IS IT ON? THE PARIS NUMBER!
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link
ARE THERE LETTERS ON THE WALL?
― C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 4 June 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
turnout here is pathetic, this should be redone - whether you rate C or not, he's a major figure in the history of film
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 7 August 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
^
― lacanthrope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 7 August 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
Would vote.
― boxall, Sunday, 7 August 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
i can't imagine the results being any different, at all, really, but it'd be nice to have the thread for discussion. he has come up a lot lately, i guess re: a lot of recent films that are 'emotionally' 'intense' in a different way.
we could poll performances/actors? i remember seeing claire denis' i can't sleep & just knowing how intense it was going to be because of its actors, each who mainly specialises in just standing-there-smouldering:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTpbe7OUR32x8Ece79zhqmoAdEjGgeOmlZ-SDICornJC8-iyPiswhttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHPnNZuDR9wH49ZJiP-NtKGna3VQMySY9Bps_YSw2ZwoPx15Iuhttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3DUZTdw091o4CcOGL8c4LfZEyQD0ZkblHuSXYbI79sObesLtR
gazzara, cassavetes, falk, rowlands all have the same human-nitroglycerin qualities. we could poll explosive relationships in cassavetes' films.
― (oboe interlude) (schlump), Monday, 8 August 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't seen I Can't Sleep, is Gallo in that? Or did you mean Trouble Every Day (which I like)?
― boxall, Monday, 8 August 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit - i didn't, but i was actually referring to nenette and boni, and had conflated the two. there are other smouldering performances in i can't sleep but it's really the range of moods that makes it so weird - the kinda airiness of daiga's perambulation, the atmosphere of the late night scenes, the various usually contrasting territories trodden by the two characters whose deeds inform the plot. it's a weird but good one.
re: cassavetes:
The astonishingly protracted production—as wild and free as it was methodical and meticulous—is described in detail in Ray Carney’s indispensable book “Cassavetes on Cassavetes.” A hallmark of the best modern directors is that they don’t just invent results, they invent means: they rethink and personalize the entire process of filmmaking. Cassavetes is one of these directors; his films are among the most emotionally powerful and aesthetically original works of his era.
this is richard brody on husbands, and it's what i think is one of the most interesting things about him - as someone who prizes carney's book and is as floored reading about the films and plays and their dogged genesis as i am anything, it still feels like there's a lot to debate on how successful he was - there is so much to love in his process, but there is the issue of whether he ended up making noble films that achieved without satisfying, somehow; that he achieved better means than he did results (although the emotional fabric of the films is always an achievement in itself, sure).
― bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
ben gazzara!riphe was one of the greatest for me
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
riphe's now off to meet Patrick Swayze in the Great Road House in the Sky.;_;
― wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
I was gonna say the first to mention Road House wins tonight's Hipsters Ain't Dead We Love Shit award.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtFyKbrqgvI&feature=related
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
hipsters shmipsters, i bet that almost everyone will think ben gazzara = road house (echt hipsters will throw in "big lebowski" and [maybe] the steve mcqueen OG version of "thomas crown affair"). no-one but film nerds (and whoever wrote mr gazzara's NYT obit) watched cassavetes films. (which isn't an insult to cassavetes or his films, i'm merely stating a fact!)
― wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
i didnt remember he was in lebowski til u mentioned it, havent seen road house in 20 yrs, 1st thought of chinese bookie, dam i am the 1 percent
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
this is the way culture dies, not with Anatomy of a Murder but with Eisbaer
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
ive never heard of road house
id guess his international rep owes more to JC films, save for in italy
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
I think of the Cassavetes films first, then Anatomy, then the couple he did with Bogdanovich. (Haven't seen Road House.) Worth noting how close his death was to Falk's. His IMDB filmography spans 60 years.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
think "hipsters" might also remember this one fondly too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yWEs74FsIM
― buzza, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
the NYT obit didn't even mention road house and had quite a bit about the cassavetes films. so culture is not yet dead yay.
― wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
nor Gilbert Gottfried's bit about aliens who land and ask him "Ben Gazzara's a good actor, why doesn't he have a series?"
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
he is so godam sexy in anatomy of a murder
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, wow, ben gazzara. i never thought much of chinese bookie, but he's great in it. the penis scribbling scene is my favorite gag in the big lebowski. i remember him seeming very warm and likable in an avclub interview a couple years back:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/ben-gazzara,35105/
hes one of those guys, even though i havent seen a ton of his stuff, where the stuff that you do see really sticks with you. like anatomy of a murder. curious about his italian language work!
― Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
also I knew he had done TennWilliams onstage in the '50s, but did not realize he was the first Brick in Cat on Broadway.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link
One of my favorite actors, sad he died of the kind of pancreatic cancer. Loved both Husbands and Chinese Bookie. Loved him here toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-dClTQ7yPc
― JacobSanders, Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:15 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit :(
r.i.p. original Cosmo Vitelli, you and cassavetes pulled off some magic there. I even got seriously excited and sentimental to see you and Gena hangin out in that Paris omnibus a few years ago. godspeed.
― Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
when he and Lee Remick drive off and Jimmy Stewart gives them a look that says "I'll be seeing your ass in court again soon" while also envying the fuck out of them.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
i remember him seeming very warm and likable
years and years ago I dated his editor and was lucky enough to have a few dinners with Mr. Gazzara and I can tell you that he was incredibly warm, and generous, and an all-around lovely man. Drank me under the table, unsurprisingly.
― all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
he definitely seemed like a super-great guy. very sad. :(
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 February 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://media.tri-cityherald.com/smedia/2012/02/03/23/07/959-11Jf8k.St.55.jpg
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 February 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
also can we just take a moment and look at lee remick? no objections? OK:
http://i2.listal.com/image/1242359/600full-lee-remick.jpg
http://static.life.com/ugc/091/ugc1157091/watermarkcomp.jpg
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 February 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
which version of Chinse Bookie do I screen: the 108- or 135-minute cut?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
108
― flappy bird, Thursday, 21 June 2018 05:18 (five years ago) link
tf @ these results, this needs to be redone