The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

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Actually the last six were the names of her children.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Shallow writing is shallow writing whether it's "Career Girls" or "Spies and Guns Shoot Em Up" but it is completely sexist to imply, as that "chick lit" label does, that it's the gender of the writer and *perceived* consumers that inherently causes the shallow.

But whatever. This is not the thread.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

It's more the fact that even despite writers IN THEIR OWN NEWSPAPER pointing out that actually, this is kind of a sexist term, they just go on sniding about it. Really fucking hate that about the Guardian. Just bury "womens concerns" like, you know, gender and sexism down there in Life and Style, under the shoes and sherbet receipes, where no one ever has to, you know, pay attention to it. Like "chick lit".

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

shd start a spin-off?

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

and y'know, consistency and no middlebrow snob bullshit in the Graun? come on

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, the vast majority of novels these days are marketing primarily at women, we're talking about more than "novels by female writers marketed at women" otherwise we'd be writing off Lorrie Moore or Isabel Allende or whoever as chick-lit.

I am suddenly sad that Andy McNabb has not yet pursued a career as a Tory MP though.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

no i do think there's something in the "fact?" (in my head) that no chick lit author will ever be given the critical respect that some of the guns and spys and boys own adventure authors are given by the broadsheets

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk

:D

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

Are boys own adventure types treated more seriously when they try to enter the political sphere? Jeffrey Archer and Ken Follett would suggest that they're not, though that doesn't stop the underlying point from being valid. xp

HIS BODY IS FAT BECAUSE HE HAVE BIG HEART (ShariVari), Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

if i was her i'd be embarrassed that my life was so squeaky clean that "dancing on a dance floor" is apparently one of the three most scandalous events in my life

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

A self-described investigative journalist called David Jones

haha this is great

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah that's true although I tend to think that most Sunday Times or Telegraph readers/cultural journalists are basically Mark Corrigan and therefore not to be trusted.

I think "dancing on a dance floor" is lacking the implied "having taken a big bag of cocaine".

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

"Leaving work early" and "missing the odd day at work" along with "inappropriate dress" were the reasons quoted to me.

i think this is the best bit of her responses, anyhow

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^^People get fired from record companies for any of these reasons? News to me, frankly...

murdoch most foul (suzy), Friday, 29 July 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

I think she's implying these were spurious excuses given for her sacking?

Mensch and Watson are showing every sign of loving every single minute of this anyway. Can't blame them.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

Sparkles (2006)
Glamour (2007)
Glitz (2008)

imagining marih carey pitching a hissy fit on the publication of each of these. "that was gonna be MY next album title"

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm assuming the Weekday's Child series was discontinued on the advice of Will Young's lawyers.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I'm honestly interested in picking up one of those titles based on her conduct the last month.

abcfsk, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

A self-described investigative journalist called David Jones accused Mensch of ... taking drugs in the company of violinist Nigel Kennedy at Ronnie Scott's in Birmingham "including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk, with Mr Kennedy, in front of journalists".

That 'including....' part is very strangely worded. It makes it sound as if 'dancing on....etc, etc.... journalists' is a type of drug which she took. Even ignoring that, it makes it sound like being drunk is an example of the drugs she took. And even if it was worded correctly, accusing someone of dancing (on a dancefloor!) (while drunk!!) seems incredibly lame.

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

assume "drunk" was a cop-out meaning "ripped to the tits on Bolivian disco talc"

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah come on this is NIGEL KENNEDY we're talking about.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

can't imagine how many hallucinogens you'd have to neck to find him tolerable company

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Oh come on this is a TORY MP we're talking about.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

i mean maybe he is a secret massive Varèse enthusiast but i'm thinking no

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

she's a quite hot Tory MP tbf and in these circumstances the Tory MP bit sort of adds to the hotness for some of us pervs

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe it was during her Labour year.

abcfsk, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

nigel kennedy a legendary caner, TRUFACT

i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

True. Thinking this would be in The Brix Smth Years as well...

murdoch most foul (suzy), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

After leaving The Fall and disbanding The Adult Net, Brix... became romantically-involved with violinist Nigel Kennedy, and they collaborated on a cover of Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man" which was released as a single in 1993

Boy do I wish that was on youtube.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

that raises a lot of questions about the guardian

conrad, Sunday, 31 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/02/phone-hacking-scandal-new-arrest

^ here we go again

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:42 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch please.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

Stuart Kuttner apparently, former managing editor

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

xxp amelia hill has just added on twitter that it's believed to be stuart kuttner, former managing editor.

Kuttner has been for over 20 years the whip-cracking schemer who always knew how to get what he wanted for the paper, who knew every trick in persuading hacks to misbehave, chiselling informers out of promised fees, covering up for the illegal activities of journalists and editors.

It was he who, with cold calculation, duped former Private Investigator, Glenn Mulcaire into taking extra payments in cash, direct from the royal editor, Clive Goodman for royal stories harvested by hacking into Prince Harry and Prince William’s voicemails. That way, when Mulcaire was caught, as he was absolutely bound to be, Kuttner and then editor Andy Couslon could claim they knew nothing about it.

http://www.peterburden.net/archives/233

joe, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

BBC saying it's a 70-year old man - does that fit?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

yeah

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

can imagine an awesome OJ/glove courtroom scene in which he proves he is unable to even call his daughter using a mobile phone

sitcom neighbor (schlump), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:53 (twelve years ago) link

kuttner played a bit part in the paper's famous harry potter/september 11 tapes. reporter charles begley tells him why he's been signed off work with stress:

CB: There were a couple of events which brought things to a head. A few hours after the attack on the World Trade Centre, I was asked by Rebekah to dress up as Harry Potter. She wanted me to dress up and go to her office in the middle of the newsroom.

SK: Which date was that?

CB: That was on Tuesday, September 11.

joe, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

I feel bad for laughing at that.

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

Six weeks for the pie guy wtf:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/02/protester-jailed-throwing-pie-murdoch

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

not long enough

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

throw away the key tbh

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

i actually get more annoyed thinking about him than thinking about rebekah brooks or andy coulson

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

Throw away the key lime pie more like. I dunno, it's a bit ott. Hefty fine and some sort of social penalty maybe, but using public money to bang him up is just silly beggars imo.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

he's a comedian, even prior to the pie i'd have advocated the death penalty

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

wait waht

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

you missed the "lex hates comedy" conversation?

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

he's potentially fucked public access to parliamentary inquiries, he shd be given a medal for his contribution to radical politics self-publicism by halfwit rag society cunts

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link


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