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Why?

― bethune, Friday, 24 March 2006 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

There's so much more going on than you people seem to realize.

― bethune, Friday, 24 March 2006 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Friday, 24 March 2006 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm intrigued by how bethune almost never capitalizes "cheney-rove," even tho he capitalizes words like China and Milosevic.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 24 March 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes. Clearly coastal China is one big fucking Potemkin village, every last fake skyscraper.

― polio sanctuary, Friday, 24 March 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

No one said the buildings were artificial, rather that the so called "development" in the coastal zone is coming at the expense of a depopulating interior. And ultimately along with an abandonment if corect principles and thinking which will ultimately lead to chaos. Only a centrally-planned effort will be able to manage an economy as complex as china's. Although now with the general availability of inexpensive laptop computers, some of the planning functions can be pushed down to regional levels.

― bethune, Friday, 24 March 2006 03:38 (eighteen years ago) link

One day you will die.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 March 2006 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link

one bethune dying is a tragedy, a million is just a statistic.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 24 March 2006 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting how all normal rules of civilized conversation are abandoned as soon as your facile, uniformed opinions are exposed as the filth they are. Primary school pupils in the S.U. knew more about economics and geography than you lot. Sad for those of you who spend so much time around books and know so little about what lies between their covers and absolutely nothing about the outside world.

― bethune, Friday, 24 March 2006 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, cheer up tovarisch -- let's just drink some stoly and sing a few rounds of "the song of the happy tractor driver."

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:08 (eighteen years ago) link

YSI?

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

in soviet russia, THEY ysi YOU.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 24 March 2006 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/design/13.commie.jpg

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 24 March 2006 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/i_collect_it/Kool-aid-Commie.jpg

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 24 March 2006 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the way that Bethune is convinced that the solution to all of communism's failings is: cheap laptops. Clearly he/she has never worked in IT.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 24 March 2006 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/Solo_drink_Australia.jpg/150px-Solo_drink_Australia.jpg

― paradox, Friday, 24 March 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Only a centrally-planned effort will be able to manage an economy as complex as china's.

i love it!

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 24 March 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Did someone get hold of a bit of Enver Hoxha's DNA and clone him?

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Friday, 24 March 2006 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the way that Bethune is convinced that the solution to all of communism's failings is: cheap laptops.

Hardware is only one of the keys to successful implementation--software remains embargoed by cheney-rove. It's harder to reverse engineer. But this is beside to point. As clearly explained above China has abandoned orthodoxy. As a result, the people suffer.

― bethune, Friday, 24 March 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"clearly explained"

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

bethune how come you never want to regale me with stories of your grand times in the Soviet socialist paradise, rubbing shoulders with the comrades and apparatchiks you obviously so clearly identify with and love? Also looking forward to hearing about your wonderful years spent in the Chinese countryside.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

have you ever even talked to an actual factual person that lived under the communist regimes of China or Russia?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

As I've acknowledged, there were occasional rough patches--but nothing that compares to the cheney-rove nightmare we're all labouring under (sometimes via cheney-rove's satellite lapdog, the EU).

― bethune, Friday, 24 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

the cheney-rove nightmare we're all labouring under

I'd like to hear more about your struggle. Plz. be specific.

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Friday, 24 March 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~vbonnell/images/da_zdrav.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 24 March 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.xeni.net/images/boingboing/sars_thumb.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 24 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.liter.kz/files/Tovarish.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 24 March 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Turn on your TV tonight; the nightmare is well-documented

Maybe I shouldn't have said "turn ON your TV" but rather switch the channel from american idol or put down the PS2 controller.

― bethune, Friday, 24 March 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I said I'd like to know more about YOUR struggle. Your specific nightmare -- how you get from one day to the next in this vale of tears without giving up and opening a vein.

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Your specific nightmare -- how you get from one day to the next in this vale of tears without giving up and opening a vein.

he listens to lots of gang of four and rage against the machine records?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't forget the Che t-shirts. Great coping mechanism.

― phil d. (Phil D.), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

obviously he finds a great deal of solace in surveying the filth of our uninformed opinions on his inexpensive societ laptop.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i rage against rage against the machine records

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

bethune cheney-rove growth = self destructive but why the laptop fetish

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=solow+computer+paradox&meta=

― cerebos, Friday, 24 March 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

serious question to bethune what do you make of dag solstad?

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

What a bizarre question. But then, I was pished.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Sunday, 26 March 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...

about halfway through this now, kind of a harrowing read.
http://www.powells.com/review/2004_07_06.html

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretty sharp review.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

bethune is/was the best/worst troll ever.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

he never read your sinclair either, obv

http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/computers/clones/russian.htm

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Ignatieff: “What that comes down to is saying that had the radiant tomorrow actually been created, the loss of fifteen, twenty million people might have been justified?”

Hobsbawm: “Yes.”

somehow i'd missed this first time around. that is a truly disgusting quote. what a fucking moron.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 August 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

martin amis' "koba the dread" is a pretty annoying book, but it's semi-classic just for the part where he evicerates the "world of tomorrow" envisioned by lenin et al (though not by marx, perhaps) with one line: "ten seconds of sober thought will decisively inform you that such a place is not heaven but a species of hell; that such a place is alien to us; that such a place is non-human."

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Then on the page facing that quote is a picture of Nicky Wire looking off into the distance, I assume.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Equally vivid is his handling of the first portion of Orlov's book that was confirmed by documents — the story that Abram Slutsky, the head of the International Department of the NKVD, who officially had "died at his battle post" after suffering a heart attack, had in fact been poisoned in the office of the ruthless deputy head of the service, Mikhail Frinovsky.

!!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/1/1a/Slutsky_aa.jpg

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The noble lineage in his brow...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i have no idea why shakey mo linked to that review.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link

What Amis is saying in that quote looks like a re-wording of "shitting on people is human nature, innit?" I don't wholly disagree, but if that's the best argument you've got against Communism...

― Pier Paolo Semolina (noodle vague), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

not even, though; he's saying even if this utopia were possible, it would not be desirable.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 08:49 (seventeen years ago) link

GOD FORBID WE LIVE IN A WORLD WITHOUT ME BEING FAMOUS

― Pier Paolo Semolina (noodle vague), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

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