Ween. Are they great or what?

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i lump tmbg in with gbv and aywkubttod and other bands whose names are self-referential in a vaguely threatening/sinister manner, but who are actually easily defeatable

gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm the opposite. Ween has many, many songs that are not LAFF LAFF CLEVER CUTE SNEER SHITTY NASAL SINGING LAFF LAFF. Which, to my understanding, is the entire premise of TMBG. but admittedly, I haven't heard everything they done.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

You know, the "They" in They Might Be Giants actually DOESN'T refer to them. They say their name is like frightened people looking out there windows..."beware the out there...THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS"!

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, I seem to be one of the few female Ween fans. I've only known one personally, and I'm not sure that I've seen too many at shows. Girl Ween fans hollah at me?

Man, I fucking LOVE Ween! I was at a show years ago and it was ex-cel... Well, uh, excellent. I remember they did this jam thing while a woman was dancing. I think they just stretched for a good twenty minutes just to have a laugh at her expense. Great show.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

there = their, I can't believe I did that

FWIW I know shit tons of female Ween fans...not quite as rare as female PRIMUS fans.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i realized the gender gap re: primus when a frizzle fry tee that a bro of mine was wearing scared the shit out of a few girls.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

though everyone liked wynonna's big brown beaver

gear (gear), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

ween are better now at singing and playing guitar but worse at making records.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Sure, they copped Pink Floyd on Quebec, but it was still one of their most cohesive albums. Some great songs on there, too. Tried and True, Happy Colored Marbles, etc. I also think White Pepper is a bit underrated. If anything, I think they're getting better at making albums. Admittedly they've matured as a band, and maturity is probably the one description a lot of fans don't want applied to Ween.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

something about ween seems very masculine, not in a macho kind of way, but in a boy's club, teenage kind of way. not to say they're always so juvenile and stupid, but you know what i mean, right? i can see it not appealing as much to women as to men, but then again what do i know. i like fart jokes.

i also like primus. if you come buy a copy of les claypool's new album at my record store in bangor, and we sell more than anyone else in any of the stores participating in this little contest, les will come eat pizza and drink beer with us. no foolin'! i know you won't!

Emily B (Emily B), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Used to be my favorite band. Took a turn for the worse at the beginning of the decade.

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, my answer to Ned was more flippant than anything. I just think they're both annoying in a clever-clever way. they certainly don't sound very alike.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Over the years, Ween has penned a series of oddly sincere break-up songs. They're working with a much broader palette than TMBG, or most other bands for that matter.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Not that I want to drag out this comparison any further.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I listened to White Pepper again a couple of times recently, and if you can forget that you're listening to Ween (admittedly difficult) there's actually some pretty good songs on that record. You can enjoy the entire album without laughing once.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yes theres like 3 rockin awesome songs. but like godweensatan is a barrage of awesomeness just hitting you one glorious track after the other.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm a GodWeenSatan fan (and a The Pod fan - after that, it depends on what kind of mood I'm in), so you won't get an argument from me. (Okay, there are some tracks on GWS that I skip, but overall, yeah, it blows their later stuff away.)

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

J is kinda surprised that Matos hates Ween, actually.

J (Jay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.starkecontrasts.com/gallery/jimmy.jpg

gear (gear), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

he should love their early twisting of PRINCE-y aethstetics. oh well.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

J is kinda surprised that Matos hates Ween, actually.

-- J
Mark feels the same way. This does not compute.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Bananas and Blow" so real

Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 18 April 2008 06:38 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

"fluffy, my furry buddy, chewed his leg on the porch"

internet treehouse for gay nazi aspie fagz (jdchurchill), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:40 (ten years ago) link

I saw them on the tour for that country album, and ... okay, you know a regular Ween crowd? Which is already like a Noah's Ark of different varieties of drug-addled weirdos? Add to that country weirdos. Seriously the strangest crowd I have ever stood in.

