The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

Ohhhh shit.

i still don't totally understand the logic behind endemic, automatic phonehacking, btw, outside of like, what-will-sienna-miller's-voicemail-reveal. like i can't think of examples of what they would be able to publish that was attained that way.

i feel a bit bad that i already assumed this had happened :/

SURELY brooks can't continue to deny her knowledge now

"I never knew the phone would be hacked" will be the line presumably, whether she can maintain that line is the question.

i think it's transparently not believable, though - she's basically relying on it being perceived as a coincidence; how about that?, i happened to give her something that would facilitate phone-hacking, right amid the period at which without my knowledge my newspaper was practicing such a thing

Did Sara Payne just not have a mobile at that time? I suppose it's possible.

thought this was in popbitch a few weeks ago, and so it proves, from july 8th:

>> Screwed <<
Noose tightens at News Int

With all the blagging, cash payments
and subterfuge involved, some of the
stories coming out at the moment make
phone hacking sound like it would be a
very complicated and expensive operation.
Well, imagine if NOTW execs were bright
enough to have found a simpler solution.

As the self-appointed scourge of paedos
and the promoters of Sarah's law, it was
only natural that the News Of The World
would be on hand to comfort the victims'
families in many of the most horrific
crimes of the last decade. And such was
their apparent determination to rid the
country of child sex offenders, it wouldn't
have seemed too weird if a senior NOTW
figure sympathetically handed over a
mobile phone at no expense to the victim -
so that they could all keep in touch. And
then, of course, there would be no problem
monitoring those phones, would there?
If the rumours going around News
International about who the person
handing out the phone was are anything
more substantial than chatter from
understandably bitter ex-employees then
we might see some action on this website
before too long: http://www.hasrebekahbrooksbeensackedyet.com/

yeah someone on twitter just pointed that out. phew, thought i was imagining things when my first reaction was "b-b-but i already know that"

i still don't totally understand the logic behind endemic, automatic phonehacking, btw, outside of like, what-will-sienna-miller's-voicemail-reveal. like i can't think of examples of what they would be able to publish that was attained that way.

remember this was the early 00s, before email communication was as much the default as it is now. (when is the email hacking stuff gonna emerge?)

Did Sara Payne just not have a mobile at that time? I suppose it's possible.

eh maybe so, but that the NOTW were the benevolent donors of one?, coincidental w/their phone hacking activities

remember this was the early 00s, before email communication was as much the default as it is now. (when is the email hacking stuff gonna emerge?)

yeah, the timescale throws me off slightly. but even still, i just - like i know the 9/11 thing is still alleged, but with that, for example: what are they getting that they can use? like in that circumstance it almost seems that it's a lazier alternative to reporting, rather than a more intrusive one – one that might give them some general colour & an idea of what’s going on. but wouldn't going any further and writing a story on it have been hugely risky?

oh absolutely it's something that seems driven by laziness, so much is

Guess they would also want to know which papers were in touch with her and how much they would offer for story.

The thing that's surprised me is that The Sun hasn't been dragged into this yet.

Was it Private Eye who mentioned there being a hack at the NOTW who got all of his stories by phone hacking from the office, and was thus dubbed "The Olympic Flame" because he never went out?

xpost: I thought some an0nym0us haXX0rz were going to post like truckloads of Sun emails a couple of weeks ago?

jonsnowC4 Jon Snow
There's another hacking bombshell alleadgedly involvingt the Mirror breaking any minute..
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Wau.

My guess is that this was Piers-related and involves the build-up to Iraq in some way.

what "shocking and awful" revelations will these be?

The Mirror deleted Al-Zawahiri's "just kidding about that planes and towers thing by the way" text message to Bin Laden to make room for more?

The Mirror hacked Saddam's phone and they know The Guardian bought Saddam's WMD's?

xpost: I thought some an0nym0us haXX0rz were going to post like truckloads of Sun emails a couple of weeks ago?

This got very muddy very quickly, and I haven't kept up - but there were postponements, then tweets claiming they didn't want to jeopardize a court case, and that they were working with media outlets to prepare the mails for publication.

But at this point I'm assuming that they claimed to have the mails for lulz.

One of the lulzsec guys that was tweeting about the hacked emails got arrested yesterday too in Shetland.

Via the Telegraph:

17.17 The murmurs are that Chris Bryant MP, a scourge of News International, is going to have something big to say on phone hacking in the next little bit.

did anyone see the program on ch4 last night ?
i never knew that re anne diamond and her meeting rupert and giving him an earful, only to end up on his (s)hitlist.

