DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

sorry i said riot, i meant "reluctantly buy vegetables in waitrose".

sort of bewildering how the police just stand around watching shops and buses being smashed up

Yep they're not letting anyone in.

girl on BBC News just now:

"maybe they are proving a point, that we don't know what the point is that they are trying to prove"

you'd almost think the policy have a vested interest in making black kids look bad

letting ppl smash shit up then going indiscrimately postal seems to be the 2k11 way

win-win!

Girl on BBC News doing a creditable job of explaining why Tottenham was different.

policy, police ehhh

BBC helicopter has run out of fuel

Big win here for Whitechapel Road Tesco Metro.

Apparently Kurdish and Turkish shopkeepers in Green Lanes and Stoke Newington have got the knives and baseball bats in.

is it wrong to feel a twinge of local pride in that?

Not at all. Good luck to them.

Wouldn't mess with those guys

lewisham lulz now according to sky

i like Dorian's line here, which echoes my own feelings about, say, the 7/7 bombers. they weren't warriors, they were destructive, violent knobheads.

Lewisham is home to Europe's largest police station, so good luck with that one. Twitter is only confirming two blokes throwing yams at one another though.

It always starts with yams.

theresa may confirms that there is "no excuse for looting and thuggery" six times in a row

TheresaMayBot successfully running her "riot response" app.

The difference between a community exploding in outrage on Saturday and 50-100 goons running up and down Mare Street today is depressing.

Definitely going down in Lewisham now. Starting to wish I didn't live three doors down from a police station.

Reports of another police blockade in Elephant and Castle? If Brixton is closed and Elephant off limits, how the heck am I gonna get home now?

Hilarious shot of some kids trying and failing to batter in the window of Ladbrokes on Mare Street. Get the feeling that selling off the playing fields was part of Thatcher's long term plan.

If Elephant is blockaded that's half of SE London out. I'd get the train to Streatham if you possibly can.

DC, did you hear the five police vans that went down Theobalds Road about 15 minutes ago?

Kate, can you go via Clapham or Northern Line to Tooting and then bus?

Carhartt outlet between Mare Street and London Fields being raided now.

Angel Sainsbury's and Waitrose were both closed when I went to buy some balsamic vinegar. WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END???

Harrow town centre evacuated, people kicked out of the cinema halfway through films etc.

how to get to well street? take bus from mile end or from bethnal green? am thinking that walking may be the best actually

xp If all the reports I'm reading about tube closures are true then I don't know how anyone's getting home Kate. I don't see the logic of packing the buses and turfing everyone onto the streets.

We're at the panic, confusion and misinformation stage then.

seeing such a variety of witness tweets, from people saying that it's about benefits/cuts/EMA to people seeing obvious opportunistic looting. really don't want to ascribe any singular motive to any of this.

This is reminding me oddly of 7/7 and trying to plan routes to get home around bombsites, except instead of terrorist strikes, it's the police barricading off no-go zones.

Tracer, the 277 is still running up Grove Road. At least they were 15-20 minutes ago.

Angel Sainsbury's and Waitrose were both closed when I went to buy some balsamic vinegar. WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END???

― Neil S, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:00 (6 minutes ago)

Probably should use glaze anyway.

burning car on mare st http://yfrog.com/h09vczcj

Shit, I just realised that I'm more afraid of police lines than I am of "looting" "rioters" or "protestors" or whatever we're calling the utes today.

And I'm a nice middle class middle aged white lady. :-/

Never knew there was a Carhartt shop in Hackney #gentrification

Twitter telling me that Rye Lane got closed and descended into widespread rice-looting about two minutes after I went through it on the bus

+ 3,000 variants of "what is there to loot in Peckham" jokes, obviously

Carhartt is an outlet store and has been there since the '90s. See also: Burberry outlet store on Well Street.

Ah! Victoria line still running as far as Victoria, get overground to Streatham Hill without going through the Elephant. But now twitter is saying someone's smashing up the one mobile shop that wasn't hit last night?

seeing such a variety of witness tweets, from people saying that it's about benefits/cuts/EMA to people seeing obvious opportunistic looting. really don't want to ascribe any singular motive to any of this.

Yeah, it's daft to do so. It's clearly elements of both.

Kneejerk reactions on all sides sent me back to something Greil Marcus wrote about commentators after 9/11 who "stepped forward to deny that anything had been done that required any rethinking of anything at all. None had changed his or her mind in the slightest about anything. Nearly every argument was intended to congratulate the speaker for having seen all the way around the event even before it happened.”

As history mayne would say, ruh-roh.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/08/08/jody-mcintyre/

The tweets I've read don't seem that bad but maybe he deleted some.

LOL, I was just reading:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/08/08/london-riots-question-and_n_920934.html

Oh, Jody-paws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p39ULW_xzUE

ha was just about to post that dorian

about time too

is there a live news stream anywhere? bbc news was showing something else 5 mins ago, don't particularly want to have to rely on sky

great advert for whoever's glass that is in Ladbroke's window about half an hour back on BBC news live. a chair, 2 massive wooden poles and what looked like a big stone barely put a dent in it.