Coppola post-Apocalypse Now

he's dedicated himself to making inferior wine and spawning inferior filmmakers

yeah i guess wine is his thing

but he didn't have to make jack!

it was all the world gave to him!

everybody else was making Home Alone spinoff sequels

wow harvell the wine snob

i have no idea the quality of his wine actually. i'm drinking bottom shelf vodka in convenience store lemonade.

SORRY FRANCIS

i'm sure tucker is not bad (i've heard good things) but i never saw it, maybe b/c the title made it sound like a 7th grader's essay.

the wine is deece... nothing to get to excited about but better than your typical grocery store selection.

strongo never apologize, never look back

the cotton club is actually really good imo, awesome performances to be found and a better scene revolving around a watch than the one in pulp fiction.

I think he's said Jack was one of the movies he did to pay off One From The Heart, but he says that about a lot of things.

Diane Lane in the Cotton Club is pretty ace. She's in a bunch of these films now that I think about it.

yeah she's in the outsiders, along w/ melanie meyrink

When I was in college, I had a chance to meet Robert Redford, and someone was nice enough to tell him I was the only one there who had seen "Quiz Show."

"So, what did you think?" he asked.

"Did you see 'Tucker?'" I asked back.

"No."

"Oh. I thought it was kind of like 'Tucker.'"

Still not sure if I meant that as a compliment or diss, but I seem to recall Tucker being good, or at the very least featuring another good Jeff Bridges performance.

Hammett should be on the list, not that it's so great but at least it's an "interesting" failure

This period may be more underrated than Spielberg post-Private Ryan.

As far as I'm aware, Jack is the only out-and-out terrrrrrrrrrrrrible movie here.

rainmaker was enjoyable enough also i guess? probably in my top ten grisham adaptations

That might be the faintest praise with which one could damn a movie. Aside from maybe "probably in my top twenty Dean Koontz adaptations".

I'll vote for either One from the Heart or Tetro probably.

Both of which are better than The Godfather Part II ffs.

grisham > dean koontz

Dracula. I haven't seen four of them, including the two biggest spectacles. I hope Tiger Woods has a better post-prodigy career. I had to look up "ffs" to translate Eric H.'s x-post. I was hoping it stood for "But I realize I'm the only person on earth who believes this," but no luck.

Deliberate gadflying ffs. But I definitely think the first Godfather is much much much much much much more enjoyable than Part Boring.

i believed this about the Godfather II once in my life. then I figured out the DVD had to be in the player before hitting play.

grisham > dean koontz

this is some opinion to have

i cant in good conscience vote for any of the movies that ive seen from this list

grisham > dean koontz

I'll accept that (wouldn't know either way, aside from the abysmal Koontz book I tried to read once), but the point was more: what are your top ten Grisham adaptations, and how bad does a movie have to be to fall outside of that top ten?

xxp There are some parts that aren't boring too, obv. That's why Toshiba invented chapter forward buttons I guess.

I go back and forth--love them both. I was with Tetro for the first half, then I thought it went off the rails. And the younger brother's resemblance to Leonardo DiCaprio was a major distraction for me.

It was a major turn on for me.

Anyway, we both named Nashville as one of our three favourite films. We must not break the peace that we have made here today.

coppola's dracula >> herzog's nosferatu

only seen stills of rumble fish ... No good.

er that should have read "no good??"

i really liked tetro. his best since rumble fish i think

voting for dracula cuz it's enjoyably bad and i'm a horror geek, but i don't like any of the films on this list. remember thinking that the cotton club was decent, but don't have much interest in revisiting it to make sure. have been curious about the last couple, especially tetro.

didn't realise Rumble Fish was so hated, anyway it wins easy for me

Tucker (easily one of his three best films) followed by Peggy Sue followed by Godfather III

Loved Tetro, followed by Peggy Sue and Tucker.

and, yeah, The Rainmaker (and Altman's Gingerbread Man) are good 'uns.

