Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Yeah iTunes does this too. I downloaded a Jim Croce song a while back only to realize it wasn't even Croce singing.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 1 August 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link

but really it's not iTunes or Spotify doing it. It's other artists doing it. anyone can record a cover without permission by simply paying the statutory rate for a compulsory license. This goes back at least to those '60s hit cover collection LPs but probably earlier as well.

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Monday, 1 August 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

this whole no songs >10 min is really starting to get to me

will probably kill the subscription because of it

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

is that a us thing only? i haven't noticed it.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

I listened to the Hatchback album yesterday and that's got a couple of 10min plus tracks that played with no problem, so it's either a glitch or a US-only thing, but that would still just be bizarre - would take out a lot of classical music for one thing.

Matt DC, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pretty sure its a U.S. only thing. Was listening to some Allman Brothers yesterday (the urge hit me, what can I say?) but it wouldn't play anything over 10 minutes. Super annoying. I was hoping that it would go away with the paid subscription, but judging by what diamonddave85 is saying, that isn't the case. Sounds like I may keep my wallet in my pocket for a little while longer to see how this shakes out. I listen to way too much music where the 10-minute plus track is fairly common.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/long_songs_are_missing

Second post here blames UMG

a million anons (onimo), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, it's only UMG stuff over ten minutes.

timellison, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

^above from a few months ago and before US launch so might not be same issue. I've never had any issue playing long tracks.

a million anons (onimo), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Affects the UK too, The Orb's 'Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld' is about an hour shorter because of it.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

from what I understand, when tracks aren't available it's because the label or rightsholder hasn't licensed the track for streaming. The Orb album is missing tracks on Rdio as well, although they aren't the same tracks and all of the tracks are available on Mog, so I'm not really sure how all of this works.

fffv, Monday, 1 August 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

I'm in the us, "shatterhand" by nightblooms is (just) over ten minutes and plays fine. Premium.

dlp9001, Monday, 1 August 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure Nightblooms weren't ever on UMG, that appears to be the common link here. That link omino posted makes a lot of sense, on iTunes a lot of those lengthy tunes are only available 'Album Only' (meaning you can't purchase them individuall) and somehow the metadata transferred over for Spotify in a way that makes them not allowed to be streamed either. Seems Spotify is looking into it though, so hopefully it will all be available soon.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

uforb and adventures are on Big Life, a UMG subsidiary

UMG is such a huge conglomerate that even though it's an issue with only ONE content provider, it's a problem imo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Universal_Music_Group_labels

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Monday, 1 August 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

I've been kinda "whatever" about people complaining about things not being on here but now that something I've been listening to for a week is suddenly unavailable (Iceage "New Brigade") ... yeah it's annoying.

dmr, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

the interface really kinda sucks; there are a bunch of little navigational things that would make it so much easier to use

plus they really need to clean up their "artist" pages, figure out what to do about two artists with the same name, etc.

that said im using this as much as itunes atp

max, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

the interface really kinda sucks; there are a bunch of little navigational things that would make it so much easier to use

THIS. Starting with multiple tabs, so I can have one with the currently playing album while I go browsing and searching in others.

Appearance of ads in the free version is very haphazard, and seems to depend on time of day maybe? Last night it seemed like there were ads after every other song, but this morning I listened to a whole album without hearing any.

time to put it in hi geir (WmC), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

pretty shitty that you can't play it on two devices at the same time as i found out when i got kicked off this morning while my wife was using it.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Starting with multiple tabs, so I can have one with the currently playing album while I go browsing and searching in others.

You can search all day and click back to "play queue" any time you like.

Tabs would be nice though.

a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

plus they really need to clean up their "artist" pages, figure out what to do about two artists with the same name, etc.

yeah, not just that but I've seen lots of cases of one artist with multiple slight variations of their name (capitalization or punctuation differences, with or without "The" etc) which is super annoying. And I've seen a bunch of cases where the "related artists" tab doesn't even include side projects or related solo acts.

But my biggest gripe is that they need to let you select multiple playlists so you can put them into a folder all at once. That, and it would be nice if they indented the folders a bit more like itunes does. Even if you organize everything into folders, the playlists still look like just one huge long list.

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

listening to incubus, counting ufos, signaling them w/ my ladder tbrr y'all!

markers, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii wish u were here

markers, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Artist discographies are messy too

I think the best part is the playlist sharing for sure. Not terribly impressed by the rst so far

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

lol

markers, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

spotify's one of the best services i've ever used imo

markers, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah playlist sharing is by far the best thing about it for me

max, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

definitely

dmr, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

but being that it's everyone's favorite feature, the fact that you can't search for public playlists except through a third-party website is ... weird

dmr, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

my favorite feature is being able to listen to such a big library of music

markers, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

no need to worry about bitrate or metadata or blah blah whatever it's all just there

markers, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah playlist sharing is the only reason I haven't deleted this yet

(oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

I still worry about metadata and slowly die inside because I can't change it.

Jeff, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

u ppl

markers, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

it would actually be kind of cool if they let you add your own tags to stuff. and maybe you could browse or search by friends tags, etc.

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

basically one of these companies needs to buy lastfm and fully integrate it in with the actual music

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

I'd rather last.fm retooled Spotify than the other way around.

dutty whiney (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

well lastfm already failed at the streaming thing and got rid of their radio feature didn't they?

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

They still have radio.

dutty whiney (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link

At least in the US.

dutty whiney (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:17 (twelve years ago) link

i use this to listen to new albums that i don't necessarily want to download -- pretty convenient imo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

i've starred over 2,500 tracks, many of which are things that i used to love to listen to at one time or another -- i can just put it on random & hit play and it's great

markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:21 (twelve years ago) link

also, yeah, when i start listening to new music again with any frequency i'll obv use this for that too. but right now it's 4 creed

markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:24 (twelve years ago) link

i've never been into playlists much myself -- i keep some for end of year listmaking purposes

i mostly don't have the patience -- actually did them some when i was in school for when ppl came over & shit but right now half of my playlists are shipley's decade lists \(o_O)/

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:24 (twelve years ago) link

and i play those from time to time

or my neptunes playlist

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:25 (twelve years ago) link

i use this to listen to new albums that i don't necessarily want to download -- pretty convenient imo

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:19 PM Bookmark

^^^

dutty whiney (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:27 (twelve years ago) link

I wanted to bump some Ryan Leslie the other day and they didn't have him tho. :/

dutty whiney (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:28 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really listen to playlists front to back or even shuffled, i just have tons of playlists for organizational purposes... but I mostly just listen to random tracks.

(oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:28 (twelve years ago) link

like I'll listen to a full album if I'm the mood for a particular artist, or if it's a new album I'm just getting into, but I'm not one to listen to full albums all day

(oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:31 (twelve years ago) link

yeah making playlists seems like too much work so i just star shit i like

markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

One of the best things is searching for an artist or producer and having it call up some random compilation you didn't know existed and then listening to it and realising said compilation is full of awesome shit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 09:01 (twelve years ago) link


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