Eleanor Friedberger (of the Fiery Furnaces)

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Widow City is the album that did it for me. Didn't much like the last one, though.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

I honestly thought the second track was saying "You promised to take me to the end of the seventh grade"

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

awesome, thanks for the link mizzell. new single is great, love her style.

Bee OK, Friday, 8 July 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

this is a pretty crucial summer pop single?
i am not hearing any aaron neville though. i know it's lazy calling singers patti-smith-ers, but it does feel like, in being conversational more than melodic she is doing that thing well & taking it somewhere

Genre Fiction › Men's Adventure (schlump), Friday, 8 July 2011 09:15 (twelve years ago) link

Does she still sing like Ray Davies granddaughter

billstevejim, Saturday, 9 July 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

Ok, so there's an *urgency* to the way she sings every single line that reminds me of the way my 4-year-old tells me that it's VERY IMPORTANT that I look at the stick that he just picked up because it is a VERY IMPORTANT STICK. The music behind her isn't bad. It reminds me melodically, oddly, of Eno who's being discussed elsewhere and whose Desert Island Selection has been on my turntable lately...

She needs an Oblique Strategy Card that says, "If the melody line is essentially two notes, add five more notes."

dlp9001, Saturday, 9 July 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

I'm liking 'My Mistakes'. Especially love the dogtanian bits.

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

i'm all about this. i should really finally get around to listening to the fiery furnaces. loved gallowsbird's bark and blueberry boat but i just stopped checking them out. didn't know the brother had a solo album too.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

he's releasing eight albums this year

mizzell, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

agree the music is pretty good - but she really needs to find some sort of melody in those vocal lines - they all blend into one another.

nonightsweats, Thursday, 14 July 2011 07:57 (twelve years ago) link

Last Summer is getting great reviews almost everywhere. i did listen to it once but was more back round music, need to give it a proper listen.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 July 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link

yeah there aren't really any weak trax here. it kinda peaks in the middle with Scenes From Bensonhurst and Roosevelt Island but i love the whole thing, especially the sad little Wall-E vacuum noises during One-Month Marathon.

Cosmo Vitelli, Friday, 15 July 2011 05:17 (twelve years ago) link

"inn of the seventh ray" is a restaurant in topanga canyon.

http://innoftheseventhray.com/

(haven't heard this record yet except for "my mistakes," which i love.)

uncle joey who can recall his past relationship with alanis (get bent), Friday, 15 July 2011 06:55 (twelve years ago) link

he's releasing eight albums this year

― mizzell, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:12 (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

assumed this was a joke but no

just sayin, Friday, 15 July 2011 07:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, just released video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRUOoSKt6Kg

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 July 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

i sometimes feel this way, too, that her delivery is overly mannered, uptight, her diction too precise, her phrasing too sharp, the control exercised too evident. like the song is a cookie she's carefully biting her way through before watchful eyes, mindful of crumbs

Well put. I liked "Heaven" and "I Won't Fall Apart on Me Tonight." I'm more turned off by the rather monotonous music: that constant banging piano.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

I love this album. Also, nerdy of me to notice, but I think the sequencing is perfect. I'm also glad it isn't the endurance-test length of most Fiery Furnaces albums. "One Month Marathon" is my favorite but I really like the whole thing.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 22 July 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

"Roosevelt Island"!

jaymc, Friday, 22 July 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I like that tune but hate the clavinet.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man how can you

jaymc, Friday, 22 July 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

Sounds awkward. Love the swirly stuff going around the two-minute mark though.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

i sometimes feel this way, too, that her delivery is overly mannered, uptight, her diction too precise, her phrasing too sharp, the control exercised too evident.

I find this the most captivating thing about her -- it accounts for the majority of her character/personality -- so yeah, finding it offputting really would be a challenge. Nothing about it feels at all affected to me, though. (Even if it is mystifying how much it comes off "New York," instead of Illinois; is it just because she feels like a super-prim Patti Smith?)

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Friday, 22 July 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

I've started imagining that she speaks in this cadence in everyday life, sorta like Christopher Walken.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 22 July 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

finally heard this album via Spotify, it's great, doesn't sound like the Fiery Furnaces at all. she breaths a different life into her own songs. at around 45 minutes it's a perfect length.

