best Fred Durst shoutout in Staind's "Outside"

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"Biloxi", mostly because it is the shortest thing he says, and the less Durst says, is always the better

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

Staind really were the nadir of rock post turn of the century, weren't they

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

they weren't, but this new single isn't good

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQJLU8tnsk

d-_-b

drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

lol the lyric video stretches out every word he sings a long time so it says "NOTTTTTT AGAINNNNN"

drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link

WHAT AN INTRICATE WEB YOU'RE WEAVINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link

This song fits perfectly into the theme for a facebook group Songs of Strength. We share stuff that helps us stay strong, overcome & inspires us. Check us out.

Can't say how excited I am about the new stuff. Aaron is one highly talented guy - puts on a nice easy listening acoustic set; rocks faces off in the next town. Rock on Country Boy, ROCK ON....y'all!
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drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

rock on y'all

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

lighters in a close race

69, Thursday, 21 July 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

I don't get why Staind get so much hate. They're not good but there was soooo much worse stuff on rock radio at their commercial peak.

absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

still love the lack of self awareness in calling an album 14 Shades Of Grey

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:55 (twelve years ago) link

Crut otm

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

I mean on paper "I'm feelin those lighters" is, as moley says, a no-brainer. But within the clip "Biloxi!" really shines. It's a hard vote, but "Biloxi" it is.

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

THIS IS THE REAL MUTHAFUCKIN DEAL Y'ALL

I think this is being underrated, cos I'm kind of touched that Fred thinks a bloke strumming a guitar and emo-mumbling is as real as I do.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

I think people hate on Staind hard for several reasons. First, "Staind." Second, there's the fact that he sold out his whole band by claiming he really only wanted to go country in a song that sounded exactly like a Staind song, only with a different producer who'd heard some country. Third, it's hard to conceive of a band more melodically deficient than Staind. They literally have one melodic mode in which they work, on every song, no matter what the chords are. It's the same Nirvana-changed-my-life move that really inspired a generation - I just spent a few minutes trying to figure out which mode it is that the Staind melody is in, I want to say Phrygian but I don't think that's right, but anyway it's just so cynically uninterested in its own music. A Stained song involves putting some chords together and then doing the same thing you did in the last song.

Also watch any of the videos somebody needs to give this guy 10,000 noogies.

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

going with "lighters" because it's kind of poignant being on the cusp of a new generation of concertgoing and all, and "i'm feeling those cellphones" just wouldn't be the same.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

also poignant as it is, listening to stained is like blowing your nose into a glass of apple juice and then drinking it not on a dare but for pleasure.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

see, my computer won't even let me write "staind" without having to go back and fix it.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

I can't sit still through this. Does anyone know at what time "lighters" comes up?

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

I mean on paper "I'm feelin those lighters" is, as moley says, a no-brainer. But within the clip "Biloxi!" really shines. It's a hard vote, but "Biloxi" it is.

^^^

Tim F, Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

At the beginning of this song, had he forgotten how to it went? There are some plain wrong notes in there played over and over until he hits the verse.

also lol @ "BILOXI!"

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

also lol @ Fred not being able to sing the chorus

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

dan i think you are asking a lot of staind dude's memory and skill set.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

according to one of the youtube commenters this was the first time the guy had ever played the song in public, it wasnt on any of their CDs, and he hadnt even written lyrics to it?

max, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

which would mean that yes fred is trying to sing along with a chorus that literally didnt have lyrics until that very moment

max, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

so Fred is a mind-reader? cool

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/blogs/popwrap/201002/images/08/SNL.jpg

they should have dressed like this

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

so it's the gil e jorge of nu-metal

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

DJP wardrobe correction so OTM

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

This video and fred ad libs provided many lols at the time, glad to see we weren't alone

I knew a guy or two fresh year of college sincerely into this song

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Staind also were annoying for rhyming the same vowel sounds over and over again. It's even in ths song titles! For example, 14 Shades of Grey has the following songs:

Price to Play
So Far Away
Yesterday
Fray (this is 4 of the first five tracks btw)
Blow Away

Good God!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

man, you know durst was 31 years old when 'nookie' came out? weird

― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:57 PM Bookmark

And here I am the same age, and what have I accomplished?

didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

He was actually 29.

