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cool http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/28/users-report-video-related-freezes-in-lion/

dayo, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

I had the login freeze at the weekend.

This will probably be fixed in the next few days, if it's affecting that many people.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah likely, but I dunno if I should downgrade to SL permanently or just ride it out.

dayo, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

effort involved in downgrading to sl v waiting a few days for lion patch

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

otoh

effort involved in putting up with unuseable lion v using an operating system that works

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

Aperture has basically been unusable for me since upgrading to Lion. It's opened up a severe memory leak or performance bug somewhere, and the system crawls if I try to do anything.

Millsner, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

stable release > new release w/ unknown quantity of bugs

only thing is, if I make a boot volume from lion I dunno what would happen if I tried to install it over SL in case I wanted to upgrade in the future.

dayo, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:36 (twelve years ago) link

Wrong time to say this but THIS is why jumping to a new major release is the worst idea ever.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw i upgraded to lion a few weeks ago and havent had any problems at all. tho i dont do much but ride the information superhighway & use photoshop

max, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

The only issue ("issue") I've had is that Starcraft 2 seems to grind a bit after first loading, probably because the system isn't allocating enough memory and it's having to dump apps out of the cache. Who knows, maybe because of more innocuous reasons.

I really like all the gestures and stuff? I'm probably in the "this is a good awesome release" minority.

mh, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

No issues here either. I'm on a MBP 17" from a couple of years back, with 4 gigs of RAM. I've held off on upgrading my iMac since it's a 2007 model with only 2 gigs of RAM & I'm not sure how it will do.

Euler, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

Can you really still not get a Macbook Air with more than 4GB of memory? Seems ridiculous.

mh, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://9to5mac.com/2011/08/09/turn-off-irritating-changes-in-lion-with-lion-tweaks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+9To5Mac-MacAllDay+%289+to+5+Mac+-+Apple+Intelligence%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

haven't updated yet, last I checked some of my software isn't compatible, though I'm sure it will be soon. I don't mind waiting till more kinks are worked out.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

the ars review isn't as overall positive as the SL one was, but I guess there are enough new 'innovations' to keep it around til they fix it

resolution independence... around the corner maybe? seems it's just a matter of updating all the little bitmaps

guess I'll use the 'workaround' which is to tell the imac to never sleep and to just turn it on/off when not in use

dayo, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

i upgraded because i figured the iOS 5 upgrade would be a must and i figured there might be a bunch of lion-only stuff?

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

best part of iOS 5 is you never have to connect it to a computer again!

mh, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

ok, I just tried out screen sharing via iChat and holy shit that was simple and cool and awesome for tech support in the future

dayo, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

apparently you can't (or couldn't) copy to usb drives in lion? has this bug been fixed yet? cuz that is fucking lame.

I'm not bothering with this upgrade until i0S5 forces me to (like, if cloud storage for itunes doesn't work in snow leopard)

akm, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

so I got an iPhone 4 and "restored" from iTunes. and now I don't have apps like FaceTime? how do I shot that?

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

the restore was from a pre-FaceTime restore backed up to iTunes? You should be able to access all the apps in iTunes and transfer them to the iPhone.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

Am I right that my original MacBook won't run Lion?

schwantz, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

ive copied to usb drives a bunch of times since i installed lion

max, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

I had the copying problem... restarted the finder and its been fine since

sofatruck, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

What the hell are you talking about? Facetime isn't a standalone app on the iPhone, it's rolled into Contacts or Phone app.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

(go into your phone settings and enable FaceTime)

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

couldn't figure out how to downgrade lion to SL via usb stick

lion v.sluggish on bidey in's 2006 macbook

nh (cozen), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

"apparently you can't (or couldn't) copy to usb drives in lion? has this bug been fixed yet? cuz that is fucking lame."

