White Rappers Using the N-word.

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in america anyone who grew up around the word and knows it inherently can use it. i (a white boy)can't say it, but i know white dudes who can. the strangest i heard was an arab and a black call each other theyr niggas

Peter $24, Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"It's a word that needs swift retiring,....in any/every context.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), August 8th, 2004.

I think the opposite. I think everyone should say it all the time, in any situation until it doesn't mean anything any more.

-- David Allen (Davidalle...), August 8th, 2004."

ugh
the word has specific meanings that are respected by cultures with integrity

Peter $23, Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

What about the cultures without integrity?

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

it's classic when mark e. smith says "where are all the obligatory niggers?" on the opening track of hex enduction hr.

russignol, Sunday, 8 August 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Pavement wimped out of saying that when the covered it. I wonder why they even fucking bothered.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I blame all of their missteps on the Marc Jacobs manpurse.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread should obv end about pavement and a bunch of indie names anyone who's said nigger's never heard of outside of that guy who directed kill bill.

i saw him on leno the other night. what a cool fucking dweeb. remember what he said "dead nigger storage"

peter $42, Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

we're talking about white rappers?

russignol, Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

kind of

peter @-3, Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Pavement wimped out of saying that when the covered it. I wonder why they even fucking bothered.

I think that criticism would be more pointed if it weren't for the fact that the only lyric that they kept from the original was "I never felt better in my life." They pretty much wrote a whole new song on the spot with the same chords and that refrain.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

also not rappers but:
Oblivians "Nigger Rich"
System of a Down "Shame on a Nigga" (yes, Serj says it)

AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I blame all of their missteps on the Marc Jacobs manpurse.

*befuddled, googles*

This is a manpurse?

http://images.eluxury.com/assets_server/product/10407680/p10407680_ph_hero.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 August 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

severe

what you think thirty three and the glock is for?! use the n word an pray y don't play. strict n word-bound

mkcaine, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

never ban?

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Necro has said it on a couple of tunes, altho obvs he is a crazy murderer who has "killed thousands of people" so nobody's going to complain.

Bodrick III, Monday, 14 April 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

System of a Down "Shame on a Nigga" (yes, Serj says it)
-- AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, August 8, 2004 5:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

imagining serj imitating odb is making me snicker in the library

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 April 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha "always"

J Lo got pulled up on calling Puffy her nigga by the media, and explained that Latins who live in the slums have always used the word the same way black people have

(to be honest, though 90% of this usage I hear in New York comes from Puerto Ricans or Dominicans, to the point where it occasionally gets weird: I overheard two guys complaining over the weekend about some guys they didn't like coming into the neighborhood from Harlem, and one of them was like "for real, nigga, we gotta do something about those ... umm ... we gotta do something about that")

nabisco, Monday, 14 April 2008 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^^puerto rican dude i know says this ALL THE TIME and way more than black people i know. tho part of that might also be less self-censoring in front of whites

deej, Monday, 14 April 2008 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

u know fat joe?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 April 2008 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

C: As a Puerto Rican rapper, have you ever been criticized for using the N Word?

Fat Joe: No absolutely not. Because blacks and Latinos anywhere you go in any hood, any ghetto, we’re right beside each other, and with each other all the time especially in New York City. They’ve been calling me “that nigga” my whole life. I go to Africa, and the Africans say “what’s up Fat Joe my nigga-ah?” So they don’t have a problem with it. It’s a term of endearment.

C: What about your response to people who don’t think like you or someone like Khaled who’s a Palestinian-American should be using the word?

Fat Joe: I guess Khaled is a sand-nigga. He’s a sand-nigga. (Laughs) Khaled that nigga, did you ask the 36 black rappers that are on his album with him if they have a problem with it?

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

sand-nigga

i think about the incomprehensibility of this phrase like once a week

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 April 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

j0 gettin his big word on

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

:D

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link

who was it that clowned me for saying gza was very self-aware & articulate about his creative process (vs. romantic "it just comes out of me" notion of the artist) by saying "HE GOT HIS BIG WORDS ON, SON!"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link


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