The Irish

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

Specifically, I'd recommend Planxty's 2004 (or is it 2005? I can't remember) live album, which is brilliant and has Christy Moore singing on it. Any one of the first four Chieftains albums are also top class. Martin Hayes is also very popular and good, and there's a great, great singer called Iarla O Lionaird who sings unaccompanied Irish songs. His voice is beautiful, but it can get a little wearing after a while if you don't understand what he's singing about.

The Dubliners ain't half bad either.

luke kelly.

also, what's with lack of WB Yeats love upthread?

Ned's question inspired me to dig out that Planxty 2004 album. It is GRATE.

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

search: Planxty's "The Well Below The Valley", if only for the title track.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

Also "The Voyage", and his version of "Ride On".

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If it's the same one the Devil's Interval do then it's got incest and 6 cases of abortion/infanticide, body count is the hallmark of a good folk song.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous? He's certainly not as famous as he should be! (He's also from London, of course!)I don't know as much about Irish music as I should.

yes well, not every track! I'm out of my depth here, and I've forgotten my shovel.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous?

he is famous enough, but maybe not as famous as he deserves to be. He plays live a lot in Whelans, and every time I go to see him I kick myself for not going to see him every time he plays, as he is awesome.

In a piece of inspired supportage, the first time I saw him was when he was supporting Will Oldham; a whole new generation of fans was born.

He is awesome. Everything I've ever heard him do, from Sweeney's Men onwards, has been great, and he always seems like the most talented and yet least well known in whatever setup he's involved in.

I think he is all about the music rather than about the self-promotion.

I love his song about how Ronnie Drew is actually a culchie.

CINCINNATI -- A man was caught Tuesday morning inside a car with his pants down.

Police said Kim Leblanc broke into a parked car overnight on Central Parkway, and the owner found him asleep inside and called police.

Officers said Leblanc was not wearing any pants when they arrived.

Investigators said Leblanc told them he had done drugs and believed that a leprechaun had let him into the car.

Leblanc remains in police custody on a variety of charges.

top scientist claims irish less intelligent than other ethnicities,

blames leprechaun influence.

Thieving Irish. Here's something funny: I'm American, and my grandfather raised us to be conscious of our Irish heritage. We just find out our Irish side actually came from England ... and had lived there for centuries before coming to the US, rather than actually coming here from Ireland during the potato/weird root tasting beer/cable knit sweater famine.

So what's the deal with that - English, Irish, what? I'm sure most of the people who claim Irish heritage here are less of Irish heritage than suspected.

http://www.dk-ink.com/AngelsRemembered/files/leprechaun.gif

Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!

um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.

they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.

Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.

If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?

Dundee United also followed the Hibs model and were originally called Dundee Hibernian.

um, oh, look, just,

look, they aren't the 'irish' team in scotland. come on!

Not any more, no. People generally support Hibs if they're from east Edinburgh

My grandparents came over from Donegal, and couldn't stand all the Irish trappings all the people here embraced. Then again, who really gives a shit.

I wd have said they were more the "Catholic" team than the "Irish" team, but, y'know, I'm not going to argue about it.

FOR A CHANGE

Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap. Ahhh the keystone of our young love....

The fuck is wrong with my typing this morning? Love OF Guinness, and Budweiser.

My grandparents came over from Donegal, and couldn't stand all the Irish trappings all the people here embraced. Then again, who really gives a shit.

every post on ilx should have "Then again, who really gives a shit" as its coda.

Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap.

that's like the way English people drink lame-o lagers instead of real ale.

It's funny though... in general I am against patriotism and nationalism, but I feel that it is very important that I drink Guinness and not foreign drinks.

I feel that it's very important that I drink Guinness.
I also feel very strongly about not drinking horse-piss.
It's a win-win situation.

I like Guiness and Budweiser. Not because I'm third generation Irish but because they taste good (to me and I like to get fucked up.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/02/ireland

I am reading Roy Foster's LUCK & THE IRISH. Has anyone else read or even thought about it?

Haven't read it but it sounds interesting. Are you far enough into it to decide if it's worth reading or not?

Ned, I can't believe you don't love " St. Patrick's Day-related idiocies in America." My dog has an Irish name (Declan) so he has to put up with wearing a shamrock kerchief every St Patrick's Day. He loves the beer part of it at least ;-)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/418896575_92f41654dc_m.jpg
being tortured by wearing said kerchief at a st patrick's parade

Oh yes, it's definitely worth reading! Foster always is, whatever else you think of him.

At the moment I'm reading about Irish feminists' campaigns for contraceptives etc in the 1970s; to do what they did in that society I think they had to be very imaginative and courageous.

Did we all realise Conor Cruise O;Brien snuffed it, btw?

Yes.

What's the best thing to read by him then?

I've got Herod but it's one of these ludicrous situations where it just looks so imposing that I've bottled out of even opening it

"it went all the way up my gowl"

no sound at work :(

"why do you ride hippos?"

meme potential there.

Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music?

This was waaaaaay up there a while ago, but if any ilxor has the chance to glom onto a copy of the somewhat obscure CD by Alasdair Fraser (fiddle) and Natalie Haas (cello) titled Fire and Grace, they will not be disappointed.

It is musically impeccable. Virtuoso playing, emotionally charged and gracefully performed. Plus, you could dance to it. Top drawer. Hot shit. Strongly recommended.

Also, most of the catalog by the group Altan is exceptionally good.

that last line probably scans using offaly vowels does it

I’ll send you a voice note to confirm

*searches for "report harassment" button*

so not to be a buzzkill but what survives of english folklore in those areas of the country amounts to 'don't go in the bog, don't talk to anyone you meet in the bog, take nothing you find in the bog' and in that one specific area of my life I am a firm traditionalist https://t.co/4SXKTM8PnC

— Oliver Darkshire 🌈 (@deathbybadger) January 8, 2024

having accidentally stepped onto a bog I don't advise it (alarming)

They’re scary! I was watching that video and thinking of the time I was ten and stepped on what looked like solid ground, you honestly can’t tell what’s under the surface a lot of the time

is st brigids day getting bigger

is it getting /weirder/

or did i just move local+ its a big anniversary

can't say I've noticed any additional pageantry myself

local phenomenon so

two bands are separately closing in on a well here, honest to god the cops are escortinf them, its got potential to be that monthy python sketch where the womens guild re-enacts the batgle of bosworth etc

"In her honour, a perpetual fire was kept burning at Kildare for centuries"

they got bored with the perpetual fire after a few centuries

is st brigids day getting bigger

is it getting /weirder/

or did i just move local+ its a big anniversary

yes

this lot look like they might start nailing elves and pixies to them

Well you know my feelings about interfering with the little people

Bridget is the saint of abortion this is a REPEAL thing

as always i think you have hit the heart of it

brigid is a REMAINER

Ty

That Jack and Alice programme on Channel 4 is not good, but it was cute to see Domhnall Gleeson pretending to do chemistry while quietly singing "Tá Teidí ag Rith."

Limerick man has some thoughts on a 3 bed semi-detached for sale in Clontarf. pic.twitter.com/DrV78jgK9W

— Tull McAdoo (@TullMcAdoo) March 29, 2024

some interesting thoughts on the housing market

Deems what the fuck is this

get out and have a laugh pic.twitter.com/ItS6Jo5ypQ

— Subprime 🧱 (@sbprme) April 4, 2024

Caolán Hunt?

the fuck am i being held responsible for her that fella is clearly from malahide

Obsolutely sending it

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