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Yeah, they're playing a nice small show here in Costa Mesa May 7. Must get tickets...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 April 2003 00:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Steve, or anyone else who might know - do you have any idea what the "unknown" mp3 on base58 is? base58 matey seems to think it's Bola, but it doesn't really sound like them.

Tag (Tag), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm up for the review for the May show, Steve. Maybe I will see you there?

Sonny Tremaine (Sonny), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

sure thang Sonny

and yeh Tag i put that up, i got it from a friend who's into everything in the Warp vein - i recorded an MD round his house but we forgot to keep track of what was going on the disk - loads of Broadcast on there so i mistook it for one of their tunes for ages. i keep meaning to play it to this guy and hopefully he will remember what it is and i'll finally get around to that this week so the mystery will be solved.

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 6 April 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah, OK. Let me know when you find out, ta.

Tag (Tag), Sunday, 6 April 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

it was Blue States' 'Stereo 99' all along

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
haha sound is on slsk now, if people didn't already know. i'm four tracks into my first listen and i'm loving it so far...

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 29 May 2003 09:23 (twenty years ago) link

''Thing that just got left out about Italian Futurists: they were fascists, no?''

as far as I understand it: not really. they were in love with new technologies. But of course new technologies => could be a really kule sound making machine or new 'weapons of mass destruction' so it was fuzzy logic.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 May 2003 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

i wonder where this EP got in the charts...number 137?

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 29 May 2003 11:39 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone going to see them at ULU tomorrrow night? FAP maybe?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 29 May 2003 11:42 (twenty years ago) link

yes charlie, will be in the Bricklayers Arms (if its not too busy) around 7pm

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 29 May 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

nah, i don' want to see any of you bitches anywhere near me! ; - )

doom-e (Jam), Thursday, 29 May 2003 12:06 (twenty years ago) link

er i better point out thats the Bricklayers Arms just off Tottenham Court Road

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 29 May 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

Saw them in San Francisco a few weeks ago, first time. I like listening to them but there always seems to be something off about them. They really are kind of Pram for poseurs, and the new ep goes a long way toward pushing them toward Pram territory with more weird instrumentals and slightly atonal jazzy jammy bits. I don't know; it's alright but it's not Dark Island and something about them seems insincere (maybe it was the crowd though; they definitely pull the styley anglophile popscensters in SF, and I'm having a hard time divorcing the band experience from the show experience right now).

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 29 May 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

er i better point out thats the Bricklayers Arms just off Tottenham Court Road

I still don't know where that is in relation to ULU! (I'd already guessed you didn't mean the one in Hoxton...)

I'll be the fule in the...oh I dunno, who organises these things in advance? A ninetynine t-shirt, probably.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:48 (twenty years ago) link

forget Bricklayers, will now be in the Rising Sun on TCR from 6pm, i am in a red t-shirt that says 'supreme being' in swiss type on the front...hmmm, maybe i SHOULD go to the Brickies in Hoxton...

stevem (blueski), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

Also going.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link

(And to give a late post, the Costa Mesa show was indeed really good.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

That new EP was awful. They're putting sounds ahead of songs, which is a big mistake... just like that last Add N To X album.

blutroniq (blutroniq), Friday, 30 May 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

Saw them in Montreal a couple of weeks ago. Terrific, charming concert. Everyone was thrilled & terribly impressed.

slutsky (slutsky), Friday, 30 May 2003 17:42 (twenty years ago) link

doom-e, you got the speed but where is the war? where is the grind! marinetti ain't about no ethereal star trek themes! no empty space, no protections; BODY KINESIS ZTT!

