"Talk was the center; we used to talk over everything, endlessly. But in those bad years a polite silence had descended on the marriage, darkened on my side with foreboding and on hers with unhappiness. She was increasingly depressed. Dark circles appeared under her eyes, she became immobile-the bed was her home, her fortress. And then she wanted to get away. "If you really loved me, you would want me to be happy," she said on the day in 1999 when she first said she wanted to leave, a sentence that no lover ever wants to hear. She was sitting in bed, miserable. I was pacing around the bedroom, in a sweat."
in other words: OH GOD PLEASE STOP TALKING.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
crash was one of the last movies i've been to where i lol'd in the theater and was shushed by those around me
― brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i'm still trying to figure out why he had a roof on his head.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
I was pacing around the bedroom, in a sweat
^^^ a dandy summation of his prose style.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
i know i saw mystic river but all i remember about it was sean penn crying
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the shingles thing was an extended metaphor for male pattern baldness
― brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
dude you don't remember Jack Nicholson making rat noises and Alec Baldwin telling awesome jokes?
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
i must've been getting popcorn
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
i was gonna say this is the most overwrought way of saying that someone broke up with you because you're a crashing bore that i've ever read but that probably isn't true
― brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
seriously though, denby, get a livejournal already
― brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
um
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
"The Internet is always spoken of as a medium of connection, but it is also a medium of isolation that surfs the user and breaks him into separate waves going nowhere. There was the movie hunger, and the lust hunger, and the early stirrings of the money hunger. But where was the core, reconciling and joining the many elements together? In the tomes above the computer? My book about the classics was devoted to Columbia's version of the "core curriculum." That's why the big boys were up there, in the shelves above the monitor. What would they have said? Plato, observing a man staring at shadows in a cave, would not have been in the least surprised. But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation, just as he was dismayed by the passivity of religious contemplation, and Nietzsche, I was sure, would have been disgusted by the absence of vigorous, joyful activity -fighting, dancing, revelry, lovemaking - even though Nietzsche, poor crazy bastard, was as terrified of women as any man who ever lived."
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
the internet surfs the user!! wow, man, mind...is...blown.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
a joke, dan
xpost
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
this is classic
http://wonkette.com/405905/the-wonkette-part-of-david-denbys-book-really-just-major-if-not-libelous-errors
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation
yes yes I imagine he would have been dismayed.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
"Nietzsche that dumb fucking idiot..."
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol I was 50/50 "I think he's kidding but that is delivered really really convincingly"
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
"hegel that sick motherfucker..."
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
also hegel might disapprove cause he was very religious but u kno historical context...
― Mordy, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
that wonkette article--jeez! Denby is steady trollin' Coulter style.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 23 June 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
the wonkette article about chelsea clinton is pretty shit though
― little mushroom person (abanana), Friday, 24 June 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, nobody comes off good in that arghicle
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
At the New Yorker, no one assails his listener like a jackhammer.
Unlike at, say, Club.
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
"The Internet is always spoken of as a medium of connection, but it is also a medium of isolation that surfs the user and breaks him into separate waves going nowhere. There was the movie hunger, and the lust hunger, and the early stirrings of the money hunger. But where was the core, reconciling and joining the many elements together? In the tomes above the computer? My book about the classics was devoted to Columbia's version of the "core curriculum." That's why the big boys were up there, in the shelves above the monitor. What would they have said? Plato, observing a man staring at shadows in a cave, would not have been in the least surprised. But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation, just as he was dismayed by the passivity of religious contemplation, and Nietzsche, I was sure, would have been disgusted by the absence of vigorous, joyful activity -fighting, dancing, revelry, lovemaking - even though Nietzsche, poor crazy bastard, was as terrified of women as any man who ever lived."― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:57 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkthe internet surfs the user!! wow, man, mind...is...blown.― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:58 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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Sounds like he's using that Soviet Russian Internet.