I like Tetro quite a bit.

voted tucker, which almost seems to be a lost and forgotten film.

i prefer rumble fish to any of his other films (apocalypse possibly excepted).

Peggy Sue Got Married the only movie I straight-up love on this list, altho I should probably revisit the Outsiders.

voted Jack

lol

it's weird that he even bothers to make movies at all, it seems kind of obvious that he has no interest in the medium and hasn't for some time (unlike Scorcese)

his New York Stories entry is abominable

I guess I should see Tetro tho, I do enjoy Vincent Gallo hamming it up

http://www.renaud-bray.com/ImagesEditeurs/PG/594/594082-gf.jpg

rainmaker is pretty fun

dracula is a 'bad' movie but i cant get enough of the visuals and the atmosphere. some of those costumes are outta this world! and it has some really cool old-school special effects work if you're into that kind of thing (i am):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8NXzAEo5RM

this is kinda like choosing a kickball team from a herd of fat kids

I had a legitimate belly laugh at this.

I don't remember if I voted in this but if I did I'd have voted Tetro.

https://thefilmstage.com/francis-ford-coppolas-new-re-edit-restoration-btwixt-now-and-sunrise-arrives-in-february/

I love The Outsiders

Apocalypse Now broke him.

Saw Rumble Fish in a one-off Alamo screening a couple of months back -- never had seen it before, stagey as hell and yet it worked.

Anyone see the revamped Cotton Club?

I thought Rumble Fish would be thought of as a cult classic around these parts but obviously.. not.

Got through One from the Heart over a few nights. Wasn't sure I'd ever give it a go, but the Sam Wasson book made me curious. Such a weird, hollow film. Frederic Forrest is so ill-equipped to handle the lead role (and cursed with a Three Stooges haircut for most of the film). Felt embarrassed for H.D. Stanton (whose hair is worse) and Teri Garr too at different points (not her performance, more that she was dragged into this). I think Tom Waits' score is probably the worst thing about it. I've never seen La La Land: did it take some of its look from Coppola's film?

Ha, pretty brutal review from first line to last. Nastassja Kinski looks great in it though, right? iirc this film, like Bullitt, has one of those airport gate departure scenes that would now be impossible and thus inspire nostalgia.

xxp I actually saw that at the NYFF (having never seen the one that was ultimately released in theaters), and Coppola did explain how the Hines brothers bore the brunt of the cuts because of the racist bullshit the producers threw at him (i.e. the movie's too long and their characters only appealed to Black people). You can kind of tell what was cut because even though they found all those scenes, it feels like they didn't find the original camera negative and had to use inferior quality material to restore them. Not vastly inferior - it still looks like it came from 35mm film - but the picture quality definitely drops down during those scenes. Anyway, I have to say it's probably a massive improvement because the movie really lights up during those scenes - it's ridiculous that they cut them out because the rest feels so stiff in comparison, especially compared to the Hines brothers. Maurice (who just passed away) was at the screening, so at least he got to see it restored.

At least Heaven's Gate has the two great sequences, the graduation and the roller-skating scene. I know it's seen by some as a great film now, but even if you don't share that view, there are those two sequences. One from the Heart has nothing.

I agree that the music doesn’t work at all.

I really really really liked tetro a lot

My intro to the rather hot to Alden Ehrenreich.

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One From the Heart had a couple of screenings at the local Alamo going and out of curiosity I went to see one and what a weird curio of a film. It's pretty obvious that Garr and Julia just have way better chemistry than Garr does with Forrest, while Kinski as a literal magic pixie dream girl means the only way the film even vaguely works plotwise is to read it as 'an abusive kidnapping hypocritical oaf finally pushes someone who deserves better too far, said person finds someone a lot better after all and flies off with him, while the oaf retreats into an unearned fantasy that probably is a sign of a breakdown.' And my god, when Kazan and Stanton start clicking immediately and then we follow Forrest as he runs off I was almost all "Are you insane? Stick with those two! They're fucking hilarious together!" It almost felt like Coppola was trying to puree several Bogdanovich films into one thing.