letz talk abt gucci mane

all this stuff is new except for the very final few tracks

sorta disappointed to see all the luger/southside productions but oh well

who is fat boy

he did wasted right? and a bunch of other gucci songs

that's FATBOI

unless it's the same dude

he didn't rap tho afaik

def same dude

smokin cali dro
with an irish ho
on a private plane
with waka flame

love the "camera ready" first verse

sick flow on the whole song

gucci mane i'm hard to kill
ain't nobody murkin me
niggas think they're hercules
have they ass in surgery
viagra flow cialis verses
ain't nobody hard as me
and he may have more money
but he'll never have more heart than me
it's big dog bull dog leap frog jump
got a sawed off pump
nigga this ain't what you want
and we goin all out all out for the yola
i owe it to the soda
i cut the music down just so i can hear the motor
i open up the sun roof just so you can smell the odor
play your cards right or they'll find you in dakota
suckers get trampled, snitches ran over
snitches ran over

*downloads*

dying @ holiday's mini-rant at the beginning of "psycho"

I can't imagine Gucci Mane hanging out with an "Irish ho"

darragh mane

whoa this is awesome
drumma's beat on 'translation' is amazing

how are we not talking about this tape

this is better than zone 6 or jewelry selection

catch you walkin ima drive up on the sidewalk

>>>>1st writings on the wall

yellow diamonds on but i'm no canary
put the work under the bed like the tooth fairy

there are more quotable lines in the first verse of "hurry" than on this entire tape

*downloading this now*

there are more quotable lines in the first verse of "hurry" than on this entire tape

― Jacques_Lamure, Friday, July 8, 2011 2:16 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

disagree

i was never a huge fan of the first writing on the wall

the best songs on that >>> the best songs on this, but as an overall tape this is prob better

still think his flow is too detached in a lot of places on this tho

i went back and listened to the first one today to make sure i wasn't romanticizing it or whatever...and i'm not/we aren't.

he was just clearly so much more excited by new language and flow then. something like "even when i'm sleepin money climbin creepin makin interest" would be !!!!! on this tape and nearly every song there has stuff like that

i dunno i dont really have a problem w/ any of this record. only track id really drop is 'hard on a bitch'

well i guess the part where he says 'leaning like the eiffel tower' is kinda lol

beats on this are >>>> beats on the 1st one

lyrically i dont notice too much slipping. maybe there are a few more filler lines. but he's still dexterous/ entertaining

he was just clearly so much more excited by new language and flow then. something like "even when i'm sleepin money climbin creepin makin interest" would be !!!!! on this tape and nearly every song there has stuff like that

― Jacques_Lamure, Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:21 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

the rapping from that era is def >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this -- but that tape is not that great

thats too many arrows. his rapping here is really not bad

"scotty' is pretty dope

dirty birds like roddy
white off in my audi

"tragedy" is prob the best luger/southside track he's ever done

this is prob >> "the return of mr zone 6" which baffles me a bit bcuz those are all hi fi drumma beats, but idk, i guess we have no idea when any of these songs were actually recorded

i think you're right that there's a lot less imaginary imagery here. it's a bit more workmanlike, i suppose. but musically, this is v v good

i agree w/ that last part

i think he should outright stop rapping on southside & lex luger beats -- they don't work for him at all

imaginary imagery, what am i saying

imaginative imagery

DISAGREE -- listen to "Major"

i mean, im tired of the luger sound in general, although i think 'lil friend' works really well & 'tragedy' works because of the hook

yeah those two are exceptions

he def rediscovered his ability to make good songs -- like, "camera ready" is pretty vintage -- that said, his rapping would've been better if this was from 16 months ago

haha those are the only two luger tracks. "Major" is one of two southside tracks. "psycho" i dont have a prob with really either

comparing tape to tape is kinda beside the point for me. i probably like the beats here better too, and i guess you could make an argument for the bulk of these being better constructed "songs" than some of the dashed off stuff on the first one.

but when has that ever been the draw? for me it was "what a sight to see/tattoos all over me/a walking work of art/i took a lot of ink," which is as vivid now as it was then. now it's "i'm insane in the brain like saddam hussein/on fire, propane, i'm a boiling flame"

yeah "major" is also good -- i prob shouldn't be lumping the two of them together, mostly i still wanna hear him over drumma/zay etc beats

i prrrrrretty much agree w/ jacques

yeah i agree that there's def less of a sense of exploration w/ his lyrics here than there was then, its a codification of stuff he was already doing. although i would emphasize that hes not biting himself, he's still adding variations to older lines