are you now, or have you ever been, A Librarian?

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I met some people who go there. They like it. Have fun!

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a librarian, but I'm a contractor with the Nat'l Library of Medicine and both my husband and boss are librarians, so I do like to pop on this thread when it is revived.

I went to UNC-CH for grad school (alas, not for an MLS) and loved both the school and living in Chapel Hill, so I would highly recommend that aspect. Most (actually, all) of my library time there was spent in the medical library--there must be some people who specialize in medical library stuff, yes?

Anyhow my husband does fine salary wise working in a law library (and he doesn't even have an MLS!), and my boss does way more than fine doing kind of managerial stuff for NLM, so salary prospects are not necessarily totally depressing but still best to minimize student debt as much as possible, or course (not that I actually followed my own advice. . .).

quincie, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Is there some other lame MA (nothing too technical) I could get to switch out of librarianship into a slightly more satisfying career?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 9 September 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I dropped out of a library school a decade ago to stay home and have kids. Now I'm going back to school to get a nursing degree at the same college (although it's not another Master's program, it's a certificate program - adding another major to keep the other two in my Bachelor's degree happy).

To answer the question of the thread: I did work in a public library while I was in high school as what was then called a "library page" - shelved books, kept them in order, checked them into library, cleaned shelves, and other random tasks as come up with by head librarian. I liked it, but library school itself was exhausting, the program required you to spend time at school in a different state at the time (and I had just gotten married), and I couldn't afford to pay for classes. I do know four librarians who all seem happy with their jobs, and I've met one person who just graduated from the program I left and is looking for a library job.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Saturday, 9 September 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

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timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 9 September 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

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timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 9 September 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

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timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 9 September 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That caption is more accurate than you know (he said, thinking of his current workplace).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 September 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been a librarian for about four months now, mainly working in primary school libraries. It is slightly tedius, but tranquil and oddly satisfying.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there some other lame MA (nothing too technical) I could get to switch out of librarianship into a slightly more satisfying career?

Is there anything that you like about your job that you could build on? For instance, if you like finance and management>>MBA. If you like databases and computers>>Systems Management. I'm not sure there is any MA that leads directly into a satisfying career.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Some schools have "Informatics" degrees, which I feel is the bastard techie cousin of Library Science. I went to the University at Buffalo for my MLS, and it mildly overlapped the with the Informatics department. Can I tell you what Informatics means? No, not really, but the folks in those classes took database architecture and fancy web design classes. However, due to its presumably swishy nature, it closed this year. I do believe some other schools still have their Informatics programs in existence (Michigan, perhaps?). It probably leads to a life as a Systems Librarian, and I cannot comment on the excitement of that career path, as I am a cataloger, and get my kicks from poopoo-ing the crappiness of recent LC catalog records.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

File under "nonfiction":
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Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

file under: "molly's autobiography"

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

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latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Librarians are an odd bunch. At library conferences, I usually get fed up with librarians by the 3rd day and want to go home, or pretend I'm not one of them.

We also have a penchant for booze. This sadly is not part of the librarian stereotype. Something needs to be done about this. We will drink you under the table, or atleast until we fall down from said table.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i've always had a fantay about being seduced by a sad, hot older librarian

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

How did you like Buffalo, Molly? Those informatics programs are terrifying. I'm surprised it closed though, it seems those are the programs that get everyone all excited.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Buffalo's program seemed pretty fine to me. It is what it is -- library school. I've heard horror stories from others' schools, and I guess UB didn't sound that bad after all. For the most part, I really enjoyed my professors. I did have the opportunity to take Advanced Cataloging which got prospective employers all riled up (in a good way) during interviews. That being said, Advanced Cataloging merely brushes upon the training you get at your job (I've been here a year and have only received my Jr. Cataloging wings). Also, I had a job lined up before I graduated (hello good fortune!), which is a major plus in my book. Unfortunately, in the sad state of library affairs, I still know a lot of people who graduated around the same time I did (about a year ago) who still don't have library jobs.

But I'm rambling!

Yeah, Informatics! What is it, exactly? It was linked to our Communications Dept. (as was the MLS program), but when Informatics bit the dust this semester, the MLS program was sent back to the School of Education, which makes sense to me.

Oh! And ALA just slapped UB on the wrist, actually, for closing its Informatics Department:

http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6363891.html

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

In my day, we didn't have infomatics. Though my MA is technically in Information Studies, which is what Drexel was calling their MLS at the time.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh God, ALA just gave my school, C@tholic, provisional accreditation. If I graduate and the school loses its accreditation and I can't get a job, I won't be a happy librarian, I won't be a librarian at all.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh no! Ehh, I wouldn't worry about it. Do you know how long provisional status lasts? I don't even remember how often ALA comes around and does its assesment of library school programs. I can only assume that these schools are getting themselves sorted out, as no one wants to deal with a bunch of angry, recently-graduated, unemployed librarians. It could get nasty.

