New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

hey so will i still be able to use this $25 thing with stuff that isnt available on itunes music store?

apple basically just owns the entire recording industry now, huh

No. Stuff that is on the store that you haven't bought via iTunes, yes. Stuff that is not in iTunes, no.

11:54 am Library is scanned and matched.
11:55 am Any songs that remain, you can upload.

I'll have probably 200 gigs that will remain.

:-/

Is iCloud already up & running? The App Store icon on my iPhone is now showing all the Apps I've bought that aren't on my phone.

Don't know if it came across but Steve sounded really really ill.

Don't get the difference between iTunes match and just wifi syncing. I guess you don't have to be at home for Match.

I bet Steve creates iBody for himself soon

:-(

lion @ £30

guess I should just upgrade to an MBP now then

wifi synching moves the files physically. match doesnt.

How do you mean? with Match you don't need to upload the file, but all the other devices still have to download. Only difference is whether it's a Mac at home sending them the file or the Cloud,

its amusing taht if you work someplace where people are using itunes you can all steal each others music all day - i wonder if the icloud will work in a similar way

is lion upgrade only from snow leopard or will it upgrade 10.5?

Snow Leopard only.

Apple's got the formal hoohah up on their site:

http://www.apple.com/icloud/

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/

http://www.apple.com/macosx/

MacRumors and eight million other sites providing other summaries as well.

thanks ned.

ok, one more dumb question: will 10.6 install discs from a newer mbp work as upgrade for my 10.5 mbp...?

Match you don't need to upload the file, but all the other devices still have to download

no, I think match provides a stream from a centralized place, unless I totally missed something.

holy shit, there is no way i'm getting through all this today

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/

indicates that cloud music is available "now" in 10.3, but 10.3 isn't available yet for download, for me anyway.

here's a quote that's been a long time coming:

With iOS 5, you no longer need a computer to own an iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch.

If you’re looking for a specific email, you can now search in the body of messages.

the fuck?? i thought it already did that

(clearly not)

Yeah, Match definitely isn't streaming. What cloud music means is that US users can treat songs like apps -- you can redownload them on any device. (You used to not be able to do this). Match extends that to music you ripped (max 25k songs).

Otherwise you still have to sync all your devices. But you can do this using wifi now so it's not nearly as bad as before.

ICloud Music, I mean

I'm pretty positive you are wrong.

"Here’s how it works: iTunes determines which songs in your collection are available in the iTunes Store. Any music with a match is automatically added to your iCloud library for you to listen to anytime, on any device. "

there is no physical 'download' and keep with match. you just play it off the cloud. it's not taking up physical space on your device's hard drive.

oh wait, you are right, and I am wrong:

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/06/apple%E2%80%99s-music-icloud-is-nice-not-revolutionary/

"Unlike Amazon, Google, and most other music lockers, Apple iCloud actually downloads the files to your devices, rather than streaming them."

that is dumb.

but it's still kind of cool.

And I suppose like PlayStation Plus if you stop paying your subscription you lose all that music.

btw I'm guessing all those songs with US spelling that I corrected won't be matched.

"Unlike Amazon, Google, and most other music lockers, Apple iCloud actually downloads the files to your devices, rather than streaming them."

that is dumb.

It's dumb if it matches 12,500 songs and your iphone is 16gb long.

i.e. I can't see myself wanting to use this service ever

Yeah it's totally not clear what happens when you stop paying for Match. Because you actually have the files and they have no DRM, so you don't lose them. (I wonder what it does with the originals after upgrading them. Off to find an Appler)

Wifi sync is going to solve x95% of the problem imo

how does it match them? by title?

here's a quote that's been a long time coming:

/With iOS 5, you no longer need a computer to own an iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch./

doesn't it match them tomyour locker on the icloud and make them available at upgraded spec for download at any time for listening? non matched songs are uploaded instead so you can do the same. ppl wih shit ID3s are presumably going to be subject to weeks of uploading not minutes?

btw I notice the itunes match graphic displays the new Duran Duran album which got pulled from our itunes store like three months ago and was never put back. Do subscribers get to keep/redownload that music too?

http://images.apple.com/icloud/features/images/itunes_golden_ticket.jpg

^^^ GOLDEN_TICKET.jpg

what the fuck is/was GOLDEN TICKET

When photos are sent to your iOS device, they appear in a Photo Stream album that holds a rolling collection of your last 1000 photos.

Um I've got 1,000 photos of just whiteboard scans from work. This sounds annoying and unnecessary.

is lion upgrade only from snow leopard or will it upgrade 10.5?

― nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, June 6, 2011 9:40 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if it's anything like snow leopard it will be sold as an upgrade, but will be capable of doing a fresh install.

You download a lot of apps. And now you can see them in one convenient place: your purchase history on the App Store.

FUCKING FINALLY

Remember ibooks? It syncs your bookmarks now.

how does it match them? by title?

lala.com matched based on song length and metadata only which made it very easy to fool

i want the golden ticket whatever it is

itunes match will be great for those 6.5b tech-illiterate ipod touch owners who don't have album covers for anything.

well it isn't ideal but I will use it. I have a 500gb library of music at home, and then I have like, 100gb of music on my laptop which I take to work every day. I'd love to clear out most of that on my laptop and just be able to grab what I want from my home library while I'm at work. so fine by me, if not perfect.

it's still gonna be a hassle. we'll have to download stuff we want to listen to at work, and then eventually we'll have to delete stuff when we accumulate too much.

halfway through typing that i felt like an asshole

Server is $49!

I'd love to clear out most of that on my laptop and just be able to grab what I want from my home library while I'm at work.

Ah! Yeah, this is the big diff btwn match and wifi sync. Get you music anywhere.