"we want to re-enter life"

Chip Morningstar (bob), Friday, 30 May 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

well it was a good (occasionally GREAT) gig but i cam away gutted they didnt play 'Echo's Answer', 'Papercuts' or 'Message From Home' - and nothing from 'Work And Non Work'...sure they've got a new album to play out but still...'Hammer Without A Master' was particularly ace tonight tho

stevem (blueski), Friday, 30 May 2003 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

Really nice projections too.

slutsky (slutsky), Saturday, 31 May 2003 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

fucking great show!

but I had to leave straight after "Unchanging window" - what did I miss? Goddamn livingoutsidelondonness - anyone need a house-sitter between now and the end of july?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 31 May 2003 09:20 (twenty years ago) link

being more of a sound guy than a song guy myself, i wouldn't have expected that to be a problem, but it pretty much is. a lot of these tracks feel needlessly overbusy, an album of almost uninterrupted maximalism (save for the occasional outro/coda) ('maximalism' is relative i should add, we're not in max tundra tundra yet). which is not to say it's uninteresting or unlistenable, but a little disappointing when the strength of previous broadcast stuff was in how they negotiated the song/sound balance so astoundingly well and let you know when a sound was meant to be doing all the emotional work (there's nothing here as gorgeously empty as "echo's answer"). a fair amount of the (i need a value-neutral word for the songs/tracks...) music seems to lack a stong center, so everything gets thrown into the mix as compensation.

s'not with it's successes tho: i think it was marcello who chided boards of canada for lazily appropriating abstract loveless sound smear in place of other ideas please, but "valerie" is one of the few songs i've heard that's really learnt the (RIGHT!) lessons of "to here knows when" (the only exceptional mbv song/vacuum cleaner preset in my humble estimation). when that queasy keening dips into pure corrupt-hard-disk density.. sigh. and "the little bell" has that NASA-processing alien information sound in the background, that stuff always kills me - some impossibly urgent message fighting against the technology of its medium to be heard, a staged battle of signal vs noise (cf. "pen expers", "to here knows when" again). those impossibly prickly sounds at the end of "winter now" set against the blurry strings. the interrupted verses and the interrupting chorus of "man is not a bird".

i think it'll be a grower.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 1 June 2003 11:21 (twenty years ago) link

replace that second 'impossibly' with an emphatic adjective of your choosing

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 1 June 2003 12:11 (twenty years ago) link

"not without its successes". writing furiously so as to avoid doing other work is not without its problems.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 1 June 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
new @ milkfactory.co.uk:

review: BROADCAST - Haha Sound
http://www.themilkfactory.co.uk/reviews/broadcast_hahasound.htm

Broadcast interview
http://www.themilkfactory.co.uk/interviews/broadcastiw_1.htm

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

ah, no mention of jazz in the review. the two instrumentals on the ep had worried me.

keith (keithmcl), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

the new album's much poppier than the pendulum EP. that is to say, it has songs.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

the instrumentals on the EP seem a bit throwaway but the songs on it were great. the album is dominated by SONGS too which i suppose is the smart thing to do.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 08:34 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
so did anybody else pick this up today?

a couple listens in i feel like "pendulum" is what had been promised from the beginning and from here the only places to go are back to the radiophonic workshop or in circles round add n to x and middling twee pop. :(

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 02:15 (twenty years ago) link

Broadcast broadcasts:

Monday 18.08.03 on xfm (10.30 pm to 1 am, I think)

Tuesday 19.08.03 on John Peel/BBC radio 1 (10 pm to midnight)

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 14 August 2003 08:48 (twenty years ago) link

'Before We Begin' is the number one song in heaven. considering 'Come On Lets Go' was ignored by everyone but Peel listeners anyway, this is the second stab at palatable radio-friendly single - the closest they'll ever get to it anyway. but this song really should come out with a video and get played - i see no reason why not, or why it couldn't get in the charts. but why 'degrade' themselves with all that eh?

'Man Is Not A Bird' echoes 'Pendulum' rhythmically but the vocals are less urgent, more sullen and melancholic - just as haunting overall

'Minim', 'Lunch Hour Pops' and 'Hawk' are my other favourites...i'm not sure its quite as good as 'The Noise Made By People' but i don't know how to rationalise that - i think mitch may have been otm regarding they've pedestrianised things a little with the song structure and the starkness and sheer celebration of sonics inherent in previous work has been a little obscured here by sweet lyrics and dulcit unintrusive tones. i think i like Trish Keenan's voice because of that 'unintrusiveness' aspect - often it just seems like she's there observing and commentating on the song or its scenery rather than really pushing some kind of soul-baring introspection ala Beth Gibbons or whoever. but then if you think back to 'Papercuts', 'Message From Home' or even something like 'Living Room' which sounds more like Sean Lennon singing (may not have been Keenan but hard to tell!) it seems that there was more 'effort' in the singing but acceptance seems to have set in that there's a restricted range to her voice and the new songs have been written with that more in mind (considering the vastness of their forthcoming American tour perhaps this was a good idea). but i don't really know enough about singing to judge her like that. i'll keep listening and loving it anyway.