This is what the ALA site says:

Conditional: Some entries have a notation of (Conditional) next to them. This indicates conditional accreditation — a status assigned to a program that must make changes to comply with the 1992 Standards for Accreditation of Master’s Programs in Library and Information Studies to enable accreditation beyond the date specified by the Committee on Accreditation (COA). Please note that these programs are fully accredited under the Standards.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Good lord, I just started library school a few weeks ago. Is the job market really that bad!?!! Have I made the worst decision of my life?! Are there any areas (e.g. cataloging) where there are actual jobs?

askance johnson (sdownes), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes! I just went through the craziness of applying for cataloging jobs about a year ago. There are jobs to be had. Do you know where you want to work (i.e. Public, Academic, etc.?)

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm...I don't really know...I guess I am leaning towards academic, though there is every chance that that could change....

askance johnson (sdownes), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Can you read any foreign languages? That's the ticket right there for academic cataloging jobs. You'll probably have this thrown at you over and over, but it is really about getting experience prior to getting a job. If you have the opportunity to take a digital library course, I'd highly recommend that, as catalogers who aren't quite ready to retire are getting bummed about all the prospective changes such as FAST and FRBR. Also, do as many cataloging practicums / internships as you can.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 14 September 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

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-- (688), Sunday, 17 September 2006 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

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-- (688), Sunday, 17 September 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I am still a librarian! Might get to do more interesting things like critical appraisal soon. The job market in the UK, hmmm, there's not a whole lot going.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 17 September 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

amn't now, never have been a librarian.
though twice on a blue moon have considered becoming one.

tiit (tiit), Sunday, 17 September 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone know anything about what the best public libaries to work for in major or mid-size cities are? I am interested in, right now, reference, acquisitions and youth services. In the DC area, the good library systems seem to be the large suburban library systems, but I want to work in a city--for example: Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Brooklyn, Queens, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Baltimore. Any idea which of these cities have a library system that would be good to work for (has adequate funding and support)? San Francisco seems to offer nicer salaries than most places...(The director from Brooklyn just came to DC so things could get better around here, maybe.)

Mary (Mary), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I would recommend avoiding working at Philadelphia's public library.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I could provide more detail if you want to discuss this by e-mail.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.newport-beach.ca.us/nbpl/index.htm

youn (youn), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Youn. That looks like a great library, but Newport Beach wasn't exactly what I had in mind (major or midsize city). The Santa Barbrara library was freaking gorgeous though.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, but the West Coast is different. You'll find that it matters less because no city is dense enough, except for San Francisco.

youn (youn), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure about that. While L.A. lacks density, I imagine it has a lot more to keep me amused than the O.C. Also, I'm not really a beach person, so would want lots of other options.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 18 September 2006 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

LA is probably gonna be an exciting place to be civically involved over the next generation, though perhaps later more than sooner. And cheaper living than SF?

Ohio seems conspicuously absent. And what about Seattle? Portland? Minneapolis? Madison? I don't know anything about libraries, but these seem like places that would keep them well-funded.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

LA always seems to be hiring, as does SF. I know the salaries in SF seem quite large, but I guess it's probably just a decent salary there. If I see job postings on the various listservs I'm on, should I send them your way?

molly d (mollyd), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

As your friendly neighborhood OC/LA library assistant -- the area does seem to be in an upturn, and a friend who I've referred this thread to is about to go back to library school around here, and would likely have more to say. (It's still not enough for me to consider going for an MLS myself, for a variety of personal reasons.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks M. and N. I'm not ready to begin searching in earnest yet--I graduate in May and then may do a paid internship at an academic library over the summer (UCLA?) but I am kind of up in the air as to where I want to live so was just wanting to check in and see if there are any sure-to-avoid inner-city libraries, or any nice-to-work-for urban libraries.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Seattle's library is way cool.

http://www.majordojo.com/photos/public_library/DSC_0558-photo.JPG

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 18 September 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Yea, Seattle and especially Portland seem to have progressive library systems, but then there's that whole living in the Pacific Northwest thing.

On the subject of the O.C. (and a new orchestra building): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/18/AR2006091801393.html

I thought this was a very non Post article, in that it was pretty good.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Queens is a good place to start, really. It's not without its frustrations, but they're usually hiring and you'll learn a lot in a really short time. Also, you'll really grow to resent the amount of press (and money) the NYPL gets in spite of failing to carry Queens' jock year in and year out. Plus, you know, New York City's a bit of alright.

the kinkade fire (willpie), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm glad to hear that. I've read that Queens is very into representing tons of languages and agressive about outreach to patrons who speak languages other English. Would I be able to work in one of the relatively close-in branches or will I be sent out to Maspeth?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.library.cmu.edu/Libraries/etc/game1/game1.swf

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

That is quite, quite insane.

treefell, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

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* What is the zip code to Panama City, Florida?
* What is the capital and state bird of New Mexico?
* Who wrote the patent on the Cotton Gin?

But we will be unable to answer questions like these:

* Please give me the complete history of the Roman Empire.
* Please give me a biography of Theodore Roosevelt.
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Filey Camp, Monday, 7 April 2008 10:03 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

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mookieproof, Thursday, 4 February 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

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that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Thursday, 4 February 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

It is true, this.

quincie, Thursday, 4 February 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link


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