Oh and apparently Brooks is muttering something now about being shocked by all this etc.

Rumour now is that Piers Morgan has been suspended by CNN?

Can't find any hard confirmation anywhere though.

Hahah here's hoping.

fake twitter account was the source of that.

grrr!

need the focus to remain on news int, other shite papers getting involved muddies the water

Piers Morgan has been suspended from America's Got Talent

More from Brooks:

"For the benefit of the campaign for Sarah's Law, the News of the World have provided Sara with a mobile telephone for the last 11 years. It was not a personal gift.

"The idea that anyone on the newspaper knew that Sara or the campaign team were targeted by Mr Mulcaire is unthinkable. The idea of her being targeted is beyond my comprehension. It is imperative for Sara and the other victims of crime that these allegations are investigated and those culpable brought to justice."

And we believe you...why?

morgan suspension confirmed by jon snow?

no, he's the reason the fake rumour got currency.

lol

In the final edition of the NoW on 10 July, Ms Payne wrote a farewell column for the paper describing its staff as "my good and trusted friends".

Story rejected, way too far fetched.

What, it's reality? Hmm.

http://www.boomtron.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/game-of-thrones-hbo-jon-snow1.jpg

"Welcome to The Wall, Brother Piers."

"The idea that anyone on the newspaper knew that Sara or the campaign team were targeted by Mr Mulcaire is unthinkable. The idea of her being targeted is beyond my comprehension."

Something tells me she's going to eat those words

she doesnt deny it, just doesnt want to think about it

In the final edition of the NoW on 10 July, Ms Payne wrote a farewell column for the paper describing its staff as "my good and trusted friends".

Story rejected, way too far fetched.

What, it's reality? Hmm.

― StanM, Thursday, 28 July 2011 17:34 (28 seconds ago) Bookmark

private eye has a devastating little story about this. sara payne suffered a terrible stroke recently and is severely incapacitated. when she came into the office, lots of her actual good and trusted friends at the notw saw how ill she was and insisted they send her home. but sara said she couldn't go because "rebekah said she was calling in a favour".

Statement from Payne family:

"Whilst it was previously confirmed by ‘Operation Weeting’ that Sara Payne’s name was not on Private Investigator ‘Glenn Mulcaire’ list, it has now been confirmed by the ‘Operation Weeting’ that Sara’s details are on his list.

"Sara is absolutely devastated by this news, we’re all deeply disappointed and are just working to get her through it.

"Sara will continue to work with the proper authorities regarding this matter, there will be a further statement in due course, but at this point in time, she (or we) can make no further comment."

christopherhope Christopher Hope
#hacking There will be NO news on Mirror tonight, sources say. For clarity, the story is not a Telegraph one...
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^^ this dude said earlier it was going to be published at 5pm today. sounds like guido fawkes bollocks to me. he and the telegraph are desperate to get the mirror implicated, because they'd obv prefer it was bipartisan illegality. but they haven't got a treasure trove of info like the mulcaire files, so even though the mirror almost certainly hacked phones, they can't land a blow.

Jesus.

"It was not a personal gift."

This is not made better by the fact it was for business.

"The idea that anyone on the newspaper knew that Sara or the campaign team were targeted by Mr Mulcaire is unthinkable."

Why is it unthinkable? He's been convicted for doing similar.

"The idea of her being targeted is beyond my comprehension."

"I am lying through my teeth and appear to have learnt fuck-all during the past month."

James Murdoch received a ringing endorsement from directors of satellite group BSkyB earlier today just as the phone hacking scandal reached a new low with details that Sara Payne, the mother of murdered schoolgirl Sarah, had been a victim of the News of the World. A lengthy board meeting at BSkyB ended with unanimous support for Rupert Murdoch's youngest son to continue as chairman of the group following the collapse of his family firm's bid for the 61% of the satellite business it did not already own.

James Murdoch could soon earn a cash bonus of up to $12m (£7.3m) from News Corporation on top of his $3m salary even though the part of the company he has run has been mired in the phone-hacking scandal, shut one of its flagship British newspapers and been forced to abandon the bid for BSkyB in the wake of cross-party hostility in the UK.

nearly half the non-exec directors of bskyb are current or former employees or murdoch businesses. add the votes of the CEO and CFO and the murdoch payroll has a majority. not sure this is "good corporate governance".

*of murdoch businesses.

i was going to do a poll of the news corp directors