one thing tho - listen to Broadcast's remix of St Etienne's 'Angel' and perhaps compare Cracknell's vocals on that to Keenan's to see whether a voice more like Cracknell's would work better on other Broadcast material?

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 14 August 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

It IS a weird one, having always reallyreally liked but not quite loved The Noise Made By People I thought this one would nudge me into super-besotted orbit but I think I'm going to have to live with it for a bit before it becomes total life essential kind of thing.

Kerrrrrrrazily I HAVE come to love TNMBP over last couple of months and am currently playing it near-constantly, so I dunno. Broadcast may be the ultimate grower group ever ever, although they've had enough hugely-immediate moments (Come On Let's Go, The Book Lovers, etc etc) to suggest that this isn't the case. Haha Sound is fantastic though and I can only see myself getting more into it, rather than going off it.

Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 14 August 2003 10:36 (twenty years ago) link

I know that 'haha sound' is going to be one of my top 3 favourite albums of 2003. The tunes, the playing, Trish's voice, electronic weirdness - mmm.

Current personal best track = 'Valerie' - great tune, the breathy vocals, spooky lullaby quality. I hope they play more UK dates after the monster US tour, as from their ULU showing in May some of these songs sound even stronger live!

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 14 August 2003 11:23 (twenty years ago) link

I have listened to it four times in succession and am unable to stop. Already is has made the leap to essential-and-Necessary. I knew it was all going to turn out okay really.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 14 August 2003 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

I really like it, but the sound is so dense i have to listen to it a little bit at a time i find.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 August 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

I found that at first but now it zooms by, halfway through the songs seem to unravel a bit and become more fragmented and less fully-formed and suddenly the album has finished earlier than you expect. Which is always always always preferable to it dragging on longer than you'd hope, clearly, and leaves me hungrily returning for more.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 14 August 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

otm alex! i found that too, the album's a carousel but there's only two people on it, you and some kid. but the ride's over too quickly it seems, and then you realise the kids is the younger you. this is all complete nonsense but there you go (i am not drunk )...

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 14 August 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, too intense and rich on first listen to get very far into it but it's obviously a classy bit of work.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 06:53 (twenty years ago) link

twee, grower? hmmm...it is perfect right from the very first note. i suppose it is twee if you mean what i think you mean, pretty and melodic. why does every broadcast review have to have the word lullabye in it? is there a memo? also got the new lexaunculpt, they complement each other nicely.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 16 August 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

'Before We Begin' is pretty darn twee which bugs me cos I didn't seem to really care or notice that much until only now. good job its not scarf weather yet and won't be for some time

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 16 August 2003 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

If you're using twee as a metaphor for lovely, then Before We Begin is very much there.

Colour Me In, though, does actually sound like it's been written for the soundtrack of Playschool. Which is great.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 16 August 2003 18:09 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry for using 'lullaby' (& for spelling it incorrectly) - it seemed somehow appropriate for a song about going to bed/sleep.

They are a great band though: on their Peel Session last night they finished with a song ('60/40') that is better than several on the album & they didn't even include it on it! The band build & build, going into accelerating orbit whilst Trish stays cool & calm on the same level all the way through. Magic. If you missed it I am afraid you will have to listen all the way through to nearly the end of the programme to hear it.

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

The singer's voice is hopelessly amateur and so is this album.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

amateur like a fox!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

mary has been talking to gareth (sigh)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:32 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't! (Not about Broadcast anyway.)

