Roxy Music: frickin' nice or frickin' not nice

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I can't really say anything against them, because they're one of the few bands where I like every single one of their albums. If I went around listing favorite bands, I suppose they would be one of them.

That said, I still am not going to see them in concert this summer. I would have paid that kind of money to see the 70's version of Roxy Music, but now? Eh.

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

duane, you said it. When *he* says "I'm a man of wealth and taste" it's actually believable - but with Jagger it's more like hearing some delusional drunk ranting from the gutter.

Kim, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

eno once said the early oddness was part down to simply not knowing how to tone it down a bit. but, faveourite thing about roxy - instead of the old stones path of romantic downward mobility, the dress up like space-playboys and sing wacked-out space avant-pop. most past albums 1 & 2 is hopeless, though 'til the thrill is gone' or whatever it's called is a tremendous song.

matthew james, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dr. C.: I have seen another LP copy that has another, similarly shot, photo of a DIFFERENT bass player! Although mine's the same as the one you describe...

Also, I saw them at Radio City Music Hall at age 13, and am thrilled to have 8th row tickets to see them this summer!

Sean, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Isn't it depressing how so many media whores are creaming themselves over the fact that Roxy won't be playing any new material? MY GOD I'M SO RELIEVED! I WANT TO BE 16 AGAIN etc. etc. I said all this re. Amnesiac but someone has to fucking hammer the nail beyond the cerebellar clingfilm which constitutes the media.

Speaking of which - Fred? You still there? What do I think about Amnesiac? You see that last paragraph in the thread? That was me, that was.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

marcello, i'm going to be honest here, so i beg your pardon in advance: i truthfully thought the last paragraph was your impression of thom yorke, at least until you compared amnesiac to the output of other artists: thom yorke may be called many things and he unquestionably has his failings, but one thing i refuse to believe he struggles with is vanity.

fred solinger, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I wish I was that clever, Fred. What a good twist. As a semi- amateur student of human nature I can only presume to question the mindset and motives of those who would offer negatives and I would not begin to doubt Thom Yorke's selflessness.

More to the point, I wish I had been 16 when Amnesiac came out. As much as one tries to keep up, the instinct becomes blunted by the overburdened baggage of underused knowledge. These days I just try to be happy.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anyway Roxy: more classic than The B**tles. So grand, magical, clever, silly and well sublime words fail. Okay they don't fail: first side of 1st album at times is my favorite 20 minutes of music. And for a limey art-faggy band they had the most assaultive songs ever, nobody really did assaultive like they did, all that shit people say about Spector's Wall of Sound? Cut 'n paste that and apply to Roxy Music. After Eno left? Patchy but still capable of great things like "Both Ends Burning" and the Avalon singles.

Omar, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
An undeniable beaut, but one I've only discovered in the last 6 months. Try the album 'Stranded' - especially Amazona and Street life. Big, thumping and unpredictably goregeous.

david p, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oops.....goregeous=gorgeous

david p, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
I just got back from the Roxy Music L.A. tour date. It was stunning. spectacular. moving. rocking. mesmerizing. gorgeous. I can't even imagine they were better live in the 70's. Their energy was amazing. the songs flawless. rufus wainwright, the opener, was lousy. spoiled, disorganized, unprofessional, boring. they don't make them like they used to.

sadie moore, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four months pass...
Download the "First Kiss" boot of 1971-1973 Eno-era BBC sessions and prepare to be devastated. No hype, no irony, no bullshit. Unbelievably GREAT songwriting, and peerless musicianship.

Their first proper album is absolutely smashing, but the second ("For Your Pleasure") - Christ, it's still amazing, nearly 30 years on.

Even with Eddie Jobson subbing for Eno, "Stranded" smoked. "Country Life" was very solid, but cracks were beginning to appear in their carefully manicured facade.

Roxy died with "Siren" - it's almost wholly disposable. They bounced back "Viva!," an unexpectedly powerful live compilation. "Manifesto" was quite good, but after that... I just couldn't be bothered.

Download disc five from "The Thrill of It All" - their early B-sides are brilliant...

Happy Holidays,

Laura N.

