letz talk abt gucci mane

also i thought a lot his raps & flows were inventive on that tape, as if one of the only things he had time to do was sit down & write raps

then again he had a lot of inventive raps and flows when he was smoking like a hundred blunts a day, so i don't subscribe to it much either

well i think you could also argue there's a cumulative effect -- there was a point where being a drug addict either didn't effect or even heightened the music he was making, but at some point the other shoe drops -- again it's more of a thesis than anything that can be proven, but then again i think 'mr zone 6' was the last front to back great thing he put out, & his music was really bad recently when he was doing lots of stupid shit & acting like a total fucked up drug addict

i wouldn't look at lil wayne's career post, say, 'da drought 3' and be like "oh well he used to be so good when he was taking drugs!" because clearly the guy is (or was, before jail) just a constant avalanche of downright awful drug addict music

i'm not sure that timeline really works out. drought 3 came when he was drinking lean like water and basically everything that came out of his mouth was kinda brilliant. then he made a concerted effort to kick the lean and we got his awful simile period and rap rock period.

i get the feeling that a sober lil wayne would say his lyrics on "drop the world" are better than anything on drought 3

"young buck's verse is dope btw"

Yes. I've been stanning way hard on Buck for the last 18 months or so, cant get enough, he's smashing everything hard atm.

Feeling MVP, Recently (50's cadence is nice) and Translation quite a bit. Good tape.

i think drug use is a little easier to connect to music -- lil wayne and eminem both at some point finally burned out the brain cells that made them great rappers. i just think the jail thing is kind of a non-starter, especially for someone like gucci who's been in and out several times over the years and also puts a minimum of real autobiographical detail into his music

did you guys ever figure out who did the "up my alley" beat? sorry I don't really follow this thread/gucci's career

I think it was Zaytoven

thanks.

btw I can't really stand lex luger

yeah the keys would suggest zay

Fwiw not sure if this is an explanation or an excuse but he mentions in a skit on this hes not writing down his raps any more

funny, neither are we

ZONG

"no pad no pencil" style

just put this on for the first time but can't get past "Tragedy" because I've rewound it three times

good shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BVHP514ZQ

LOL whoops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsmcSutYPU&feature=player_embedded

guys what else has Fat Boy done cause i like his shit on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWD3jBv5w6U

"1st day out" is in my top 5 gucci songs. zaytoven is a genius

grady fat boy did tons of gucci stuff, mostly. he used to go by 'fat boi'

he did 'wasted'

his stuff on here actually sounds more like southside on the track or prince (the rap producer obv) than it does standard fat boy though -- like, 'camera ready' sounds, to me, more like this kind of shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-8eFGritK4

this is an old fatboi beat, from the gucci list jordan and i did a few yrs back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKzf9u3kqEY

purple bud look like an orchid can't afford it watch me torch it

^^ hands down best verse ever imo

yeah man "wonderful" for all time

i kind of love that his best verse ever was on a fairly minor track overall

'tax free' !!!!

definitely a bit of a return to song-writing form on this

young buck going hard

lol the "hard on a bitch" video is literally porn

76k downloads from dat piff in one week

there's randomly a new video for 'hottest rapper' from movie 2 on wshh.

happy to revisit, though! "my cocaine counter prejudice"

yo congradulations j0rdan

ha, thx man

:D

i really slept on "supa cold" when it first dropped

I DIDN'T

get yr 'îron game up, rap http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

yo congradulations j0rdan

― sade lo (flopson), Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:57 PM (Yesterday)

???

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12261-brrrr-supa-cold/

yooooo!

so proud of this kid!

yeah good writeup j0rdy

woah congrats sarge!

aw, thanks guys

spreading the word of gucci mane is the first step in my takeover of the world