DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

i like Dorian's line here, which echoes my own feelings about, say, the 7/7 bombers. they weren't warriors, they were destructive, violent knobheads.

Lewisham is home to Europe's largest police station, so good luck with that one. Twitter is only confirming two blokes throwing yams at one another though.

It always starts with yams.

theresa may confirms that there is "no excuse for looting and thuggery" six times in a row

TheresaMayBot successfully running her "riot response" app.

The difference between a community exploding in outrage on Saturday and 50-100 goons running up and down Mare Street today is depressing.

Definitely going down in Lewisham now. Starting to wish I didn't live three doors down from a police station.

Reports of another police blockade in Elephant and Castle? If Brixton is closed and Elephant off limits, how the heck am I gonna get home now?

Hilarious shot of some kids trying and failing to batter in the window of Ladbrokes on Mare Street. Get the feeling that selling off the playing fields was part of Thatcher's long term plan.

If Elephant is blockaded that's half of SE London out. I'd get the train to Streatham if you possibly can.

DC, did you hear the five police vans that went down Theobalds Road about 15 minutes ago?

Kate, can you go via Clapham or Northern Line to Tooting and then bus?

Carhartt outlet between Mare Street and London Fields being raided now.

Angel Sainsbury's and Waitrose were both closed when I went to buy some balsamic vinegar. WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END???

Harrow town centre evacuated, people kicked out of the cinema halfway through films etc.

how to get to well street? take bus from mile end or from bethnal green? am thinking that walking may be the best actually

xp If all the reports I'm reading about tube closures are true then I don't know how anyone's getting home Kate. I don't see the logic of packing the buses and turfing everyone onto the streets.

We're at the panic, confusion and misinformation stage then.

seeing such a variety of witness tweets, from people saying that it's about benefits/cuts/EMA to people seeing obvious opportunistic looting. really don't want to ascribe any singular motive to any of this.

This is reminding me oddly of 7/7 and trying to plan routes to get home around bombsites, except instead of terrorist strikes, it's the police barricading off no-go zones.

Tracer, the 277 is still running up Grove Road. At least they were 15-20 minutes ago.

Angel Sainsbury's and Waitrose were both closed when I went to buy some balsamic vinegar. WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END???

― Neil S, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:00 (6 minutes ago)

Probably should use glaze anyway.

burning car on mare st http://yfrog.com/h09vczcj

Shit, I just realised that I'm more afraid of police lines than I am of "looting" "rioters" or "protestors" or whatever we're calling the utes today.

And I'm a nice middle class middle aged white lady. :-/

Never knew there was a Carhartt shop in Hackney #gentrification

Twitter telling me that Rye Lane got closed and descended into widespread rice-looting about two minutes after I went through it on the bus

+ 3,000 variants of "what is there to loot in Peckham" jokes, obviously

Carhartt is an outlet store and has been there since the '90s. See also: Burberry outlet store on Well Street.

Ah! Victoria line still running as far as Victoria, get overground to Streatham Hill without going through the Elephant. But now twitter is saying someone's smashing up the one mobile shop that wasn't hit last night?

seeing such a variety of witness tweets, from people saying that it's about benefits/cuts/EMA to people seeing obvious opportunistic looting. really don't want to ascribe any singular motive to any of this.

Yeah, it's daft to do so. It's clearly elements of both.

Kneejerk reactions on all sides sent me back to something Greil Marcus wrote about commentators after 9/11 who "stepped forward to deny that anything had been done that required any rethinking of anything at all. None had changed his or her mind in the slightest about anything. Nearly every argument was intended to congratulate the speaker for having seen all the way around the event even before it happened.”

As history mayne would say, ruh-roh.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/08/08/jody-mcintyre/

The tweets I've read don't seem that bad but maybe he deleted some.

LOL, I was just reading:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/08/08/london-riots-question-and_n_920934.html

Oh, Jody-paws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p39ULW_xzUE

ha was just about to post that dorian

about time too

is there a live news stream anywhere? bbc news was showing something else 5 mins ago, don't particularly want to have to rely on sky

great advert for whoever's glass that is in Ladbroke's window about half an hour back on BBC news live. a chair, 2 massive wooden poles and what looked like a big stone barely put a dent in it.

Giggs has closed his Twitter after apparently being hacked with a message encouraging the Peckham riots four hours ago

http://yfrog.com/h8pjjgxj

This is the Peckham end of Rye Lane

not really keen on ascribing any higher motives to this than the fun of a ruck tbh

ugh Kit Malthouse can GTFO, he should stop using inflammatory language, doesn't he realise it could cost lives?

need a new thread for this

inflammatory language vs inflammatory substances

there's a riot going on: london's subaltern teens tear it up 2k11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvQutDDmNlo

BBC showing aerial footage of burning cars on Lewisham High Street now. Pretty happy to be at home right now.

Fucking hell, London.

so what's going on in hackney? i'm heading there tomorrow \o/. (not to riot.)

2011 has been mental

Just need some footie violence and the return of Spandau Ballet and your 80s revival will be complete.

that sentiment will have been expressed

Enjoyed seeing out of the window the BBC and Sky helicopters race each other from their position over Hackney to presumably Lewisham.

Teresa May's refusal to acknowledge that this could possibly be anything at all more than MINDLESS VIOLENCE comes off pretty weird. Best blame a full moon.

whats going on in bethnal green? - hearing its happening there too now, and supposed to go there in half an hour

seeing groups of lads on roman road market, shops all shuttering up

What did Jody McIntyre do? Having trouble keeping up with everything...