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

and to think he was washed up before 40. he's like orson welles.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

31 when the video dropped rather

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

guys 31 is still a teenager basically

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

trust me on this one

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

sad no one bit on my revive of the "Behind Blue Eyes" thread

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

We were trying to ignore that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Second, there's the fact that he sold out his whole band by claiming he really only wanted to go country in a song that sounded exactly like a Staind song, only with a different producer who'd heard some country

to be fair, this happened late in his career

absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

by which I mean after everyone already decided Staind were the worst band ever

again, not defending Staind who are horrible, but there were so many bands I would call the worst band of their era before Staind (Creed, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down) - I think I'd even rather listen to "Outside" or "It's Been Awhile" than that unreleased Nirvana song they remastered to sound like Puddle of Mudd

absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'll take Creed over Staind for sure, but Staind over Nickelback & 3 Doors Down

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'm feeling you curtis. I like this better than any rock I've heard on the radio and I fucking HATED this when it was out. To me, this song is a watershed moment in blunt-edged commercial hard-rock. It's the source.

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

I'd take riding a rollercoaster without a lap bar over Nickleback

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

God, and my girlfriend at the time liked this too. She didn't understand why I would get so upset about it.

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

Staind to me were terrible because of just how droney their shit was. it was almost offensive in its blandness.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

N needs ti embrace the droney.

There is actually one (and only one) 3 Doors Down song I will ride for: "Not My Time"

in 77 everything is fine (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 21 July 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

we should all learn this and play it in a google+ hangout imo

markers, Friday, 22 July 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

I like droney stuff if it's like...doom metal, a la Cathedral....not warbly acoustic "rock"!

Neanderthal, Friday, 22 July 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

the half-assed strummed guitar and sub-grunge songwriting is definitely the worst thing about Staind

absolutely better display name (crüt), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

What the hell was all that money spent on

The Marmadook (latebloomer), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

I dunno. I've gone looking for an answer but it's uncited and I'm beginning to think it may just be wikipedia vandalism.

how's life, Friday, 16 June 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

Recorded October 2000 – February 2001
Studio NRG Studios, Los Angeles, CA, Longview Farm Studios, North Brookfield, MA, Southbeach Studios, Miami Beach, FL and Electric Lady Recording Studio, NYC, NY

So, let's say they worked five days a week from 10/1-2/28 with a two-week vacation somewhere in the middle. Not everybody working all the time, but studios billing time the whole time. 23 weeks at several pretty pricey studios, I don't know all of these but just the rooms alone absolute bare minimum 500/day and probably more than that -- certain Electric Lady's more than that in '06. knock 25 days off the room rental at that doubtless-wrong rate and you're still spending 45 grand on the room. now pay the producer, his two assistants, catering, drum & guitar techs on call, housing, flights, and you're still only up to about 300k max. double the price of the room and your closer, but if a major label was getting billed 1k/day in 2006 then there's some funny math going on, wherefore I'm saying they spent the money on just being cool

*you're closer I can't let that shit sta(i)nd

What the hell was all that money spent on

― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Friday, June 16, 2017 12:50 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

extra lighters

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 June 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

Line items: entertainment and snow

Eazy, Friday, 16 June 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

At least a quarter on beer, ching and stripclubs

MaresNest, Friday, 16 June 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

I just imagine they kept on buying more and more magic rocks (see Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil )

layda be cry (los blue jeans), Friday, 16 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

BUT MOST OF YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT
THAT YOUR DAUGHTERS ARE PORNO STARS
AND YOUR SONS SELL DEATH TO KIDS
YOU'RE SO LOST IN YOUR LITTLE WORLDS
YOUR LITTLE WORLDS YOU'LL NEVER FIX

how to diss a peer completely (unregistered), Monday, 5 February 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.chickensoup.com/book-story/30728/outside

had (crüt), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link

lmao excellent

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

i don't think i've ever read a confirmation that the verses were improvised before now, even though they obviously are

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

haha, that's a great story

niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link

love fred 4eva

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

i'm in biloxi right now

⅋ (crüt), Monday, 25 February 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link

like, in biloxi or just outside it, looking in?

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 25 February 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

lol

lispectah deck (unregistered), Monday, 25 February 2019 03:03 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt9rcD-j7wI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaV2ENqUymU

This guy is such a fucking baby.

☮, 🐸 (peace, man), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link


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