives Matt Lauer the freedom to stand up to her. It's really sad all the way around.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I seriously don't really know. It seems like so much of her draw is the physical, or at least she gets a lot of mileage out of it(e.g. the book covers), I'm wondering at what point that gives out, or at least is overtaken by crazy-ass chicks like Malkin offering up an even more excreable viewpoint.

in a not-really-related question: T/S: Susan Sarandon vs Lesley Ann Warren

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, coulterpaws

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, saying crazy things and actually coming across as a crazy person are two totally different things. See 15 other posts in this recent revival of the thread alone...

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, saying crazy things and actually coming across as a crazy person are two totally different things.

If you assume she was serious all along, then I don't think there's a significant difference.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Lesley Ann Warren is better because she's Miss Scarlet.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

No, there pretty well is a difference. Going from being well-spoken to a hysterical version of our president is pretty obvious, whether or not you believe her to be serious or joking. If you really don't get what people are saying here then I'm not sure how else to explain it to you.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Well alright then. Condescension accomplished.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

No, no, at any time kenan feel free to address how your personal opinion of the words that came out of her mouth has anything to do with her public speaking demeanor! I insist.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you at any point going to address "she was once well spoken, now she is stuttering, stressed, and unable to complete sentences without starting to shriek and shake"? Or did you just wanna get yr 10c in about how Ann Coulter is a cunt?

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I don't think the reaction to her Today appearance is because her viewpoint is becoming unpopular all of a sudden. It's always been unpopular. She's got that Howard Stern thing, half her "fanbase" has been her sworn enemies - now she's boring and crazy and grasping, like when Stern got his legions of imitators and started having to bring strippers and midgets on the show every single day.

Alice Cooper was at least smart enough to know that when the kids in the front row at his shows had bigger pet pythons and more makeup on than he did, it was time to give it a rest.


TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The words coming out of her mouth have always made her look insane to me whether she's exhibiting physical tics or not. That's all I'm sayin.

Jeez, calm down. I'm not picking a fight over Ann Coulter on the internet.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Also frankly I wouldn't be surprised in the least if coulter turned out to be addicted to diet speed

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ ally explaining whats crazy to KENAN

and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost haha @ Alice Cooper

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, no one here needs to be calmed down. I just happen to think replying to someone's post, and then when they tell you "that's not what I meant," basically replying "I don't care what you meant" is pretty douchey. Why bother making a point of replying to anyone's post if you don't actually care about the discussion at hand? Just post, "I think Ann Coulter is a crazy cunt" and go from there.

Tom, I think it's a given that she's on shit like that!

I am wondering if there are really that many crazies who will continue to stand by her after the 9/11 comments?

xpost lol @ ethan, dude sorry

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

define "that many!"

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

This is not a party that I am invited to.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

grasping

exactly. I think that's been the schtick, to always dump so much effort into being "outrageous," that it becomes to require more and more thrashing about, like a rabid doberman staked in a front yard just straining to get at those delicious toddlers frollicking next door.

"grasping" (and "gasping") are really OTM terms here.

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Crazies who want to fuck her are sticking by her, based on comments sections to some of those pages posted upthread.

Dan (Yikes) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Bill Maher to thread.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Andrew Sullivan:

But the problem with Coulter is that she is a form of camp, is she not? The minute you take her seriously, you lose grip on her reality. She's not a social or political commentator. She's a drag queen impersonating a fascist. I don't even begin to believe she actually believes this stuff. It's post-modern performance-art. I think of Coulter in that sense as more at home on the pomo-left than the Christianist right (which is why the joke, ultimately, is on the Republicans who like her). Devoid of sincerity, detached from any value but performance, juggling rhetoric for its own sake, she is Stanley Fish's model student. Half the time, I tend to think that a Hannity or O'Reilly or Malkin actually believes their own rhetoric. With Coulter, I don't believe it for a second. And so her vileness cannot be taken seriously. She is worse than vile. She is just empty.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

that's kind of how I always viewed her, except she isn't funny, and if she is, nobody is getting the joke.

DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend who took the time to read a lot of Leo Strauss proto-neoconservative work told me a while back how it's hinted that religion is a necessity for the majority of the population but the governing/ruling body doesn't necessarily have to believe. Panacea for the masses, etc. When I heard about this Coulter book, that was the first thing I thought of.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I am wondering if there are really that many crazies who will continue to stand by her after the 9/11 comments?

the comments on the few blogs i skimmed (i had to stop pretty quickly because i honestly thought i was going to have a stroke) were totally supportive. people were saying things like "people die every day - why should those women get more sympathy than anyone else?" and "it's sickening that they're using the death of loved ones to further the liberal agenda" and "if they really cared about america, they wouldn't be trying to weaken it."

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

(and that's a really polite spin on it.)

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

O'Reilly was predictably appalled, in a mild sort of way.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend who took the time to read a lot of Leo Strauss proto-neoconservative work told me a while back how it's hinted that religion is a necessity for the majority of the population but the governing/ruling body doesn't necessarily have to believe.

The idea is older than that. It's probably as old as government itself.

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful."

-Seneca
4-65 AD

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider God fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the Gods on his side."

-Aristotle

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

and speaking of religious fronting:

who wants to read the first chapter of her latest book? see if you spot more of her cut & paste scribblin's!

kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 8 June 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, is she for real with that comment about American Christian destiny = jetskis, steak on the electric grill, and night skiing and that environmentalism is a repudiation of this? Even tongue in cheek?

She's pretty, yeah, if too old for me.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

You go, Rahm Emmanuel (D-Illinois)

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't read that chapter. It's making my head hurt. The random breast implants ref is the part where I was really like, ok, plz to learn one English and rhetoric class.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Rahm "Random House PR Rep" Emmanuel

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

an ad at Drudge: "Ann Coulter needs your help..."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://home.comcast.net/~bernievision/Coulter_Mouse_pad.jpg

"feel her up - then she will talk to you about welfare"

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, the last thing I read that was that incoherent and stupid was the first three pages of The Isis Papers.

Dan (Holy Shit) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

(The Coulter thing, not Mike's post!)

Dan (Whoops) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I get in if is in apple house to tomato !

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=30&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=apple+house

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

It's probably not even worth the effort of arguing but yeah, what I've read of that chapter is just absurd, setting up a broad strawman and attacking with no reasoning. Who exactly is she talking about? Andrea Dworkin and Hollywood sex symbols are on the same side? Worshipping Hollywood body image ideals is part of liberalism (even though liberal faith crazily proclaims that breast implants might be bad for you)? Shinto is one of the most popular religions amongst liberals?! There are no Christian environmentalists? And do conservatives really believe that we should (paraphrasing) "populate the earth until it's standing room only and then colonize Mars"? The metric system has been attempted many times but never really caught on? Is the Swedish standard of livingIt's impossible for birds to become extinct? . . . At least P. J. O'Rourke is sometimes funny and makes some kind of logical sense. (And how would AC deal with his love of promiscuity and soft drugs?)

I suspect I know the answer to this but in a country ruled by Republicans, that's the world's bastion of capitalism, with such a strong Christian influence, why are conservative writers so obsessed with what 'liberals' think?

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Roemer

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link


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