OH, wow, ya noticed this yesterday I could 'read only' my externals and couldn't change any access privileges! So this is a thing then huh?

streetball technician in the flesh (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

thanks djp

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

"apparently you can't (or couldn't) copy to usb drives in lion? has this bug been fixed yet? cuz that is fucking lame."

OH, wow, ya noticed this yesterday I could 'read only' my externals and couldn't change any access privileges! So this is a thing then huh?

Just as another data point, I read/write to a couple of USB drives in Lion daily and haven't had any issues. (both are formatted with Mac partitions FWIW)

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, yesterday and Monday I filled two 2 TB ext drives with no issues so

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

When it happened to me I couldn't move or copy anything... external devices or even to other folders on the internal drive. Drove me mad for about 15 minutes but then I found some talk on a forum about it and restarting the finder seems to have solved it since.

sofatruck, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

The problem it is game-theoretically disadvantageous for any major player to stop participating in the American IP disaster; if Apple doesn't patent rectangles, someone else will, and then they will sue Apple for rectangle royalties.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (silby), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

By the time an appeals court has decided that someone had prior art for rectangles in 1971, everybody's spend hundreds of millions of dollars on rectangle-centered litigation.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (silby), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Apple closed today as the most walkable company in the world, displacing Exxon, this is kind of o_O

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

walkable = valuable - fuck you lion autocorrect

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

Rule #1 of Lion: turn off autocorrect

ceci n'est pas une witty dn (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

The problem it is game-theoretically disadvantageous for any major player to stop participating in the American IP disaster; if Apple doesn't patent rectangles, someone else will, and then they will sue Apple for rectangle royalties.

― (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (silby), Thursday, 11 August 2011 08:55 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I only became aware of the guts of that recently. If you don't actively defend your IP, it's considered fair game. Pathetic.

ceci n'est pas une witty dn (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

when did we all wake up in a william gibson novel

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

how feasible is it that my airport express router (now 5/6 years old) is bottlenecking my speed?

would I get better speeds on airport extreme? do wireless routers 'wear out'? sometimes when I'm streaming a football game after 20 mins the whole internet will jam up and I'll have to restart the router before it 'unjams'

do I hear 51, 51, 51... I'll give you 51, 51, 51 (cozen), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

football streams aren't the greatest control group for bottleneck issues.

have you tried FTPing a big file and seeing what happens?

i don't think wireless routers wear out, really. that said, moving up to wireless-N is a good move - just make sure every machine on your network is also N capable.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

also, wireless in urban areas is just kind of fraught in general. for MISSION CRITICAL content like football matches i would use a wired connection, if possible.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

Apple's wireless equipment has become significantly less flakey with each generation. If you're still using an Airport Express from 5-6 years ago, that means it has only 802.11g and is just generally slower. The Airport Extremes were nice, and now the ones with dual bands -- separate channels for 802.11b/g versus 802.11n -- are stable as hell in my experience. They just bumped the hardware again in the last couple weeks stealthily, so probably even better now.

Like Tracer said, N is better, but with the newest equipment you won't have any quality degradation if not all your equipment is N.

mh, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

thanks... maybe I should look into going wired

do I hear 51, 51, 51... I'll give you 51, 51, 51 (cozen), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw I do all kinds of video streaming over 802.11n in a neighborhood with probably about ~8 wireless routers visible (not sure how many are N) and have no issues.

mh, Monday, 15 August 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

I have about 20 routers visible.

TOP TIP: Hold down the alt key before clicking on your wireless menu icon. Then wait a sec and roll your pointer over the networks in your vicinity. It will show you information about each one, including which channel they are on.

Alba, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

I heard from my neckbeardier friends that home wifi routers do wear out after 5-odd years. Shit runs hot 24/7, which is nagl for delicate electronics so might be something in that.

stet, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I forgot to add that earlier. My friend's airport express fried itself, but he also had it outdoors next to a patio audio system in Las Vegas..

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

10.7.1

* Address an issue that may cause the system to become unresponsive when playing a video in Safari

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link


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