Bee OK, Sunday, 24 July 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

I like when she sings "I'm gonna wrap the night (?) around your neck, slice off your head, daddy"

Like Hurting I heard "you promised to take me to the end of the 7th grade", and thought that was a good lyric at first.

boxall, Monday, 25 July 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

I've been trying in vain to place what album the cover reminds me of. A little bit of The River, but there's also something about the font across the top. Paging Alex in NYC...

http://0.tqn.com/d/classicrock/1/0/y/U/springsteen_river.jpg

An influential prophet from Denton, Texas (Dan Peterson), Monday, 25 July 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

Still really loving this album. I thought my days of caring about anything Fiery Furnaces were long gone.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

listening to this now.

honestly i kinda wanted to like the fiery furnaces but everything i heard drove me nuts.

anyway, this album is really knocking me out! such good songs but there's a certain subtle eccentricity about it.

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

the vocal phrasing on "roosevelt island" really reminds me of something

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

i interviewed her a few years ago (2005?) and asked her about her phrasing--i think she said her fave singers were bob dylan and joe strummer.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

the vocal phrasing on "roosevelt island" really reminds me of something

of how she really is...?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

I love this.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 30 July 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

the vocal phrasing on "roosevelt island" really reminds me of something

dan bejar?

This album is such a little gem.

buh, Sunday, 4 September 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

I love this album! I filmed one of her songs with my crummy old camera at the Rough Trade West shop a few weeks ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPjHXO4GWOI

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 28 October 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link

I liked her more than I expected to when I saw her opening for Wild Flag. A couple people express extreme hate for her over on that thread. Her retro sensibilities and phrasing can be an acquired taste

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

what about her boring songs and indie voice?

adam, Friday, 28 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'll bite. I can't help you with the "indie voice," whatever that is - but she's writing really interesting lyrics; she nails what Tom Waits called "putting a zip code" on her songs; they're packed full of really evocative details (lyrically and musically, I think). I mean, it seems pretty clear that the Fiery Furnaces really rub some people the wrong way, but Jesus - they/she can't be accused of doing anything really all that run of the mill.

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

I think it means her voice isn't supported by any major label money.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

I wanted to love this album because a friend whose opinions and mine coincide more often than not, but after seven or eight listens the melodies sounded undistinguished. Nothing really stood out.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 October 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

i haven't listened to this album too much, but when i do i like it quite a bit! moreso than the fiery furnaces stuff i've heard.

tylerw, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

tylerw otm, I've tried and tried with Fiery Furnaces but was never able to really understand why so many people adored them. This album, otoh, is wonderful. And I think Alfred is offtm wrt to "undistinguished melodies", there are great ones all over this thing!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

This is one of my favorite albums of the year.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 28 October 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

^

sean gramophone, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

yall seriously pretending not to know what i mean by indie voice?

adam, Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

love, love this album but it's no Fiery Furnaces

Bee OK, Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

yall seriously pretending not to know what i mean by indie voice?

In the most sinister place in my heart, of course I do. I'm not sure it works here because Friedberger projects so much damn warmth. However, her voice doesn't enliven these songs, most of which just sit there. The only one I can recall unprompted is "I Won't Fall Apart On You Tonight," one of the more generic ones.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 October 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

Inn Of The Seventh Ray is one of the best songs of this year.

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Saturday, 29 October 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link

yall seriously pretending not to know what i mean by indie voice?

Genuinely don't know. I mean, I assumed you meant a kind of "affectedly disaffected" thing or something, but that objectively doesn't apply to this album.

She Got the Shakes, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/news/49793/92c6f0ea.jpg

Personal Record is the second solo album released by Eleanor Friedberger, most notably for being vocalist in the band The Fiery Furnaces with her brother Matthew Friedberger. The album will be released on 4 June 2013 on the Merge Records record label.