Laura N., Monday, 24 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
really love the roxy classic albums 1 to 5,the wit, the sound ,the subtleties a spectrograph would miss,the artwork When I was a kid would view the release of the next roxy music album as a real artevent in my life. Kari Ann Jagger, Amanda Lear is she or isnt he?,Maryln (playboy) Cole Bryan Ferry once said, Our fans are the creme de la creme of fans,hes right.

cbl593h, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

five months pass...
Roxy fans make me feel like I'm at an AA meeting and have to stand up and say "I'm a boozer" and then everyone turns round and says "aha- this isn't an AA meeting, it's a boozers convention". No wait, that's not the right analogy, what I mean is, basically I don't like Roxy but Roxy fans make me feel really insecure about the fact I don't like 'em. Like I'm missing out on something really important because I think they're for shit.

So anyway, I have found the courage to stand up and say "I think Roxy are balderdash" but by the same token, I feel like I'd quite like to like them, even though I think Ferry is a slimy old lounge lizard with about as much style as brownshirt. And Eno is overrated, although I quite like that Music for Airports stuff.

Anyway, I have this nagging feeling that Roxy might be really good but I just can't quite seem to feel it. I had that Greatest Hits package one time and like the guy up there said, it utterly failed to make a dint in my consciousness.

Why do Roxy fans like Roxy when it seems to me that they're clearly not very good? Can anyone help?

Roger fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

such a square

David, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

That didn't help.

Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

As Tom already said, if it ain't your thing, that's that, and nothing anyone can say will change that. I sure don't get Roxy in the same way Jane Solanas/mark s do. But "Virginia Plain" is about as perfect as the 7" single ever got. And the 12" extended mix of "Angel Eyes" is about as perfect as that format ever got.

Jeff W, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Interesting that this thread happens to be revived today, as I happened to get out Stranded earlier and listened to it. Their first three are all great, but this is my favourite. It's strange, beautiful, surprising, with a wonderful sense of how to create an atmosphere and build up through a song. Song For Europe and Mother Of Pearl still sound like almost nothing else ever.

Martin Skidmore, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
omar was most otm on this thread. the first side of the first album is truly amazing. so many ideas, so maný styles. most songs begin rather conventional and then they turn into free-jazz or baroque music. second half sounds more like king crimson. i think a kc member produced that album. the last song even has crimson in the lyrics. rm probably are the only interesting band which came out of the horrid 70s.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 11 November 2002 00:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I never got the big deal about Avalon myself, but the 1977 "Greatest Hits" album is probably my favorite (much for the same reason Christgau liked it, if you check his consumer guide). Fave to least fave (noting I have no live albums or Flesh + Blood). Siren-Roxy Music-For Your Pleasure-Country Life-Stranded-Avalon-Manifesto. Though "Manifesto" the song is pretty awesome.

Anthony Miccio, Monday, 11 November 2002 01:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

i have to correct myself. there were other good bands in the 70s esp. at the end of that decade.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 11 November 2002 09:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Possibly the best band ever. The reality as good as the idea.

For Your Pleasure is pretty much my favourite album by anyone, but the first five are all essential. Remake/Remodel, Ladytron, In every Dream Home, Mother of Pearl, Love is the Drug, Both Ends Burning, Virginia Plain, Editions of you. It doesn't get any better than this.

I dislike intensely they way that some people see Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music as synonymous, but I do like a lot of his solo stuff as well. Particularly Bride Stripped Bare.

I'll buy pretty much anything associated with Roxy, no matter how ropey (Rock Follies!), but apart from the obvious Eno stuff, Diamond Head by Phil Manzanera is well worth getting.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 11 November 2002 10:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Paul Thompson *DID* play on the reunion shows btw.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 26 December 2003 05:17 (twenty years ago) link

also btw, the reunion tour is beautifully documented on a concert dvd which is so good i don't even know where to start.

dan (dan), Friday, 26 December 2003 05:24 (twenty years ago) link

how are the remasters? I've gotten so tired of repurchasing remasters of albums from this period (crimson, yes, etc) every few years that I didn't bother, although I am easily tempted by gatefold cd covers and I think a lot of these wound up as cutouts. Is the sound significantly improved?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 26 December 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

Of the remasters, I have For Your Pleasure and Country Life (which sounded like it was mastered off a flapjack on the first reissue). Both sound fantastic...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 27 December 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

Roxy Music's first four albums are somewhat overrated. Their later output is often sadly underrated though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 27 December 2003 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah true

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 27 December 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

It's all about as great as the rest is the thing

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 27 December 2003 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

for me, "Do The Strand" is the same sort of sarcasm as "Song for Europe"
not nice, but honest
i especially love that thing duane and others have commented on already, his progressive (sleazy-ish) "man of taste" projection-of-slick thing with all its ambiguities, his contest with &or response to jagger, which worked out in such a way as to be slithtly sick i suppose, as has been suggested as a band attribute in the "fricki' not nice" of this threads title, but still self-fulfillingly.

