I HATE APPLE

i have to say that I still find the OSX finder annoying and clunky. will lion fix this or get rid of the finder entirely? I mean, I think windows xp explorer is better for viewing all the files in a directory. maybe no-one cares about this anymore.

otm, finder is worse than death imo

i feel like windows is more responsive when looking through a directory with a million files but just as clunky as anything.

there was an interesting booklet by Jef Raskin that made the argument that you don't need discrete files or filenames per se, but something closer to a tagging system, but are people really ready to give up files?

OS X has been inching away from files for a while. all it would take is for spotlight to be be able to index something other than "files" and we'd basically be there.

I never understand when people say they prefer windows eplorer, when I use windows it seems terrible. I guess it always defaults to that useless view where you just see little folders with no information. I know there's some sorting things that are more advanced then what OSX has, but I guess being a mac user since the beginning, Windows always just feels weird, even if it is better at times. I'm sure if I had to work w/ windows for more than a week doing serious stuff I'd get used to it and it'd feel normal.

A lot of the stuff that windows does I have via extensions, though I guess they're not called that any more. Like size-up for window management.

Anyway, I agree with the above. Apple should be pioneering us into new user-friendly and technologically appropriate interfaces, not making their applications look like a filo-fax so that old people can use them.

Though I don't think I'd ever want to give up folders. Tagging can be great. I was happy when I moved over the gmail because for years I'd sit there staring at an email asking myself..."do I file this under this folder or that folder" and with gmail labels, you just label it both ways. But it can get really sloppy where you don't remember to tag something or I change my mind and it becomes inconsistent. Or I read an email then find myself tagging it 3 times which gets old after a bit, though gmail makes it pretty quick with key commands.

given how pet peevy people are about naming their mp3s, if the entire rug was pulled under them by eliminating the idea of discrete mp3 files altogether, there'd be so much hemming and hawing it'd be a hemhawcalpyse.

lool.

dear apple. Why you now make new tabs for the same URL open next to current tab instead of all the way at the end? I liked it better before.

because firefox did it?

(there's an option in firefox: browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent )

I've always been an Apple fan/booster, but they're starting to lose me my having the iPad and its technology direct the OS development and whatnot. It's all getting a little too vertically integrated for my tastes - proprietary store selling proprietary apps/songs/movies to proprietary devices that don't do all people want them to do because Apple doesn't want them to do it. It's so totally consumer driver - as in, built for consumers to consumer, not to make consumers happy - that it makes me uncomfortable. Then again, I've been uncomfortable with Apple ever since they bricked those first generation iPhones that folks jail-broke. Something about a company with total control over every aspect of its entire system, with a finger on a switch that can turn it off or turn it around (but never turn it loose!) at the press of a button ...

I like that tabs open next to the current tab. I used to spend time moving tabs around & I don't need to as much now.

still, fuck this inverted scrolling...which I should probably just turn off.

what's the rationale behind it again?

I guess it's supposed to be like iOS, but because you're not moving the (image of the) doc itself, but just a trackpad, it doesn't feel like it's supposed to.

The thinking I heard was that they're expanding gestures into more and more things -- you can swipe across whole screens now, and horizontally swipe widgets, and drag contents around etc -- and while reversed made a bit of sense for vertically scrolling documents where you were actually moving the viewport, it breaks down pretty quickly when you try to expand it.

It is a bit weird to flick right and see the whole screen move the opposite direction, I guess.

hmm I think somebody would have to draw me a diaphragm

in other I HATE APPLE news I managed to get the battery of my MBP replaced out of warranty because it was bulging and inhibiting the use of the trackpad click. except that the 'genius' I talked to was really combative and tried to impress upon me that these batteries were designed to bulge after awhile, and we went back and forth about it for 10 min. only after I conceded that I wouldn't pay the charge did he access my account, saw that I had made a gazillion purchases and had never before requested a repair, and deign to replace my battery for free.

can't complain too much but others on mac boards w/ the same problem were talking about how it was a 5 minute, genius sees it and swaps kind of deal.

I think that there was a fucked up batch of MBP batteries! My friend has said that her boyfriend's did the same thing and she blamed the fact she had it plugged in too long, but I told her there's no way that those things should ever do that.

yeah if you do a 'bulging battery site:yourfavoritemacforum.com' you'll find a LOT of responses about it. people were getting their 4, 5 year old macbook batteries replaced for free no questions asked which is why I was mad at this tattooed world of warcraft nerd for giving me so much grief, and making it sound like he was doing me a service at the end.

