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make a playlist that syncs to the cloud - I wonder if you can

Latham Green, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

apis is what i'm talking about

― caek, Monday, June 6, 2011 2:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

B-)

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

With iOS 5, you no longer need a computer to own an iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch.

― It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, June 6, 2011 4:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

srsly

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

- The LED flash on the iPhone 4 can be set to visually show you when you have a message or call

― It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:02 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iberry

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

I've wanted that feature since I had to ditch my first cell phone. I rarely have my ringer on. I used to like being able to walk in the room and look across the room and visually see that I have messages. Can they control the brightness? That flash is pretty strong.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i felt like notifications were the weakest part of the igame up til just now when apple stole the best aspects of both andriod and blackberrys approaches, swag

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

I want to hear about iCloud to google contact syncing.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

Oh fuck me, this was my idea for an iPhone app
Lots of people feeling like that here. They killed a lot of little apps too, like Instapaper (sorta), Fantastical, all the messaging apps, Camera+ etc etc.

stet, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

on the fence about instapaper. Marco (creator) seems to think/hope that his social sharing aspects of instapaper will be one thing that saves it, and that reading list will introduce more and more people to the concept, some of whom will want to upgrade to more robust features. I only use the most basic instapaper features, so maybe reading list will be fine for me. I assume if I'm on a PC using Firefox or whatever, I can log onto iCloud and access my reading list, like I can access instapaper from anywhere? I also assume other apps will pick up the link, like currently I'll be using reeder on my iPhone and hit an article I want to "read later" and depending on how I want to remember it, I'll either star it, or I'll send it to instapaper. I assume I'll be able to send it to reading list as well.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Marco is high. Think this will do to instapaper what iTunes did to Audion. But only if apps can also add to the list (I think they can) and if the last works offline (not sure about this).

stet, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

being a lil indie developer bro is tough, almost like you dont want yr app to get too popular

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://grab.by/cAVz

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

lol

caek, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Set to Silent --> at midnight

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 6:33 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

Yeah, dumbfounded that a night mode still doesn't exist. there are these things http://www.thesilentnight.com/ but you might as well stick the phone in a drawer instead

bnw, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

yeah better to suck because then yahoo will buy you xp

caek, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

They are doing unconscionable things to file > quit in lion btw.

stet, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha what are they doing?

caek, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

The thing I find annoying about the concept of "never start from scratch again!" is... what if you WANT to start from scratch?

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

If you leave an app and the system wants to, it will quit it. But the dot will stay in the doc and the icon will stay in the cmd-tab switcher. When you click on it then it will relaunch silently.

BUT if you actually choose file -> quit, the app will look like it has quit -- the dot disappears, it disappears from the switcher etc. Except ... It’s still running and doesn't quit. It might do later, if the system wants to.

Dan: yeh the persistence is scary -- they're going to persist apps across reboots and even restarts. Turning it on and off again is going to leave just as fucked as you were when you started.

stet, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

this is totally one of those "I thought I wanted this before you gave it to me" features

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

If you leave an app and the system wants to, it will quit it. But the dot will stay in the doc and the icon will stay in the cmd-tab switcher. When you click on it then it will relaunch silently.

BUT if you actually choose file -> quit, the app will look like it has quit -- the dot disappears, it disappears from the switcher etc. Except ... It’s still running and doesn't quit. It might do later, if the system wants to.

my head hurts

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

this might be some cart leading the horse miscalculation on apple's part, but
properly built applications should never need to be quit and restarted.
maybe this will force companies to make better applications?
I'm hoping it at least forces apple to do it with its own software.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

yeah kind of comes down to 'how well it works'

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

I think introducing a persistence feature that hangs on the assumption that applications never become corrupted is... well the nice way to put it is "optimistic"

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sure they will be a way to reset things

caek, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

like hold option when launching or whatever, like safe mode

caek, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

seeing as I just discovered TODAY how to quit apps on my iPhone, I am pretty certain it will be a PITA to do so

yes a good portion of that is user error, but then again maybe your device should have a real manual

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

You can force a quit an app using activity monitor like before, but there's no way to make it ignore its resume data (unless the app itself offers one). Clearing that will mean filesystem pokery.

stet, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

drag

caek, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

"we are apple, you will do it our way"

"we are apple"

Latham Green, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i tried to run an app that controlled time and and one that ran dos 3.0 and steve jobs personally vetoed them both.

caek, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

none of this new stuff thrills me

dayo, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

In contrast, this does:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/07/ios-5-works-just-fine-on-iphone-3gs/

(Already announced but this is some early confirmation from developers. That being the case I'm likely going to hold off on the presumed September iPhone upgrade in favor of what sounds like will be a full LTE version next year.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

I find it amusing that apple is so anti pr0n

Latham Green, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

They don't like pr0n apps, but porn works quite fine on all Apple devices, trust me.

mh, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

He clearly lives in that outfit, doesn't he:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtuz5OmOh_M

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

oh man he is so ill

caek, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

I don't dwell on Jobs' morbidity, but I do wonder if he's thinking at this point he wants to get as much done as quickly as possible before he's gone.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

haven't had a chance to read up much on this, but how resource hungry is lion looking to be?

i'm not liking the idea of all this extra whiz stuff if it compromises the speed of my machine. just got a new imac and i'm loving the fact it can take pretty much any video or audio stuff i throw at it.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

I trust you MH.

Steve Jobs seems more and more like a james bond villian everyday

Latham Green, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

Finally, the new accessibility options Apple has included in iOS 5 are nothing short of incredible. You can enable the LED flash to blink during alerts, and you can even create your own custom vibration patterns for specific contacts by tapping out patterns on the display

not that I actually feel the vibration, but this is cool.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

more bells and whistles

Latham Green, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

yes, all kinds of new tones. But this is a feature you don't hear.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Steve Jobs seems more and more like a james bond villian everyday

― Latham Green, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:59 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iDavros

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

are there any more details about autosaving? i love the idea that nobody ever has to "save" anything, ever, for any reason - but i'm also wondering how you make versions happen.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link

well you can flip back through the autosaves time machine style and presumably save as if you want to create a second document

ice cr?m, Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that makes sense.

one more q: this is so obvious it must have been asked, but i can't find an answer about what happens when your music won't fit on a device. my iphone doesn't have the space to store all my music. so how does the iCloud know what to put on it?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 June 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

I assume you tell it what to put on it, just like you do now with playlists.

I've been downloading stuff I bought using my phone that wasn't currently on it via the iTunes app; it all ends up connected to the "Purchased on this iPhone" playlist.

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

I'd hate to have to systematically sync my "purchased" playlist since it mostly contains drunkenly shazam-ed atrocities.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link


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