Search and Destroy: Mariah Carey

She should be destroyed if only for showing those monstrosities she calls breasts off at every opportunity.... vile lollopy hanging beasts.

Remind me of my Gran's.......

wtf are you on about geir, joni mitchell is very attractive!!

Sounds like a good idea. Tell me when you find her, and I'll help you destroy her.

The first single didn't do much for me.

"With her last album, Mariah Carey has gone from awful (Adult Contemporary) to even worse (contemporary hip-hop-influenced R&B)"

Wasn't this true from Butterfly onwards though? I remember "Honey" being the decisive step towards "hip-hop-influenced R&B".

Dan Perry OTM in 2001.

search: Mariah Carey
when you find her: DESTROY! DESTROY! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

&, yeah, to piggyback SS's endorsement of Pope Dang, "Vision of Love" makes her first album.

May I direct you to "Knockin' Boots" by Candyman, in which he decides to "break off a bottle of Asti Spumanti, pop off the top, and rock with my posse."

Yeah, I pulled that "five year" thing out of the buttocks - I'd love to know when it ("Bacardi / party") first popped up, tho.

Destroy: "Hero," "The Beautiful Ones" cover w/ Sisqo

Most of these ballads I'm bitching about, now that I think about it, are more from R&B-influenced folks (cf. teenypop) than from actual R&B artists (though I'm not sure such a distinction means a damn thing).

Conclusion: I'm full of it; carry on.

Sorta on-topic (& I swear I've brought this up before): there's a bit during The Kings of Comedy where Steve Harvey goes off on how no one does love songs anymore, & it's all blustery dick-swinging bullshit (my words, not his). & then they put on some Teddy Pendergrass, & most of the people in the crowd stand up, & SH is yelling at people that haven't moved - "STAND THE F*CK UP!" (again, my words) - & he's kicking over the small endtable on stage & the mic stand & he's FEELING IT, lipsynching and swaying, and Spike Lee cuts to women in the audience, clutching their hands to their chest and singing & swaying along. &, yeah, he might have a point, but then love's changed a bit, too, Steve, so the woo you pitch isn't going to be the woo your son or daughter pitches (though it's coming from the same place).

Is "ballad" (musically speaking) a matter of tempo & sound or of subject matter?

Man, I don't know. Mid-90's alt rock was also very much my cup of tea in those days and I feel like it's pretty unremarkable and not at all surprising that this feel by the wayside with everything else in this vein back then. Which doesn't minimize the "holy shit" factor of Mariah's involvement, but it's not doing a lot for me.

"fell"

I really wish I could find a CMJ review on Google books or something.

thought this was a really good piece:

https://www.theringer.com/music/2020/9/29/21493233/mariah-carey-unified-theory-the-meaning-of-mariah

this was on beavis and butthead. probably the best promotion it received.

Ahh, that's why this song and video seemed so familiar. Not because I necessarily saw it on Beavis and Butthead at the time, but because of my more recent experiences of going down the rabbit hole of watching forgotten music videos that were played on Beavis and Butthead, because "90s Videos Played on Beavis and Butthead" is totally my aesthetic.

I feel like that article is trying to make me feel old!

She has transformed from mousy girl-next-door (do you even recognize this version of her from 1993?)

xp I actually couldn't find B&B watching Chick on Youtube but it's probably deep in there somewhere.

There's so little about this album online (only 4 pages of Google hits if you search chick "someone's ugly daughter" -mariah), you would almost think it's a hoax, if not for the apparent authenticity of some of those hits!

Present-day Mariah Carey is in the same category as Bruce Springsteen for me: interviews are often very interesting, zero interest in hearing the music.

xp Like, Sony must have baaaarely released it. I wonder how much radio play "Malibu" got (if any).

The top Amazon review is interesting:

C. Hughes
5.0 out of 5 stars Chick was fun.
Reviewed in the United States on June 17, 2015
Verified Purchase
I loved making this CD- glad (a couple of) people are enjoying it. There is a secret ingredient ;) CDD

Can't find it, but wasn't there a thing that went around tumblr (inspired by the rumored existence of this album, I think) about how people who think Kurt Cobain wrote Live Through This are overlooking that it was actually Mariah?

I didn't find anything in Lexis Nexis from before this weekend.

If there had been any knowledge of Mariah's involvement in the Chick album prior to this weekend, the price for it would've gone up a long time ago. This was new news.

Find it impressive she managed to sit on this secret for 25 years.

Found it! (in this old tweet I liked)

this is mine pic.twitter.com/T0WSyfVxTx

— Peyton Thomas (@peytonology) August 6, 2018

Doesn't mention Chick specifically, but I wondered why this news seemed familiar. Not sure what interview is being cited, though.

lol @ that final point

My bff has ordered The Meaning Of Mariah and is listening to it as an audiobook rn and says it is completely amazing, that Mariah has gone through some unspeakably insane shit and she retells this stories with an "...awkward! lol" kind of off-handedness that is devastating. He's gonna lend me the hard copy when it arrives and I can't wait

I really wish I could find a CMJ review on Google books or something.

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:54 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Billboard reviewed the single.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei8SjAHXcAAMrDs?format=png&name=small

Nice find!! (and pretty on-point blurb)

Nice work, jaymc!

I didn't find it! Annie Zaleski posted it on Twitter.

Those cultural refs are perfectly aligned with what bands like Bunnygrunt were singing about that same year ('70s kitsch, cheesy TV, etc.)

Pitchfork talked to a few people about the recording/release of the Chick album: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-story-behind-mariah-careys-secret-90s-alt-rock-album/