Context, pls? How could a prior controversy lead to a lower level of vetting?
― publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
I assume the logic is that the controversy was caused by the press chief having access to intelligence material, so if you withhold access you don't have to do the vetting.
― PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
Indeed. Still reads like a pathetic dig at New Labour to me though.
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
That explanation is bollocks, and totally digs on Campbell out of tribalism rather than any substantive comparison between his and Coulson's positions.
I am sure Coulson was paid the same or more than a directly vetted official, even if he was only cleared to 'top secret', so Number 10's point is what, exactly?
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if coulson ended up having access to top-level security documents despite his low clearance rating..
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
i.e.
Assistant Commissioner John Yates told MPs he had met Coulson to discuss, among other issues, counter-terrorism.
Yes, but you never know with the Met, he was probably discussing it with the cleaning lady as well
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
Who was also recommended by NI.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
...because right now, it's looking like Campbell was able to pass DV with flying colours, whereas Coulson abandoned the process and his job.
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
What, if anything, will this mean for Cameron's plans to privatize many public services?
― publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
Is this a distraction from that or will this sour the electorate on private corporations running public services?
― publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
It's one of those things where a majority of the public are opposed, but scar-ooooooo what we might think or want.
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
Cameron + Clegg aim to dismantle the public sector come what may, don't see anything standing in the way of that, and I've heard it argued that Clegg is even more fanatical about this than Cameron
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
Dismantle the public sector or privatize it, suzy? Are unions and 'entrenched bureaucracy' the problem in some neo-Thatcherite way or is this just a trojan horse way to kill public services altogether?
― publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Neo-Thatcherite, that sums up Clegg for sure
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/QDcxn.jpg
― James Mitchell, Friday, 22 July 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
o_O
― PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Friday, 22 July 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
dunno abt co durham but i can believe the other two letters are real
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
the letters don't matter, just imagine what's underneath that dress, phwooaarrrrh.
i mean, could they not just have a picture of a typewriter, or a hammer, or something australian for some context?
― whatever, Friday, 22 July 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
a koala in a bikini? phwoar?
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
anyway, bbc reporting notw hired someone to stalk tom watson back in 2009
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
(presumably not robert peston)
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8656131/Phone-hacking-inquiry-judge-attended-parties-at-home-of-Rupert-Murdochs-son-in-law.html
nice
― stet, Friday, 22 July 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
Tinker Tailor stuff indeed.
― graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
Lord Leveson, while chairman of the Sentencing Council that advises the Government on punishing criminals, met Mr Freud at a dinner in February last year in an Oxford University college.The pair discussed how to promote public confidence in the criminal justice system.
delicious
― zappi, Friday, 22 July 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
jesus christ just nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 July 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
Sunday Mirror phone-hacking claim revealed by Newsnight
― Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 23 July 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/23/news-international-liberal-democrats-bskyb
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Saturday, 23 July 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
it's not even a tiny surprise at this point but here we are - amy winehouse was hacked. http://charleslavery.org/2011/07/24/amy-winehouse-was-hacked/
― lex pretend, Sunday, 24 July 2011 09:28 (twelve years ago) link
Here's the thing: anyone who was a showbiz editor on an NI title and later rose to an editorship there or anywhere else is probably a 'beneficiary' of phone hacking, if not an outright practitioner. I've never met a showbiz ed who hasn't been a giant, flaming self-aggrandizing asshole.
Someone who used to work for ESM in the early '90s got into tabloid journalism via the other method - dealing Class A drugs to fellow hacks. There was an ESM bus trip to a club outside of London back in the day and this person managed to lose an entire baggie full of pills en route. Most of us couldn't stand this person and spent the rest of the trip indulging in quiet satisfaction as we watched the individual hunt high and low for the lost pills, trying to pretend nothing important had happened.
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 24 July 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link
So, uhhhh...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8657058/Tories-did-deal-with-Murdoch-over-BBC-licence-fee.html
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
i find it really hard to gauge the import of a lot of this stuff, since things that i would've thought would be explosive have so far been brushed off - but that should be huge, right?
― a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
It already feels like something that's a weird relic. "You bent over backwards for these guys that much?"
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
i just don't know where the 'line' is, in differentiating between the kind of dealmaking that obviously happened, but was perhaps implicit, & that obviously labour did in not opposing media takeovers, & happens a lot, etc, & the sort of thing that just seems like egregiously non-democratic influence-buying, as above.
― a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
xpost "I wonder what they have on you?"
― StanM, Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
The sad thing is that I feel like in the US there are stories unearthed about how some company basically asked a legislator to take some action or even handed him a pre-drafted bill to present all the time, and they rarely blow up into anything. Hopefully the timing of this plus the blatant anti-competitiveness of it will help it gain steam.
― didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean it fits p neatly into the narrative currently being, they were too cosy, they met a lot, they discussed deals maybe in breach of propriety laws &c
― a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
it's pretty difficult to prove influence, is the problem
― graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
Wait for it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interactive/2011/jul/19/rupert-murdoch-twitter-pie
― I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet A Man Grown (Leee), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
or 'why not to use twitter'
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
i am so amazed by the technology of that sort of thing that i lose any critical faculty. the way the bubbles gravitate towards the centre & that the bubbles represent people's writing. like i just don't care whether it's good or bad.
― radioactive computer (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
i see they weren't counting "wtf" though
― lex pretend, Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJwM1DnLu4
sort of wonder if it would be legal to 'buy' an mp and get them convene committees at which they randomly slander and abuse public figures
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure that ilx poster ismael klata is in fact one of the millibands, tbh? not narrowed it down to which yet obvs
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
they're jewish......
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
server glitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZtVm8wtyFI
― zvookster, Monday, 25 July 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
boy you take your throwaways pretty seriously nakh
― CH3C(O)N(CH3)2 (darraghmac), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/9HNiV.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9HNiV.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9HNiV.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9HNiV.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9HNiV.jpg
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
The facial expressions Mensch pulls in reaction to Morgan's patched-in voice are fantastic, I'd like to see what she'd have come up with if they'd been together in the studio.
― boxall, Monday, 25 July 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
The “guilt by association” is also painfully reminiscent of the McCarthy era in the United States. “Are you or have you ever been...” translated from accusations of Communism to “...employed by, associated with or regularly met, the Murdoch family or News International.”All of this is now in danger of diverting our attention from the two key elements which are surely at the very root of the challenge faced by Press, police and politicians. Namely, deep-seated corruption and totally unacceptable intrusion into privacy.
All of this is now in danger of diverting our attention from the two key elements which are surely at the very root of the challenge faced by Press, police and politicians. Namely, deep-seated corruption and totally unacceptable intrusion into privacy.
SHEFFIELD MP David Blunkett was on a contract worth £5,000 a day with News International as an advisor on a social responsibility project - which finished at the end of June when the News of the World phone hacking scandal intensified.The Labour politician, who represents Brightside and Hillsborough, was paid £25,000 for the six-month appointment but said he had only worked five days on the project, run by Rupert Murdoch’s company to help deprived youngsters.
The Labour politician, who represents Brightside and Hillsborough, was paid £25,000 for the six-month appointment but said he had only worked five days on the project, run by Rupert Murdoch’s company to help deprived youngsters.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 25 July 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link