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 28 December 2003 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

Unlike last time I posted, I definitely like Stranded more than For Your Pleasure or Roxy Music now (though side 1 of Roxy is better than Stranded. It's side 2 that's the stinker). Gonna be reappraising Country Life soon.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
I heard "Avalon" this morning in a CVS (!). I don't even like that song that much, but I was excited to hear it there. I walked in and I recognized that something a little unusual was playing, but couldn't identify it immediately.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 13 March 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Hadn't heard about it beforehand, but I picked up The High Road DVD (apparently released in the US in late January). Looking forward to watching it tonight!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha "Casanova" came on my itunes as you were reviving this...

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought you'd appreciate that.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
[rather a cheeky request, but since we're talking about roxy music, could anyone possible tell me the name of the song they did about a mannequin? a flatmate of mine had a copy of it years ago, but i can't remember the title and i've never heard it since. thanks...]
-- the real life of sebastian knight (dou...@...), June 5th, 2001 12:00 AM. (link)

That would be "In Every Dream Home A Heartache", off For Your Pleasure.
-- Patrick (cal...@...), June 5th, 2001 12:00 AM. (link)

...it's actually about an inflatable doll, but I assume that's the song you're talking about.
-- Patrick (cal...@...), June 5th, 2001 12:00 AM. (link)

Great response but I think the song in question is Beauty Queen off For Your Pleasure as well though. It has those great shaky keyboards which are all over that album and the second verse is:

oooh the way you look
makes my starry eyes shiver
then I look away
too much for one day

That album really delivers what its title promises.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, but after "In Every Dream Home A Heartache," the second side blows, as it should. How can you top a song about a blowup doll?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"Bogus Man" BLOWS?!? I rate that cut right up there with Bowie's "Station To Station" in the lurching, metallic, electro-funk genre.

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was about to say...

"CHIC-KA!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

It doesn't blow but it's certainly not compelling enough to keep chic-ka chic-ka-ing for 10 minutes. Bowie is better at aloofness than Ferry.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

RM side 1 = FYP side 1 > FYP side 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RM side 2

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post

i don't think so. bogus man is groovy and far out like hell. what a jam. i think i prefer it to most miles davis. grey lagoons is slightly weaker but that mouth harp solo (is that eno with his tapes?) is absolutely gorgeous. for your pleasure finally rounds up this album nicely. the keyboards reverb like they have drunk about a million gallons. otherworldly. as if it had all been a blurred dream.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I just recently added "Love Is the Drug" as a liner to the sportstalk show I produce. Cheap thrills where I can find 'em.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think so. bogus man is groovy and far out like hell. what a jam. i think i prefer it to most miles davis. grey lagoons is slightly weaker but that mouth harp solo (is that eno with his tapes?) is absolutely gorgeous. for your pleasure finally rounds up this album nicely. the keyboards reverb like they have drunk about a million gallons. otherworldly. as if it had all been a blurred dream.

I'm with you, alex -- perfect.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I became a little obsessed with A Song For Europe this past week. Played Stranded several times in the car since I felt I hadn't played it enough to make a final judgement on it, and I still think A Song For Europe is the best track. I love how he cops this French accent and it becomes this overwrought dramatic tradgedy - you can just picture him on a stage squinting his eyes and sticking the knife in his chest when he says "the bridge - it sighs..." and that gorgeous orchestral crescendo in the middle (complete with timpani! my ears did not lie!) and best of all when he gives up and lapses into French at the end, terrible terrible romantic suffering...oh god I love it.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 15 May 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Indeed -- for anyone who thinks Avalon is the apex, this is the track they need to hear. It's everything Avalon isn't: ironic, bittersweet, tragic. Just fantastic.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 15 May 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Bryan Ferry was writing so many great songs that even throwaway album tracks were keepers. I've always been a fan of "Serenade," for ex.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 15 May 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Roxy Music, my God I would die for that band. Love them. I think Manifesto is a very underrated song, just listened to it now. The only band in my music collection where I love every single album they have released. How f*kin great is Mother of Pearl? Magic!!!

