Nomeansno : C/D/S/D

I'm all geeked out...what a dork I am.

Damn, if there was some way I could get people from every town they hit to do that, it would be, uhhh, hrm, stroking my ego, I guess. What a lame-o I am.

You'd RULE if you did it though!

Anyhoo, on the band then:
Total classic for me, one of the few bands I got into during my "punk phase" as a teenager that I still have a great time listening to, and whose releases I keep picking up.

I'm not too hot on the earliest stuff, but just about everything from the late-80s and on is searchable, IMO.
I've been up and down on favorites, but at the moment I'd probably just have to agree with the general consensus: "Wrong"!
The later albums mix it up with some of the quick punky numbers and some of the drawn out story telling ones, an dI find that in most cases, it's the latter that I'm drawn the most to, despite not being much interested in lyrics.

Yeah, it's almost 5am.

It changed my life. What a double bill.

Wrong is an absolute must have record.

They were truly incredible/inspiring last night, such a great show, easily one of the best things I have seen in a long time.

The Worldhood Of The World (As Such) may very well be their best album! "Humans", "Lost", "Wiggly Worm" (surprisingly an original song, not a Devo cover), "Tuck It Away", "State Of Grace/The Jungle"... dear god! I think i initially shunned this record because it was not as bass heavy as the previous records.. the Hanson Brothers kinda seaped into the sound at the time, which I somehow (what a dumbass I was) was turned off by. Revisiting.. holy shit. I also remember "Lost" as this song called "I Want It All" from this strange bootleg 7" comp called Pop Bus featuring Gray Matter, L7, and Jello Biafra from MANY years before. The song is co-credited to Andy Kerr, so I guess that makes sense.

The Would We Be Alive EP is odd... the title track is the Residents song covered.. good job. "Rise" sounds like the Wrights' omen to Melvins... sort of. The alt. version of "Big Dick" sounds like they want to be Pigbag or Konk! Only percussion and vocals, and of all kinds! The sole reason to get this release, if any.

The Generic Shame EP is alright.. "Sex Is Philosophy" gets a bit too nu-metal/Alice In Chains sounding, thankfully with escapes from that sound often. "No Big Surprise" is a multi-part thing with a great drum solo in the middle... "I Get Up In The Morning" is a NoMeansSkank, most reminiscent of their earliest stuff. alright.

I need to get No One.

fyi::

Sun Dec. 11 Nomeansno, Carpenter The Boot Pub,whistler,bc 9pm $5

Is this a one-off? Any Vancouver or Victoria show?

And and and and and I've never been to Whistler before!

I think a plan is in order. *grinning hard*

My concern is.. could weather affect one's ability to get from Vancouver to Whistler? Are there public transport options available? I can't imagine there aren't.

Nov.
wed. 30 NELSON
Dec.
Thu. 01 FERNIE, BC
Fri. 02 EDMONTON
Sat. 03 CALGARY
Sun. 04 BANFF
Mon. 05 Jasper - n/c
Thur. 08 LANGLEY, BC
Fri. 09 VICTORIA,
SAT. 10 TOFINO
Sun. 11 WHISTLER

:) :) :) :) :)

Now i just need to call Ditch Records and get the 411 on where the Victoria show is.

There was also a rumor (and I stress rumor) that the next album will be 50 one-minute songs... or was that 51 minute songs? Anyway.. there's a new album in the works, and these will be debuted at these shows.

Some changes to the NoMeansNo dates.. none of which affect you but do affect me. The Victoria date on the 9th has been postponed, and now they're playing Tofino on the 9th, and Cumberland on the 10th, neither of which I can get to without having to take the following Monday off.. and while Tofino is, from what I hear, gorgeous, I'd rather go there in the context of relaxing, as opposed to chasing down a band to see live.

If I was able to make it to Vancouver by the afternoon at the latest on the 8th, would it possible to get a ride to the Langley show?

If you don't want to, by all means, it's no problem. I'm just trying to plan things out here. Why do my favorite bands mess with my life like this by playing out of the way places? it's like that all-Wisconsin tour that Shellac did.

...as of right now i doubt i will be able to attend due to work commitments. if anything changes i will let you know as giving you a ride there/back would have been no problem.

I'd imagine Translink has bus service from Vancouver to Langley. Also, it's no problem if I have to take a cab back. It will be much cheaper than the entire Tofino plan would have been (*if* that's happening... talking to the Tofino Legion booker, he wasn't sure what the deal was.)

I'll be in Vancouver until the afternoon of the 10th though, so there is Fri. Dec 9th.. Don't know what's happening that day, but if you're up for a FAP, I'm for it. I should go sexually harrass contact Shmuel and LeCoq.

