in america it's clif bars and gatorade
― cutty, Sunday, 11 November 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
barbaric
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 11 November 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Clif bars, num. There's a thread for them already, isn't there? I want to talk about how good the cranberry-almond one is.
― Laurel, Sunday, 11 November 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link
pear apple strudel is still kicking my ass
― cutty, Sunday, 11 November 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
its all about chocolate peanut crunch.
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 11 November 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I gotta try me some.
― ledge, Sunday, 11 November 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Whoo cold! The body warms up after about ten minutes, but sadly the feet do not. I'm going to need heavier socks.
― Laurel, Monday, 12 November 2007 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link
5 minutes down the road, front tyre goes flat. 10 minute walk home. Fit spare inner. Cycle to work in horrible traffic and even horribler low-angle winter sun. I can hardly see a thing most of the way in. I could wear sunglasses, but I feel a bit funny doing that in autumn.
― Bocken Social Scene, Monday, 12 November 2007 10:52 (sixteen years ago) link
on @ 9.30pm, rode for about an hour post-dinner. tried to keep steady rhythm on capital trail (counter-clockwise) for a while, then got on quiet but wide roads and went hard for about 20 mins. thought i'd fucked up chain with downshift as i pulled up to a light, but false alarm. cruised around for another 10 minutes after that then went home. might've gone 12, 13 km? beautiful clear night.
i am getting quite a taste for this with the good weather. i may ride to work tomorrow.
sup cutty!
― haitch, Monday, 12 November 2007 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link
36 deg and intermittent drizzle. perfizzle!
― Hunt3r, Monday, 12 November 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Totally awesome weather here today. Good day at work, kept fairly busy.
Two bummers, however, one minor and one not-so-minor-at-all:
(1) keep getting told by "old hands" that my company blows and doesn't pay all that well, which is bad news, esp considering
(2) i took off someone's mirror today. before you guys get jumping down my throat, however, let me say this: riding across a wet grated bridge, SLOWLY lacing through cars in gridlock (ie - not recklessly, just doing it like any old person making their way to the light), i over correct my front wheel and start going down. brace my hand against a van (good), but this just tips me into the car next to me, and i brace against it's mirror (BAD). off goes the mirror. i felt fucking terrible, and had the guy meet me at the corner. gave him my number, etc., and he calls me like 30 minutes later. estimate: $500 for a fucking color-matched Toyota Camry mirror. there goes my first paycheck. barf-city.
― gbx, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh no, what a pisser! You did a good thing sorting it out though I think, hope yr repaid you with better breaks today.
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 09:06 (sixteen years ago) link
hope yr repaid you (frozen fingers, broken-down brain)
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 09:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Unpleasantly cold, hungover ride in today. Tailgated a bus to enjoy the heat of its exhaust. Does anyone else do this?
― caek, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 10:00 (sixteen years ago) link
We've got buses that run on old cooking oil in Brighton. If you do that here you end up smelling like burnt fish.
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 10:57 (sixteen years ago) link
fantastic ride home starting midnight last night from shepherds bush to homerton... 10 and a bit miles of deserted streets, freezing, still air and me and the bike FLYING... i'd forgotten how much fun that journey can be
― emsk, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link
gbx does your company not have insurance for this kind of thing???
― Mark C, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link
If courier companies don't insure their riders my opinion of them is going even further down...
― Mark C, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
insurance, HA!!
90 mins on the fluid 2 trainer today, my first time using it--OUCH! they were serious when they said resistance.
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 12:57 (sixteen years ago) link
How do you not go mad spending 90 minutes on that thing?
― Mark C, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i watched curb your enthusiasm... then i watched the news
then i was my power animal
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
no, really, i don't have a power animal (yet)
it's called mental stamina! come on!
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Why would courier companies INSURE anyone? Insurance is expensive, yo! As far as their employers are concerned, the people riding the bikes are prob only a step or two above the guys delivering Chinese food.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd love to do a ten-mile night ride that started at midnight. NYCers: any one ever been on one of the moonlight rides in either Central or Prospect Park?