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:47 (ten years ago) link

they're my favorite band. but la cucaracha was a huge letdown.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 18 June 2010 04:10 (ten years ago) link

no way. "woman and man" is their epic -- it's worth it just for that

kamerad, Friday, 18 June 2010 04:22 (ten years ago) link

La Cucaracha was a huge comeback.

dyaon't (sic), Friday, 18 June 2010 04:24 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

broke up.

found out via el-p's twitter

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:53 (eight years ago) link

no one cares

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:29 (eight years ago) link

*drops bong*

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:30 (eight years ago) link

I care, this is a huge bummer.

As a sidenote, has anyone heard that Aaron Freeman record of Rod McKuen covers? Wondered if that was worth checking out.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:32 (eight years ago) link

I mean, it's sad in the same way hearing that a couple you were friends with but haven't talked to in over a decade broke up is sad. Honestly, though, if this is what Aaron Freeman needs to stay clean and sober, I couldn't be happier.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:32 (eight years ago) link

DWH otm. Sounds like he just needs to make the split to keep himself in a place where he can stay clean.

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:41 (eight years ago) link

xp otm

I'd love for them to make more albums as strong as latter-day shit like La Cucaracha & Quebec, but they had a great run & I'm perfectly comfortable with the (frankly incredible) range of material they've released over the past 20+ years. Their live shows were legendary & I will definitely miss those, but I have to imagine that this is the kind of 'breakup' which can easily be dusted off when for the occasional one-off or small tour whenever they get the urge.

Carnage of PJ Soles (Pillbox), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:47 (eight years ago) link

I don't know about this. It just seemed like an off-the-cuff remark and the journalist totally ran with it.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:54 (eight years ago) link

Naw, there's plenty of "this is the end" type verbiage in the interview.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:55 (eight years ago) link

"or what"

some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:56 (eight years ago) link

I know, I know. I'm just in denial. (x-post)

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 23:00 (eight years ago) link

Can I just point out how many amazing headlines the author of that piece totally missed out on?

Aaron Freeman Cuts Ween Short
Ween: Aaron Freeman Pulls Out
Happy Trails To Aaron Freeman's Ween

Although the headline isn't bad, as is.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:07 (eight years ago) link

Against Me Isn't The Only Band With A Lead Singer Who's Changing Names And Getting Rid Of Ween

some dude, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:10 (eight years ago) link

Sounds like Gener might've pulled a Frank Black: Aaron Freeman and Mickey Melchiondo Differ On Ween's Continued Performance

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 01:48 (eight years ago) link

huge bummer.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 02:12 (eight years ago) link

Did Gene have a problem staying clean?

calstars, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 02:56 (eight years ago) link

Against Me Isn't The Only Band With A Lead Singer Who's Changing Names And Getting Rid Of Ween

amazing

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:11 (eight years ago) link

So nobody here heard Freeman's solo thing?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:12 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah i started listening to it..

it's all covers of the guy who wrote "Seasons in the sun" (forgot his name) so it's not stuff written by Aaron or anything.. it's nothing exciting IMO and doesn't sound like Ween at all

billstevejim, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:23 (eight years ago) link

Rod McKuen, whose name I know only from having shopped in small-town used book stores for books of poetry for over a decade, wherein he comprises 95 percent of the stock.

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:50 (eight years ago) link

Did Gene have a problem staying clean?

yeah, and touring seemed to often be a bad influence on him - Dean pulled a tour a few days in, five or six years ago, because it became immediately apparent that the road had inspired Gener to go from 0 to 70s rock star in nothing flat. He's talked about how his rehab program includes a sponsor to go on the solo tour and stay with him p much 24/7.

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:53 (eight years ago) link

great post

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 13 February 2020 05:40 (four months ago) link

yah perfect

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:25 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K65dRRa3GoM

this isn't on that comp but it's probably one of my favorite songs full stop.

oiocha, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:56 (four months ago) link

I think if I made a list of "Top 10 songs I can't believe weren't ever on a studio album", Ween would have like 6 of them

frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:59 (four months ago) link

True, without pulling from any b-sides they could easily fill an all-killer Shinola Vol 2. I don't get why it hasn't happened yet.

billstevejim, Friday, 14 February 2020 06:34 (four months ago) link

it's weird they turned into the grateful dead for people who know who Steve Albini is

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

Omg this is so accurate

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 February 2020 07:34 (four months ago) link

Did they have a jam band audience at all before Phish started playing Roses Are Free (1997)?

☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 14 February 2020 11:37 (four months ago) link

I don't think so, they were marketed as an "alternative" act when they arrived on the scene in the height of 90s alternative music marketing mania.

BrianB, Friday, 14 February 2020 12:45 (four months ago) link

I don't know, but I definitely knew some guys in college circa 1994-95 that listened to a lot of jam bands but also listened to a ton of Ween.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:16 (four months ago) link

In fact, now that I think about it, it was the guy that taped me my first batch of Dead tapes in college that also introduced me to Chocolate and Cheese and Pure Guava.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:19 (four months ago) link

True, without pulling from any b-sides they could easily fill an all-killer Shinola Vol 2. I don't get why it hasn't happened yet.

Dean said the process of making the first one was really exhausting - apparently a lot of the demos weren't really in releasable condition, so a lot had to be recorded fresh. Also they don't really like revisiting old songs. Still, a Shinola Vol. 2 would sell a ton of copies so yeah idk why they didn't make it

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:22 (four months ago) link

I'm not exhaustive in keeping up with Ween in message boards or anything, but a buddy sent me a 4-disc, 100-song rarities thing years ago that I understand to be pretty widely appreciated. It's still my most listened to Ween thing:

::VOLUME 1::
1.I Smoke Some Grass And Get Really Really High (B-side)
2.Mango Woman (B-side)
3.Puerto Rican Power pts.1&2 (B-side)
4.Now I'm Freaking Out (C&C outtake/B-side)
5.There's A Pig (B-side)
6.Vallejo (B-side)
7.Ode To Rene' (B-side)
8.Bakersfield
9.Skycruiser
10.Cruise Control
11.Sweet Texas Fire (Piss Up A Rope B-side)
12.Albino Sunburned Girl (Holland 1990-From Jug Is Quaid Tape)
13.Hippy Smell
14.I'm Fat
15.I'm Fat pt.2
16.Fat Albert
17.Little Peta
18.Oblongs (Little Peta diff.mix)
19.Little Peta (drum mix)
20.Koko (demo?)
21.Koko
22.Silent Night
23.Mr.Mocha (Pure Guave outtake version)
24.Big Dick Black
25.Spleen
26.Motown (with vocals)
27.Main Vein
28.S'amuse Comme Un Peut
29.Transitions
30.Grounded For Life (13 second T.V. version)

::VOLUME 2::
31.I Got No Darkside (12 GCG outtake)
32.So Long Jerry (12 GCG outtake)
33.Booze Me Up And Get Me High (Mollusk outtake)
34.I'll Be Your Johnny On The Spot (demo version)
35.Mr Richard Smoker (90 Second TV version-never used)
36.Cornbread Red
37.Cornbread Red (dub mix)
38.Who Dat?
39.Shot Heard 'Round The World (Schoolhouse Rocks)
40.Boys Club
41.I'll Miss You (Beautiful Girls Soundtrack)
42.Eye 2 The Sky (rejected song for 'Muppets In Space')
43.Love (Orgasmo Soundtrack)
44.Fancy Pants (Crank Yankers version)
45.Greg The Bunny (written for TV show-never used)
46.Homo Rainbow (demo)
47.Homo Rainbow (Chef Aid version)
48.Loop De Loop (Spongebob Squarepants episode)
49.I Can't Put My Finger On It (Conan O'Brien)
50.Freedom Of 76' (120 Minutes Performance-1995)
51.Golden Eel (Viva Variety-1997))
52.Buckingham Green (Nothing TV-Public Access Television show-1997)
53.She Wanted To Leave (Nothing TV-Public Access Television show-1997)
54.Mutitlated Lips (Oddville-1997)
55.Exactly Where I'm At (Letterman-2000)
56.Making Love In The Gravy (Electro Harmonix Micro Synth Demo)
57.Dual (Electro Harmonix Micro Synth Demo)