Miranda Leigh (Miranda Leigh), Sunday, 9 April 2006 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just wondering if Alfred has eaten his words about For Your Pleasure's second side since last May...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 9 April 2006 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

"Manifesto" is sooooo great. I haven't listened in a while, but I recall that the version of it on the live album from that time (Concerto?) is great too. Nice and bassy.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:03 (eighteen years ago) link

irl lol f. hazel

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link

fuck it, just coughed up $150

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link

Only going to go to this if Paul Thompson is on drums.

The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:12 (two years ago) link

it is

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:24 (two years ago) link

It's basically the classic line-up, but not the first iteration with Brian Eno. I didn't think Eno would join, but Jesus I would've splurged for the $300 seats if he did...

birdistheword, Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:28 (two years ago) link

i suppose it's possible he might pop into a London show but I wouldn't count on it (more likely, he may go to the show and not perform, ala Gabriel at the last Genesis gig)

akm, Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:32 (two years ago) link

the 2001 Roxy show I saw is by far the best “reformed band plays back catalogue” show i have seen - and i have probably seen too many - they were so good! i went as a casual listener and left a devoted fan

saw Ferry a few years back and found it a bit disappointing - he was cool but i found his band a bit underwhelming, i was hoping for a hyper-drilled unit of young guns recreating the studio sheen of his best solo stuff - but it just felt a bit tired and session-y

I remember at the 2011 (?) Roxy shows there was meant to be a bit of tension re Bryan wanting to fold his solo hits into the setlist, and the band resisting - i think they played Let’s Stick Together as a compromise - i certainly would have been outraged if the show i saw had ended with that instead of For Your Pleasure, it was a perfect way to close out a show

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 31 March 2022 20:29 (two years ago) link

Wonder if that was the tour I saw in the little theater at MSG with Rufus Wainwright opening.

Never Mind the ILX, Here's the Blecch Pistols (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 March 2022 20:41 (two years ago) link

If you mean 2001, yes.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 31 March 2022 20:53 (two years ago) link

when was the last time eno was even on stage performing for a crowd?

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 31 March 2022 22:29 (two years ago) link

Singing with Stephen Colbert and Michael Stipe in 2011?

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 31 March 2022 22:34 (two years ago) link

I did not know this existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_72UC9npjg

birdistheword, Thursday, 31 March 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link

xxp I guess in 2016?

https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/brian-eno-3bd6a03c.html

birdistheword, Thursday, 31 March 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link

i saw Eno perform live in 2009 - it was an event called Pure Scenius, a live semi-improvised collaboration with Karl Hyde, Jon Hopkins, The Necks, Leo Abrahams maybe some other people i've forgotten about! there were three concerts in one evening, with Eno directing the course of each improvisation from a little control station onstage (and very occasionally singing and playing a bit of keyboard). if it wasn't quite as good as it could have been, there were definite highlights and felt like a legitimate way to "see Eno live" - ambitious and interesting, rather than just a trad live show.

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 31 March 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDs70rPj36A

PaulTMA, Thursday, 31 March 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link

Well, went for tickets for SF so bring on the stately chaos, if you will.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 April 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link

I believe Eno did something live with his brother in the past six months in Athens.

akm, Monday, 4 April 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link

Yes, at the Acropolis last August:
https://vk.com/video/@brianeno

doug watson, Monday, 4 April 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

Just noticed that the link works on my desktop but not my phone, where I'm prompted to register.

doug watson, Monday, 4 April 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

youtube-dl works on that link if anyone wants to d/l for later.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 April 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

I briefly thought that Eno Bros at the Acropolis concert was for this summer and contemplated taking my family to Greece. I’m glad I checked. 😬

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 April 2022 12:08 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

hell....yes

https://i.imgur.com/zqHLGph.jpeg

frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:58 (one month ago) link

The Brie Of It All

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:03 (one month ago) link


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