(I'm also in town for another Thurs-Sat deal, Nov 24-26, ..seeing Super Furry Animals/Caribou at Dick's on Dicks on U.S. T-day i.e. my escape thereof.)

I could see the vox being sorta grating to some people, but if you just lay back and accept it, this is fucking amazing music.

They mainly did new songs.. the new ones are the best ones I've heard in a decade.. back to 3-4 minute ones.. they're like the best elements of Worldhood, No One, and My Game combined.. new album to be recorded in Feb., slated release of album in June.. to be release on an Ipecac related record label. Can't wait!

"When I say No means ya'll say NO"

good news about them recording again too.

Good: They will be playing the northwest soon.. a bunch of shows in Washington State starting with Seattle on April 1st. They will also be playing more U.S./Canadian dates include those in the east part of North America next September.

Bad: I will be on a plane missing April 1st while I fly to Australia and New Zealand the day before they play that Seattle show.

Maybe: Hopefully they'll decide to do a home show right before.. either in Vancouver or Victoria.. which would be great for both of us!

OMG!

Okay, I've been liking this NOMEANSNO disc from the start..but now I'm starting to REALLY like it! Even the vox that I thought were kinda annoying at first are now starting to resonate w/me in some wierd way.....I'm starting to get the sinking feeling that these guys are some sort of Zappa/Ween thing for people that like Sweep the Leg Johnny and Shellac....I'm doomed! (in a good way!)

I recently learned that Dukowski wrote "My War" specifically about Ginn

sorry for digressing but yeah FUCK what a shame it is

especially since he moved the label to Texas

Convoy of U-Hauls filled with unsold Zoogz Rift and Leaving Trains vinyl trundling through New Mexico.

Have only ever heard bad things about Southern from numerous people I know who've fallen foul of their business practices. John Loder wasn't much better either I don't think, so don't go imagining he was the ethical giant of legend.

going back through the catalog, so many of their best songs (state of grace, the river, now, give me the push, the tower, the phone call, etc) are fucking great hooky hard rock songs more than anything else, certainly not punk in any meaningful sense

I was very confused when I bought Dance of the Headless Bourgeoisie being told they were progressive punk and being very confused.

they're great songs but....only "I'm an Asshole" really felt like 'punk'. but I guess punk is an ethos so it's cool, and they're cool.

I was very confused did you get that, i was confused, i was confused

The Tower is an absolute middle-aged punk dad singalong anthem, judging by the first NoMeansNo show I saw in 2000 at any rate.

This upcoming weekend, we are having our biggest sale...maybe ever?! Help us free up shelf space for Nomeansno.
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— AlternativeTentacles (@AltTentacles) April 12, 2021

oooooooooh

I’m really looking forward to firming up my Kerr-era NMN collection. I have the two biggies (Wrong & the 2013 reissue of TDEBI&D) but would relish a chance to revisit You Kill Me/Sex Mad and maybe finally get into 0+2=1.

Kicking myself for not having bought every copy of Mama I ever saw, for any price; I could retire at the prices even the 2013 reissues are fetching now. ... hopefully this reissue series will include it, although with NMN you never know. As I recall it’s “quirkier” than the Kerr-era material but I’d be more than willing to give it another shot.

Lucked into a copy of the “Fear Anger Betrayal Hatred” EP recently & I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Very much embryonic, but it has the spirit.

I only own Dance... and Young and Cuddly on CD and 0+2=1 on LP. What I'm really hoping for is an LP of Worldhood that includes everything from the CD....a boy can dream

I had also forgotten that I had bought the very slim NMN book “Going Nowhere” a while back, & hadn’t read it. This morning, while looking for something else I’d misplaced, I found it! Serendipitously, as I’m going thru a slight NMN revival at the mo.

released 2022: https://sheffieldtapearchive.bandcamp.com/album/nomeansno-live-bradford-1988

they also have The Fall & Crass & lots of other 80s audience tapes - I don't know about selling them though

https://alternativetentacles.com/product-tag/dad-revenge/

"At long last, after many rumors… we can confirm that the NOMEANSNO catalog will be returning to Alternative Tentacles Records." (just in case that "the return of Nomeansno" got your hopes up - they remain retired)

i'm still about that. I never came close to completing my Nomeansno collection

Tired
Tired
Tiredowaiting

BIG DICK

Yes, but Big Dick’s tired of waiting for these reissues.

Oral/visual history incoming and funds needed to help get it printed up:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ww3/nomeansno

(Supported stuff from PM Press before, they're legit.)

https://alternativetentacles.com/product/virus-77-wrong-pre-order

FINALLY

$40 international shipping? Fuck off! I’ll wait till an EU distro gets some.