US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

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why cant we have "your tweets on screen" for ever title

max, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

"@newtgingrich is trending in washington, dc"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

yeah cmon we can do better

iatee, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

let's just call off this thread

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

Imagine the uproar if Barack Obama, in the middle of this historic revenue crunch and "We're so broke the world is going to end tomorrow!" debt-ceiling hystgeria, decided to declare a second “one-time tax holiday” for, say, unwed single mothers, or recipients of public assistance? Middle America would be running through the streets firing shotguns out its truck window, waving chainsaws in mall lobbies, etc.

But see, Google and GE shouldn't pay taxes because they create jobs and blerrrugggh, whereas the recipients of public assistance are bringing the economy down without contributing to it and aaablleeruurrrreghg, blleeruughachacachhhh

sorry, i can't get into that mindset without throwing up on the keyboard, but i think that's supposed to be the counter-argument

Z S, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

i never get why the 'they create the jobs' argument/thoughtlet passes by without provoking some good old american reactionary anti-elitism. we're supposed to be all grateful and servile because the wealthy deign to 'let' us make more money for them?

j., Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

you don't understand, everybody in America thinks they personally are a "wealth creator"

No Broehner (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

What never fails to astound me is the moralistic aspect of the argument against (neo)keynesianism.

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

Well, this is true in a sense, but they are not creating it for themselves.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

They do create jobs. Jobs in China.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

at the moment I'm a chicken and asparagus creator.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

My added value comes in the form of all of those gloryholes I'm always drilling in public restrooms

Z S, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

But see, Google and GE shouldn't pay taxes because they create jobs and blerrrugggh

they sure are ... in India and China.

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KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

What never fails to astound me is the moralistic aspect of the argument against (neo)keynesianism.

that's easy to account for (wr2 people with little to no knowledge of economics). Keynesianism is kind of counter-intertuitive at least to sound (if superficial) financial practice for individuals in that if someone loses a job (or has to accept a paycut) one cuts expenses. of course, it takes some explaining to counter such a viewpoint: that government finance is not the same as household finance (someone should tell Obama this too while we're at it), that it's superficial b/c cutting discretionary spending to something that may pay off later on (education, job training, etc.) is counterproductive.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, the bottom line is that the GOP just doesn't want to raise taxes no matter what and GOP politicians will pull any argument outta their asses to justify not raising taxes ever.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^truth bomb

g++ (gbx), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

Great. Let's close this thread.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

agreed

youmadin therapy (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

Mods...?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link


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