::VOLUME THREE::
58.Beacon Light (X-Files Soundtrack)
59.Stallion Pt.4 (C&C Outtake)
60.Did You See Me? (Mollusk Outtake)
61.I Still Love You (Done for Mickey and Aaron's Insurance Salesman)
62.Junky Boy (Pandy Fackler Tape)
63.No More Tears (Pandy Fackler Tape)
64.Numb To The Lung (Pandy Fackler Tape)
65.Nicole Pt.4 (Pandy Fackler Tape)
66.Purple Haze (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
67.The Wind Cries Mary (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
68.Bold As Love (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
69.Little Wing (Deaner Does Jimi Tape)
70.Kansas City Star
71.Love Will Conquer All
72.Chairman Of My Destiny
73.Unknown Title (demo)
74.Baboon Pt.2
75.Time To Yourself
76.Surfeited
77.Little Miss Mandee
78.Happy Colored Marbles (Carson Daly Show-2003)

::VOLUME FOUR::
79.Square Wave Jam (Electro Harmonix Micro Synth Demo)
80.Touch My Tooter (KCRW Radioshow-Morning Becomes Eclectic)
81.Buenos Tardes Amigo (demo)
82.Flutes Of The Chi (Mollusk Outtake/Reject version)
83.Ocean Man (demo version)
84.Mickey (Pigface-Deaner & Andrew)
85.Cold-Mickey pt.2 (Pigface-Deaner & Andrew)
86.Hello Johnny (White Pepper Demo)
87.I'll Wait (Mollusk Outtake/Demo)
86.She'll Just Get You (White Pepper Demo)
89.Fool To Cry (Rolling Stones Cover)
90.Argus (Not Quebec version-completely diff.song)
91.Even If You Don't (demo)
92.Where'd The Cheese Go? (Pizza Hut Commercial rejected song)
93.Where'd The Motherfucking Cheese Go At? (reworked Pizza Hut jingle)
94.Champagne Jam (Run Ronnie Run Soundtrack)
95.Transdermal Celebration (Quebec rehearsals)
96.Ooh Va La (Quebec rehearsals)
97.Tried And True (Quebec rehearsals)
98.Alcan Road (Quebec rehearsals)
99.Ooh Va La (Quebec outtake/B-side)
100.Mountains And Buffalos (Quebec outtake/B-side)

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:25 (four months ago) link

Still, a Shinola Vol. 2 would sell a ton of copies so yeah idk why they didn't make it

People stopped buying tons of copies of anything, and Aaron & Mickey stopped working together offstage. It’s been, what, fourteen years since they recorded anything?

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:45 (four months ago) link

well yeah it would be bizarre if they made it now. they should've done it in 2009.

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:46 (four months ago) link

I'm saying that we can now see that they had stopped working together by 2009

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:56 (four months ago) link

The Grateful Dead / ween connection was...dudes who smoked weed

calstars, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:19 (four months ago) link

^ Jon's friend's mix can be found on slsk fwiw

calstars, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:24 (four months ago) link

It's also on Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/WeenBSidesDemosRarities

ernestp, Saturday, 15 February 2020 00:08 (four months ago) link

That material and much more besides can be found in this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/ween/comments/5shi2h/ween_unreleased_anthology_35/

ringworm, Saturday, 15 February 2020 07:42 (four months ago) link

I don't know, but I definitely knew some guys in college circa 1994-95 that listened to a lot of jam bands but also listened to a ton of Ween.


The Grateful Dead / ween connection was...dudes who smoked weed


Hi there it’s me.

joygoat, Saturday, 15 February 2020 13:07 (four months ago) link

Just wanted to say that White Pepper is a genius pop album

PaulTMA, Sunday, 16 February 2020 16:20 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

i love white pepper maybe my fave

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:20 (three months ago) link

Cat stevens is on "Gener" terms with gene ween pic.twitter.com/hyLmq7Vxaj

— josh 'Letterman' (oldfriend99) (@oldfriend99) August 10, 2017

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:20 (three months ago) link

<3

donald failson (sic), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:35 (three months ago) link


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