1 I Don't Want to Bother You
2 When I Knew
3 I'll Never Be Happy Again
4 Stare at the Sun
5 Echo or Encore
6 My Own World
7 Tomorrow Tomorrow
8 You'll Never Know Me
9 I Am the Past
10 She's a Mirror
11 Other Boys
12 Singing Time

Bee OK, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 06:54 (eleven years ago) link

Does Merge say if she sings this one in an indie voice? J/k
I like the cover. She's got a new 7" out with track 3 on the A side and a Jimmie Dale Gilmore cover on the b-side

She Got the Shakes, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 08:07 (eleven years ago) link

They re-grouped, may still be on that tour.

nickn, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link

The article makes it seem as the age of streaming for free is the reason musicians are broke nowadays but I don’t really see her or the Fiery Furnaces even getting a chance in the pre-internet age.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, April 4, 2018 6:25 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dunno about FF but I think one of the things that has changed is that labels know they won't make money on physical releases, which means less money offered for advances, tour support, etc. I'd be willing to bet FF were doing better financially than Eleanor is now, despite the fact that her music is a lot more accessible

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link

i wanted to see that Luna show with her opening up here in Los Angeles. was so temped to go but i already saw Beck/Spoon and going to MGMT, a couple of Giants/Angel games and trying to get to the Arctic Monkeys show too. my budget is stretched for entertainment at the moment. oh yeah, of Montreal and Modest Mouse are also possibilities.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

Those of us here in L.A. should meet up at Amoeba, and wander around mumbling declaratory sentences to each other, or something...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link

haha, i'm in

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:23 (six years ago) link

morrisp, did you post under a different name before or are you brand new to ILM?

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link

I used to post here ages ago (early 2000s), and recently returned (God knows why or how long I’ll last).

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:27 (six years ago) link

lol, this is a good place most of the time. i came on around 2006 or so, i think my first post had to do with Moose. anyways, 12 years now? i'm fucking old school now.

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link

this place is so intimidating, it's hard to get new people.

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

i think it took me six months before my first post because of that. i used to post on the old CMJ board called Obner. glad i found a new home here on ILM way back when.

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link

Well, nice to meet you! The vibe is pretty much as I remember it... maybe a little less intense and friendlier (though more “Polls”... so many Polls!)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link

haha, i have done:

ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

New Order
Steely Dan
The Boo Radleys
Spoon
Bauhaus
Oasis (lol)
Talking Heads
Joy Division

gave up on and took over by others:

Blondie
Smashing Pumpkins (currently going as you can see)

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:54 (six years ago) link

Damn. Just checked when she's playing next in London and it was last night at the (tiny) Moth Club: a venue I love.

Sucks to be a shit fan.

Hello morrisp!

Alba, Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:32 (six years ago) link

Hahaha I think i ended up in this hellhole 10 years ago because my mp3blog was being roasted in here and I got curious. Posters were not nice then and they still are not but for better or worse it still is the best forum I’ve bumped into to discuss music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:44 (six years ago) link

Also site mods/analysts can doublecheck this fact but I’m fairly sure polls were abused 10 years ago between 2007/2008. I swear back then 7 out of 10 daily active threads were polls.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:59 (six years ago) link

I also did like 20 polls those years, sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 April 2018 06:00 (six years ago) link

For much of that time, she was in a relationship with Alex Kapranos from Franz Ferdinand
^^now that's a power couple!

Liked this detail:

“When I stand onstage I think I’m Neil Young. Like, ‘That’s how I do it’; that’s what’s going through my head. I mean he doesn’t play a Stratocaster like I play but it’s just something in the way that I hold myself; that’s what I’m emulating.”

niels, Thursday, 5 April 2018 06:16 (six years ago) link

she also dated Britt Daniel while a student at UT.

mizzell, Thursday, 5 April 2018 07:07 (six years ago) link

show was great! just her and a guitar, backing tracks on some songs

had a chance to talk to her after the show, she was very kind and we agreed that New View is v underrated

niels, Saturday, 7 April 2018 12:43 (six years ago) link

that sounds like a great night, wish i could have gone.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link

this place is so intimidating, it's hard to get new people.

― Bee OK, Wednesday, April 4, 2018 9:33 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm still intimidated outside of ILB.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 01:28 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

lovely solo session. her voice sounds great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TllEbRUq1Ls

mizzell, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

thx for posting this - the interview bits are fun, seems like she was in a good mood

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

(-- not to imply she's usually grouchy or something! just that she seems more engaged & open than artists tend to be in these performance + interview clips)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

Hmm, things get "interesting" when the interviewer asks her about NYC

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

"Are We Good?" another standout track

niels, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 07:22 (five years ago) link

i listen to this album all the time. i do love it. there is a comfort listening to her music that i get that i don't really get from a lot of other newer things today.

Bee OK, Thursday, 21 June 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link


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