remember viggo on fox news w/kucinich during election season?
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
man christoph walz, what a dumbass
no, Christoph Waltz, what a dumb original choice.
wd've played like a Martin Short SCTV sketch w/out laughs
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
so M. Butterfly is the only other time DC adapted a play?
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
s'okay. its real biopic-y, which i wasnt expecting and i think weakened the movie. the final shot is the same as the final shot in eastern promises. i liked viggo best in it
― maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
loved a history of violence, but am starting to have serious doubts about act III cronenberg
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
its real biopic-y,
I found this very much NOT so!
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
ppl got on Knightley's case, and she's uneven, but it's the toughest of the 3 principle parts. Viggo is a v funny gameplaying daddy Freud.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
Hope to see this within the week. I'd have to go all the way back to Dead Ringers for a film I loved, but I continue to hold out high expectations for every one. (Part of the problem, no doubt.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Liked this a lot. Knightley's role is indeed the trickiest but I love the way Cronenberg puts her most extreme bits of performance conspicuously in center frame, with her positioned closer to us than Fassbender, as if to say: "deal with it."
― Simon H., Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.torontostandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/freud-jung.jpg(l-r) Young Freud, Young Jung
― Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, knightley's role is really tough. i thought it was a really game, even brave performance, even if it didnt always work.
this is a really good interview that fleshes out some of the movies themes:
http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2011/11/an-interview-with-david-cronenberg.html
― maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 15 January 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone thought this thing was too short? I didn't feel the supposed warmth between the two men. Also: some of the cuts were inexplicable. Why did Hampton and Cronenberg make such a fuss about the trip to America only to film two scenes aboard ship? Why are we told the two men's friendship frayed when we're barely introduced to them?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
It was vintage 1904 Viennese warmth. Like frozen hot chocolate.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
for those who care about such things, Viggo wuz robbed of a nomination.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
they preferred the psychological depths of a Jonah Hill capturing the essence of someone who never existed
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
a lady sitting behind me yelped out 'WHAT???' when the last scene ended, so i think she was expecting more too. i think the thing is that the material doesnt feel particularly dramatized, i wanted something with more juice
the America thing... yeah when they were boarding the ship i was expecting/hoping they'd do more with that. i thought all the exchanges between freud and jung were very good. maybe one of the two main relationships should've been foregrounded more to really do justice to either of them
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 29 January 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
thought this was mostly excellent, though it does hit the fast forward button a bit too much. all of the leads were good, especially viggo, who fuckin' nailed it as freud.
― adolf jingle bells (latebloomer), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
vigo was great, though as a friend of mine said, it would have been pretty dope if they had casted kelsey grammer and david hyde pierce as freud and jung respectively
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― adolf jingle bells (latebloomer), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, January 15, 2012 2:20 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i thought this was happily un-biopic-y. agree re: fleshing some stuff out more but i get the sense there was an attempt to stay true to the source material (which was prob lacking in this capacity).
in a lot of ways it's a slight movie but i think it will stick with me, for the acting and for how earnest it was in attempting to actually talk about ideas and stuff.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 February 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
keira's performance was noticeably high-effort but i liked it--enjoyed how she seemed like she was teetering on the edge right up to the final scene.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 February 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Friday, February 10, 2012 2:33 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― adolf jingle bells (latebloomer), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
I guess "slight" carries a different meaning for me after reading about how enchanting The Artist is for 2 months, while ADM struggles to get seen.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
You're being defensive. It's the definition of a good minor movie.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
nah, I doubt I saw a dozen better last year.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
A minor movie can still make a year-end list; you've included lots of films to which you've given mild positive reviews over the years.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
this probably would've been my favorite movie when i was 19. it just came out too late...
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
is ADM really struggling to get seen?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
also, what does it have to do with 'the artist'
ADM is at the local multiplex now, which is better than I thought it would get. Awards not responding though.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
the artist is doing well because it's a friendly movie that had an ENORMOUS media push from the beginning. i mean, how many movie ads do you see on TV anymore, much less for a foreign film?
i get the feeling ADM has gotten minimal support from its distributor.
i have no idea what to expect from this one. i'm kind of dreading it.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
is the artist actually doing well? i heard something on npr that implied that it wasn't
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 February 2012 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
It isn't really, no.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
Considering the number of theatres its in and the marketing push it has gotten, that is.
well it's made more money than most foreign films make in the US, that's for sure.
they are certainly pushing it really hard, though. like nothing i've ever seen actually, in terms of films that seemed destined for "art houses."
btw in industry parlance the multiplexes that reserve a few screens for "offbeat" fare like ADM are called "smart houses" (get it?) -- basically your standard multiplex but in a bit city or a town with lots of people with college degrees.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, February 9, 2012 11:40 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
well they clearly wish it was a different movie from the one cronenberg made
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 10 February 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
i have no idea how the artist is being pushed, i guess i dont really care? it seems like such a silly movie for self-confessed cinephiles to get upset about. i mean its a very slight and not that great movie, but if people really want to get excited about a black-and-white, silent french film... it is kind of not the worst thing to happen?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 06:26 (twelve years ago) link
welcome back to ilx bro
― (_()_) (Lamp), Friday, 10 February 2012 06:29 (twelve years ago) link
*glances meaningfully at half-unpacked suitcase*
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 07:25 (twelve years ago) link
I think my colleague who put The Artist on his Ten Worst list wd disagree w/ you, bro.
Both ADM and The Artist are foreign films. One just had the belching power of H Weinstein behind it.
ADM's North American gross to date is $4.6 M; The Artist is $20.6, and I figure it might reach 45-50 with the Oscar win.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 12:19 (twelve years ago) link
slocki, i don't have an opinion on the artist as movie -- i haven't seen it. i was just saying that it's being marketed real aggressively, which doesn't reflect on the film one way or the other.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
lol putting the artist on a 10 worst list is exactly the kind of meta-snobby critical overreaction i'm talking about
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
seeing this on Tuesday
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ calling ADM a "foreign" film
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
its about foreigners
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
the artist from what i hear is basically kinda like good-natured semi-parody of silent films in a way, like the oss films are of spy thrillers? problem w/films that are "not bad" or "pretty good" getting huge critical acclaim is that then people feel the need to overcorrect and call them crimes against cinema or w/e, when if they'd just remained under the radar they wouldn't catch the vitriol w/o a doubt.
― omar little, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
iMdB (which goes by where the production companies are based):
Country: UK | Germany | Canada | Switzerland
xxp
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
The Artist isn't even entertaining at a basic level. I kept watching and thinking, "When's this thing gonna start?"
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
"from what I hear"
the Ten Worst guy genuinely loathed The Artist before all the awards hoopla took off. Once in awhile you might believe people mean what they say, CYNICS.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
financed entirely outside of the US = foreign for Hollywood's purposes
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link