― Laurel, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Mark's assignment this week is to watch the entirety of Quicksilver from the comfort of his trainer.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link
gbx youre tops, i'm really sorry to hear that.
my sister stepped off a curb on Beacon St and got knocked into next week by a courier. the courier stopped, said "you alright?" she said "uhhhhh..." and he replied "lady, id stick around, but i dont' have insurance. i gotta go." and off he went. (she was alright)
last night i flatted my rear. fixing a tire on an internal with fenders kinda sucks, thank god it was like 50 degrees and pleasant. if the makers want internals to sell broadly, i think they're gonna need to solve the 'bolt-on' issue. no way a normal person wants to deal with that.
dont know if you remember steve larsen the mtb pro, but he did like 90% of his training one year on his trainer to save time-he said it doubled his efficiency. so count every minute on the trainer double and you can probly just ride 6 to 8 hrs on the trainer every week.
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost that last bit to cutty obv.
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahah all my wheels have bolted on, internal or no. Is it too much trouble to just snag out the part of the tube with the hole in it? Oh, I guess that only works when there's a nail or glass or something stuck in and you can see where it is. Still....
― Laurel, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
this might happen this winter depending on snowfall. cold won't stop me, but snow will.
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Hunter that's very interesting - how is the trainer more efficient? fewer stops and starts, complete control over the speed/cadence/resistance etc?
Laurel I don't know what Quicksilver is. I feel like ILTRMB's Tuomas.
― Mark C, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, my recollection is hazy as to the exact assertion, but larsens point was that he was his whole team and mgmt, and wearing that many hats meant he couldn't lollygag, even on the bike.
exacty mark. dont know if its really 2x as efficient, but if you look at power meter readings of a long ride, esp group ride, or one without very structured format, eg. intervals, hill repeats, a lot of time is spent coasting or soft pedalling. big group rides, if you dont hit the front, you can do like, nothing. (even this has big benefits over say, drinking the afternoon away of course)
depends on the group tho. ride the bus stop out of boulder in january when the national pros are home, and you might still get blown out just trying to sit on.
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link
laurel i'll have to try that. but itd be hard to pull out just the cut bit as the bike is super unwieldy-tight bead, heavy, bell wouldn't allow bike to three point cleanly, and rack and fenders make access worse. i'll try though, yall are the bolt on experts. i have move that bell, but drops have so little space and i have two lamps in addition.
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Only if by "expert" you mean the fact that I keep a cheap 6" adjustable wrench in my bike bag. Which isn't very experty or specific, really, but more a requirement of circumstances. Anyway, yeah, you pretty much HAVE to 3-point it, that bell is a problem. I admit I'm protective of my Brooks, so I keep some shop rags in the bag too, so I can put one under the saddle point and not scratch it. Haha.
One I go to QR hubs, I'll probably never go back, I know. But right now, bolt-ons don't seem like a big deal since it's all I've got.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link
complete control over the speed/cadence/resistance etc?
this is the key. no external factors influencing your targets and goals for the session.
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
NO FUN
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I might do a quick train tonight before dinner, get the endorphins going.
― Mark C, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost srsly my first "good" year was the result of having no fun on the bike from november to july other than the outcomes of particular races.
if/when you finally plateau it will probly not be worth it anymore. everyone gets about 4-5 years.
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link
its key to persuade self that the misery is the fun
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link
well it's not like i would ever choose the trainer over a REAL ride--it was raining this morning
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
plus it's going to rain tomorrow... and thursday... and friday
thank god friday is a rest day
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
What is it you're training for anyhow Cutty? Got any target races you're aiming for?
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm training for the entire 2008 NYC amateur racing season. there is not one race in particular but i obviously i will choose 6-7 specific ones to focus on. there are plenty of races to choose from: prospect park, central park, floyd bennett memorial park, bear mountain...etc
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link
When does that all kick off then?
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link
2008 racing schedule not up yet. march.
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, you'll be flying by then. Like a mad monkey set free.
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Sorry, actually that's not an entirely flattering comparison to make.
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i will be in prime shape but then comes the real in-race learning--tactics, strategy, the paincave
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
It'll be awesome I'm sure. Feeling a wee pang of envy here I've gotta say. I was always shit at races and could never really get any consistent training together before I'd overdo it and wind up wrecking myself. That said, I'm getting a severe urge to put some big hours in and go and wreck myself all over again. Anyhow, stay sane man!
― NickB, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
thanks! the training is so embedded in my life/daily routine at this point that i'm sure i can maintain everything and be at my peak performance come the summer. what i'm looking for now is a team to work with and learn from and i'll have more confidence come race day.
― cutty, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link