Unfortunately, the Apple Store Genius Bar training can't erase all asshole personality symptoms. It's kind of silly, but when I had to go in for service a couple times, I made sure to do so on shifts where I guessed people would be more helpful

My friend with the battery problem lives in Las Vegas. Pretty sure the genius bar there is always "RIGHT AWAY SIR LET ME GET THAT FOR YOU." I know her sister had an almost brand-new macbook stop working while visiting and they swapped it in a couple hours, even though I think there might have been some liquid involved!

might have been some liquid involved

dog knocked over a glass of water near the laptop, not sure if any got in

i had the macbook battery problem too and they did replace it for free...once the manager had been sought, admittedly

it's pretty cool that new safari has built-in instapaper

It's not as good though, is it? The entire reason I use it is because I can sync to iPhone and iPad.

i haven't tried it yet so idk

lol it doesn't sync to your phone??

once icloud fully replaces mobileme your safari will be sync'd on all your devices including instasafari. Which doesn't help me because I use computers that are not mine, that I don't want to sync to mine, that aren't macs etc etc.

Doesn't help me either, since at least occasionally I use computers to look at things that I wouldn't want to pop up, say, when I launch Safari at work. Apple's whole "every time you launch the application you get to see the last thing you looked at" focus is maddening. Why would I want to launch Mail and see the last email I received? Wouldn't I rather see a list of emails? What if the last email I received was personal?

So you would have left that email sitting open in the middle of the screen before shutting down your computer instead of closing it? That makes about as much sense to me.

"quit" used to mean "I'm done with all this shit, next time I'll start again. Now it means "pause".

Makes sense for some apps; the restart-exactly-the-same is handy, but for apps like Preview or scratchpads like TextEdit it's a pain in the ass

charging people for an external disc drive is ok for the air but a bit of a piss-take for the mac mini

when was the last time you actually stuck a disc in anything?

the last time i ripped one of my many cds rather than pay apple £7.99 for something i've already bought

I had a slight conundrum the other day when I realized that it might be easier and faster to download a torrent of an album I had just bought on CD than it would be to extract the contents using an optical drive.

When it comes to finding a CD I have packed away in a box upstairs versus grabbing it quickly online in a "pirated" manner, I do the latter pretty often!

kinda o_0 at the idea no-one uses discs anymore

i think it's not far off. Same with floppies and the iMac. Attracted loads of comment at the time, floppiesnwere still common, but pretty soon irrelevant.

there's a clear difference between having to pull a couple of files off a floppy disc and having shelves of films on dvd

yeah, there is. My mac is my DVD player too. But I read somewhere that Apple says it's rare for people to use them as media centres, so they're not fussed. They killed Front Row, too. The MBAs don't have ir receivers for remotes, either.

Plus they want you to buy new stuff on the store, obv.

The last is what seems to me the clear motivation. It's their wedge against piracy & for their emerging profits as a media vendor.

tbh I won't lament losing built-in optical disks; external units are cheap & I rarely, if ever, use mine on the road.

They killed Front Row, too.

mercy killing tbf

i lament having to pay a good whack for something that was and still ought to be standard. well i say 'have', i don't have to pay and i won't, just seems a dumb way to piss off the end user (and in my case, lose a sale, and i'm sure i'm not alone)

i can't remember the last time i put a disk in a mac for something other than os installation

shelves of films on dvd is kind of like shelves of music on cd in the long term, right?

the remaining ~10 of my dvds are in boxes somewhere. it's quicker to download than find the disk.

sod the long term, i'm not buying everything again or wasting my time ripping films. it's not like dvd drives have suddenly become prohibitively expensive to stick in computers, nor has the mini been redesigned to be a nanometre thick or something

get a dvd player or an external drive?

well no i'm just not going to buy one, simple as that

no, they haven't suddenly gotten expensive (although they're not getting cheaper like all the other components in a mini), but people no use/care about them, and a 1cm thick dvd drive must be like 10% of the hardware cost in a mac mini. with that in mind they can probably live with the loss of sales from people who decide what computer to buy based on its ability to play dvds.

i mean no joke, i saw dvds for sale for 10 for £10 in the window of my local butcher in sheffield today.

don't really feel its unreasonable to be vexed that they want me to make up the difference (well, a considerable mark up if we're honest) for hobbling the machine

i mean they sell it as a media centre ffs, must be fun being the apple store goon that has to explain that no, it can't play dvds unless you shell out an extra £66

I still use my MacMini's drive in that I still get CDs, either via labels or through scrounges at Amoeba, Amazon etc. So whenever I do upgrade I'll probably just get an external...