― some greenzo (onimo), Friday, 24 June 2011 07:32 (twelve years ago) link
huh? whats shit about the chelsea clinton post? jim even _explains_ it in the post on denby
― ☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
it requires an explanationit is snarky without a pointit isn't funny
― little mushroom person (abanana), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
look at david denby over here
― ☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link
it doesnt require an explanation if you are vaguely familiar with the very famous film "the miracle worker"its point (as jim explains) is that the original article is shocked that an accomplished, stanford-educated 28-year-old woman is being "allowed" to speak for her mother at campaign eventsit makes that point by humorously contrasting chelsea clinton with helen keller
― ☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link
Just out of curiosity, what/where is the "original article" that post was responding to?
― Don Rickles on the Dime (jaymc), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
sorry I misread jims post there is no one specific "original article"
― ☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
Rick Moody on that John Lurie profile:
http://therumpus.net/2011/06/swinging-modern-sounds-30-what-is-and-is-not-masculine/
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Saturday, 25 June 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
Also from DD this week:
"In regular movies, representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality than, say, books or paintings are."
I guess this one should be put on his editor but still...in movies, books are not as close to reality as representation is...?
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 26 June 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
hmm. i'm not sure your rearranging of the original sentence is accurate. the original makes sense to me.
― Z S, Monday, 27 June 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
no, hadrian's right... to get denby's meaning the sentence should read
"In regular movies, representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality than in, say, books or paintings."
or, preferably
"Representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality in regular movies, than in, say, books or paintings."
― ☂ (max), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
without the first comma tho
― ☂ (max), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
guys, its never gonna make sense
― ice cr?m, Monday, 27 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
oh wait, yeah, i see it now. it's like a magic eye poster, but way less satisfying!
― Z S, Monday, 27 June 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
because the satisfaction of seeing that 3D dolphin is fucking untouchable
Correction, June 28, 2011: The original article erroneously stated that 95% of Italian men had never operated a washing machine.
haha the fact too good to check
― caek, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link
the aleksander henon thing was very sad
xp max you should post that to reddit/mens rights.
― caek, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:45 (twelve years ago) link
Love the piece about Rays outfielder Sam Fuld.
― mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Friday, 1 July 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
Sam Fuiud
― goole+ (dayo), Friday, 1 July 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
Really like Joan Acocella's stuff on dance, the one from 2011/6/27 on Alexei Ratmansky is pretty good (haven't finished it yet):
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/06/27/110627fa_fact_acocella
― Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Saturday, 2 July 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
xp I'm uneasy about the Lurie profile but Moody's got some serious issues with the New Yorker and a weird idea that profile-writers should only be engaged in promoting their subjects' art and praising their wonderful personalities. I wonder which interviewer or New Yorker writer pissed off Moody years back.
clever and arch in that New Yorker way, clever, condescending, self-satisfied, off-handedly cruel, lazy, elitist, devoid of bona fide literary purpose
a sprinkling of the kinds of details beloved not of artists but of media workers
if you think like a tabloid writer, or like a hack, it’s perhaps possible to understand why this would seem like the meat of the story on John Lurie (ostensible subject of the profile); it’s the meat of the story if you are a meat-and-potatoes guy, a fetishist of parodistic ideas of the masculine, but it has nothing to do with who John Lurie is among family and friends.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Saturday, 2 July 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
haha i tried to read that post and i was just like 'this is how you write'
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 2 July 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
the nyer lurie article was awesome and salacious imho
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 2 July 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Moody describes it in one para as both "salacious and tawdry" and "exceedingly boring". How can it be both? I like his idea that only interviewing Lurie's friends and admirers and going on at length about his individual recordings would be some kind of thrillride.
Also, get off your fucking high horse.
It’s ugly and dull and perhaps even morally embarrassing, at least if you give a shit about art, music, literature, or the loftier aspirations of man and woman.
Makes me want to go and reread that notorious Dale Peck takedown of Moody, just for lols
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Saturday, 2 July 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i gave up early on when he started picking apart "everyone in 'downtown New York,' a.k.a., 'the known universe—basically,'"
― gr8080+ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link