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

i think Trish has as much as admitted in interviews that she's not the most powerful or versatile of vocalists - but still pretty sweet. but as far as the production and musicianship and songcraft go - amateurish?!?! absolute insanity...there IS a rougher and sketchier aspect to the production on 'haha sound' compared to the previous albums however - perhaps they were caught between two stools to an extent regarding this 'songs vs sounds' battle that's been touched on upthread. i'm listening to it loads but can't really develop proper criticisms except for aforementioned and retreading somewhat (Come On Let's Go > Before We Begin except the latter is now so just more relevant tho i think it has quite gorgeous timeless aspects)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

"Dead The Long Year" came on shuffle and I thought it was some mid-90s RZA track until it got a bit weird.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 30 June 2023 23:32 (nine months ago) link

still tripping out to “… investigate with cults of the radio age” over here

the late great, Saturday, 1 July 2023 00:51 (nine months ago) link

greatest band of the late 90's/00's

fpsa, Saturday, 1 July 2023 01:21 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

New album of demos coming out in early 2024 - been waiting so long for something like this, total holy grail release

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 28 September 2023 09:24 (six months ago) link

Since Trish's untimely passing in 2011, James has continued to remember her by sharing unreleased Broadcast demos each year on her birthday, September 28th.

In the spirit of those birthday demos Broadcast present “Spell Blanket - Collected Demos 2006-2009"

The collection comprises songs and sketches drawn from Trish's extensive archive of 4-track tapes and minidiscs. The recordings lay the groundwork for what would have been Broadcast’s fifth album, offering an intimate window into the creative process of Trish and James during this period post Tender buttons.

'Spell Blanket - Collected Demos 2006-2009' will be released via Warp Records in early 2024.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 28 September 2023 10:24 (six months ago) link

I’m both sad and thrilled

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 28 September 2023 10:51 (six months ago) link

Yes, that.

djh, Thursday, 28 September 2023 22:03 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

Was inspired to listen to The Noise Made By People in between listening to Gwenno’s solo albums which are somewhat similar on another thread and it’s sounding so great right now.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 December 2023 00:29 (four months ago) link

Some days it feels like Until Then is the last song ever written.

vmajestic, Sunday, 3 December 2023 04:01 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

hard same

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:45 (three weeks ago) link

Damn straight.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:56 (three weeks ago) link

C'mon don't put a 36 song release on streaming with ONE song available and we have to wait till May?

Cruel.

One sample song is beautiful of course and one can only wonder what could've been.

dan selzer, Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:10 (three weeks ago) link

Holy cow!

Maresn3st, Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:44 (three weeks ago) link

woah new song sounds great, all in on this

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:45 (three weeks ago) link

yeah new song great but "Tears In The Typing Pool" (demo) also amazing... seemingly effortless to have a melody and structure like that already fleshed out from the start.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:01 (three weeks ago) link

that new song is stunning, amazing how hypnotic and compelling and complete it sounds with just three (?) elements - it makes me think of how tender buttons was an unfinished recording that was actually perfect, similar (much sadder) vibes here

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Friday, 22 March 2024 20:18 (three weeks ago) link

it’s going to kill me, I expect. it must be very hard for James to put these out. I love the cover art as well.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 22 March 2024 21:23 (three weeks ago) link

Gee, it really is two discs. September (!) for the 2000-2006 volume lol. Wasn't sure how to interpret the cover images on a certain Context-Free Streaming Platform. Only got as far as digging that photocopier aesthetic.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 22 March 2024 21:46 (three weeks ago) link

Both are coming out in May, a couple of weeks apart. Unless you mean vinyl?

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Saturday, 23 March 2024 18:17 (three weeks ago) link

Never mind I didn’t read the small type properly. Dammit, seriously, September?!

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Saturday, 23 March 2024 18:18 (three weeks ago) link

Duh. Distant Call is coming out on Trish’s birthday — what a beautiful way to wrap up this tradition, and the whole story.

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Sunday, 24 March 2024 02:29 (three weeks ago) link

There's something very final (obviously) but probably healthy about "This will be the last music from Broadcast".

djh, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:23 (three weeks ago) link

had a look at the Spell Blanket track listing and nothing seemed to be obviously ‘Eyes Open’ or ‘Dulcimer Jam’… but i guess time will tell

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:54 (three weeks ago) link


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