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Yeah, alright. Where and when?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

FITE FITE FITE FITE!!!!

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

General attitude advice:
When I started Tolstoy's Anna Karenina, I was overwhelmed by the detail and especially by all of the names. I wondered how I would ever finish the book, and, more importantly, enjoy it. After a while, however, it became clear who the important characters were, and I started to get a sense of who they were as (fictional) people. Reading ILX is similar. At first, it is difficult to crack the codes, and to connect thoughts with thinkers. Don't give up, and try to ease into it. As stated above, it is better to lurk, just as it is better to try to enter into the world created by an author, before asking questions, both of ILX and a book.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Be hot. Not too hot, in an unattainable way; and certainly not Hollywood's disturbing concept of hot; but be hot in some curious and unfamiliar way. That would be appreciated.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Great advice, Piuma!

Sadly, I gave up on Anna Karenina a couple of years ago, Aaron. But maybe I have matured since then.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILE= Anna Karenina shockah!

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Be likable. And if you can't be likable, be nasty in an endearing way.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

My trick for reading A.K. was to be reading out in the woods in the middle of winter at those points when it was winter in the book. Be careful though, and don't catch a cold!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

My trick was to ruin my life with selfishness and distraction at exactly the moments when the characters in the book did, and now I feel like throwing myself under a train! Hurrah literature!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

For your first full month of ILM posting, write all of your responses as if they actually began "Well it's just my opinion and I can see how you might disagree but." Also remember that any given artist you like will survive just fine even if ILM doesn't generally like him or her: you don't have to martyr yourself in their defense or send the pillars tumbling behind you, because the world sails smoothly on regardless of what ILM thinks of it.

Also yes, read old threads: maybe you should put together a course packet of selected classics for common reference! (That is a joke.)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think we should actually collect old threads which display good posts and "bad" posts of all kinds. Perhaps a commentary could be written alongside, and used as a kind of "primer" or something.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you use IM, post your AIM name to one of the many "who's on AIM now?" threads. I did that when I was still fairly new (and I still don't post a lot), but I got a few IMs from people and got dragged into an ilxor chat straightaway, which was a good place to get more familiar with some of the regulars here.

Jen (nstop), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

did anyone say: use the search feature at the bottom of the page before you ask a a question. generally, if a topic hasn't been discussed in a year or two, it might be ok to start a new thread. on the other hand, if a topic has been discussed within the last 6 months or so, revive the thread instead of starting a new one.

Tracer: I used the same trick as well! I still think I am Levin.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think all the new advice is wonderful. i've been lurking forever now, but i've decided to come out of hiding just in time to read this thread...but
Then, right before you're about to post for the first time, hit the back button and lurk some more
perhaps i should rethink!
i think i'll add though, make sure you come in with a sense of humor and try not to take things to personally. very important.

stolenbus (stolenbus), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

avoid it like cigarettes and heroin

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILX is worse than nicotine or heroin. I am at work now. I would have to leave the desk to smoke or junk-up, drawing the negative attention of my co-workers. I can use ILX at any time!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Advice: if you find yourself becoming very angry at a post from someone you have never met in real life, do not post in response (or at all) until you realise just how mental that is.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

HAha Colin, that's the best advice possible!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Unless you're an asshole, or are incapable of communicating a coherent thought, there is room for you on ILx. Do not be scared. Walk into the light.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

LURK FIRST!!!

Apart from that... be flexible, be willing to learn, be willing to play, do not take everything said on this board at face value, and most of all, remember that we are discussing OPINIONS - it is OK to insult the opinion, it is not OK to insult the poster holding said opinion. Show other posters the respect you would wish to receive yourself.

kate, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

do not ask if [insert latest interweb pr0n craze here] is real or not...

remember how google-able the boards are

...and what everyone else said :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Be willing to gossip, dance, listen, throw drinks, pick up the tab, be careful, tickle the girls, tickle the boys, jump, punch, fight, reason, be glib, compare dinosaurs to deckchairs, petrol bomb the cold white sheet, leave it well alone, get addicted, get banned, be hearty, be swarthy, cuddle up to your favourite, have a blankey, have oral sex with relative strangers, wipe jam off your CDs, hold up petrol stations, laugh, talk, have a good time, make friends.

Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

I often read/post from my office which employs some kind of filtering software that filters out *objectionable* content. It's blocked random pages with nothing objectionable on them before, so clearly it's somewhat faulty. But what I'm getting to is...

Please, if you can, do not use obscene language in the subject line of your thread. Also, if your thread will contain questionable image files, please put an alert to that effect in the subject line. To be fair, most people do this.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cozen, That post reminded me of a Diet Coke commercial they show before movies. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

What Sean said. And be Polite (at least, I think I am and I think this is working)

isadora (isadora), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

I guess have fun, and/or be serious if you want.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are you in the US Sarah? I've never seen that ad. My advice was 'cribbed' from a quote Frank Kogan said a while ago about music writing:

""[I]ncludes (among several things) using music to engage the reader in a dance, using music to express myself, writing about music in order to rock, telling stories, telling jokes, using music to challenge people's modes of thought, using music to raise questions about social relations, using music to challenge people's ideas of what's important and unimportant, writing critically about events in the world (e.g. musical events), showing off my hairstyle, showing off my gang affiliations, writing coded comments to make people fall in love with me, creating literature, creating new social categories, etc. etc."

Which is how I view ilx, a little.

(Advice: don't trust jel.)

Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 20:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Coz, you said it better than I did.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 20:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

By the way, I disagree with the advice to "lurk first," in that the people who should lurk first won't, whereas the people who don't need to lurk much will lurk way too long out of shyness.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, by the way, this is the first time I've been compared to a Diet Coke commercial. This is a good thing to be so compared, I think?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

And don't begin posts with "By the way." It identifies you immediately as having deep emotional problems.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

And don't do five posts in a row.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I *COMPLETELY* agree Frank (with the post about lurking). I think if someone stumbles across a board and has something to throw into the pot they should just do so. There are no specific skills to be honed and lessons to be learned that lurking can facilitate. If you're not a militantly objectionable person people should be glad to have someone new on board.

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, I don't see why you need to lurk for a while. Unless you want to start threads and dominate conversations maybe, to get some idea of the tone and how you can get the kind of response you might want, avoid getting off on the wrong foot, that kind of thing.

I'm kind of against this whole thing, 'by the way', as I think it's rather too normative for my tastes. That's not to say anything about what is being said, I just thing we're getting to prescriptive.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

wah! Cozen made me cry :(

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

''By the way, I disagree with the advice to "lurk first," in that the people who should lurk first won't, whereas the people who don't need to lurk much will lurk way too long out of shyness.''

OK. I think I was relating to my experience. This is my first discussion board, the first that i found, so i lurked to find out abt it. i eventually got comfortable and posted very slowly.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 22:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

i never just lurked here, i threw myself in straight away.

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's ok to drink your own pee

duane (hellbaby), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 22:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not if you have kidney dysfunction.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

now you tell me!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Post a link to the introductions thread so people can get a feel for what the regulars are into.

I see no point in lurking for a long time before posting, but then my first post was about Colourbox and not Analingus.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do not refer to people by their first name unless they say it is OK to do so.

Remember that 'a lot' is two words.

Do not try to pick up ILXOR-speak in order to fit in. Languages only evolve by immigrants saying 'this language sucks, let's slash the seats',

Don't complain that everyone is cliquey and unfriendly. Even if it's true it will make everyone hate you even more.

If you don't get a joke, it's probably not funny.

Remember that a lot of things are only on here because everyone is assuming that someone else must like them.

Don't make too many threads just for the sake of it. No one knows how many too many is.

Less 'meta' is betta.

Bring a little bit of analingus to everything you do.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

words to live by

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you don't get a joke, it's probably not funny.

Hm. Well, it's not funny to you, but maybe the fact you don't get it is funny? To other people? Who are mean? And will call you names? Maybe.

Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

GSoH does not necessarily mean GSoH.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom - I agree with Martin. As I implied above, if someone is behaving "badly," admonitions not to aren't going to help him, while paradoxically they might inhibit the person who is behaving well. I don't think warning someone of all the ways they could get screwed up here is a good intro to the board. Seems to me the FAQ alreay takes care of starting new threads and how to find out about ILx slang, and you can always expand those sections slightly. Also, you could add a short, rudimentary HTML primer about italics and bold and the like. (For those of you who don't know, HTML stands for "Horny Teen Married Lesbians," sort of like the spam in your inbox suddenly coming to life and producing a great pop record, and they're married to the sons of exiled Nigerian presidents but remain horny and dissatisfied and eager to meet me, though ready to confront me with an inescapable truth that my wives or lovers have been too polite to mention: size and stamina do matter.) You could possibly change the title to "FAQ and advice to newcomers." Beyond that, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You may be too close to this thing to see how well it's working. You've got a core of decent, sane people, and there always seems to be at least one of whom is around to help anyone who runs into trouble.

Which isn't to say that chatrooms don't pose dangers. I know from my own experience that if someone is trying to pick a fight, and I find myself intervening more than once supposedly to try and talk the guy down, then something inside me is looking for a fight too, and I've got to back off and look at my own problems. But that info doesn't belong in advice to newcomers, and is more likely to scare someone than to help him.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

advice for old ilxers: don't get so worked up about new ilxers :-)

ron (ron), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Frank is spot on again. But Nick's (sorry, Dastoor's) post is so funny I have completely withdrawn my objection to this notion, as long as all the advice is like that.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 30 January 2003 13:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm a bit upset by Mr. Daddino's comment upthread. Surely there is room for me too?

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 30 January 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Roll over, roll over.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 30 January 2003 13:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

the ilx lawn in 2000 was much greener

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Thursday, 21 February 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link

more like yawn

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 21 February 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link

my advice just have fun shootin' the shit on the internet

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link

^^

my advice is make sure you're not spending more than 60% of your time complaining about shitty things are, unless you're oscar the grouch

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 February 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link

He's more about delighting in how shitty things are though tbf.

A functioning gazebo made of Candlebox cassingles (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 February 2019 02:06 (five years ago) link

Did something happen or is this just griping about the politics threads

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 February 2019 02:33 (five years ago) link

Don't post on any threads or the villagers will round on you

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 21 February 2019 07:09 (five years ago) link

Thank u 2 this thread for giving me pause to realize that the fifteenth anniversary of my first post is coming up in a few days, what the fuuuuuck

Run, new posters. Run and don't look back.

St. Boniface, patron saint of boner faces (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 February 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link

oh ppl say that like you wouldn't have just wasted your time on some other dumb shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link

I'll have you know that I've very efficiently wasted my time on a broad variety of dumb shit over those fifteen years, thank you very much.

St. Boniface, patron saint of boner faces (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

i'm just assuming the "ilx sucks" crew are actually reading the politics threads? in which case my advice is don't even open those threads, talking about politics on the internet is a losing game

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:27 (five years ago) link

'ilx sucks' is practically our secret handshake at this point, c'mon.

St. Boniface, patron saint of boner faces (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link

I'll have you know that I've very efficiently wasted my time on a broad variety of dumb shit over those fifteen years, thank you very much.

― St. Boniface, patron saint of boner faces (Old Lunch)

i've wasted my time on dumb shit all over the place, this is one of the better places i've gone to waste my time on dumb shit imo

i don't do "ilx sucks" because primus fans beat us to that like thirty years ago

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:30 (five years ago) link

Avoid the Primus threads too.

pplains, Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

I wonder if it’s to the point where an early ilxor could veritably pwn a newbie by saying “I’ve been on this site longer than you’ve been alive”


Omfg. Cry me a Justin River

nathom, Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

As pwns go, that one's practically invisible to the naked eye.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link

fp early, fp often, fp nerdstrom poindexter and just generally have a good time

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:12 (five years ago) link

never fp'd anybody, never will

Dan S, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:14 (five years ago) link

^

calstars, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:16 (five years ago) link

come in with an open mind about gaz coombes and hitler

calumy (rip van wanko), Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link

Get down and stay down

brimstead, Saturday, 23 February 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link

-bob marley

j., Saturday, 23 February 2019 06:24 (five years ago) link

duck

is delicious on a cheap frozen pizza

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 23 February 2019 10:25 (five years ago) link


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