do you need rich text euler?
― caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
ugh software update keeps stalling out at 98%, "writing files". standalone installers work fine.
tried an OS re-install, problem has returned. anyone know what i should try next?
― lukas, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
thomp...really? im running both lion and w7 and windows 7 is the only one im having probs with
― Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Friday, 19 August 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
nope, no rich text needed
― Euler, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
I mostly write in TexShop, but I don't use it for html editing & don't need a "full-serviced" html setup b/c uggh, just plain text. I can do it in terminal w/ vi but I'm slower in vi than I am in a regular text editor.
― Euler, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
successor: i just switched back to windows after two-three years on an ooold (pre-intel) mac and it's nice having the OS feel that's 'natural' to me back -- also they've borrowed all of the mac os features that i actually liked, so too there's this 'you got your peanut butter' feeling to it
also there's actually something refreshing about having a computer that crashes and hangs and you have to work out what's going wrong with it, it occupies a puzzle solving centre of my brain that is otherwise starved for things to do. i.e. now i don't have to bother with the crossword puzzle
― thomp, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://news.softpedia.com/news/OS-X-Lion-Drops-Save-As-One-of-the-Oldest-Features-in-Computing-213322.shtml
says:UPDATE: as our Skeptic reader notes, "In TextEdit, you CAN save it in a different format - using the same trick as with preview (i.e. Duplicate and then Save). You are then presented with a dialog that lets you choose the name and format."
― koogs, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
I am really liking having windows and linux on the same pc - its like a mullet - windows for work, ubuntu for party!
― Goth Cruise to Lynch Land (Latham Green), Friday, 19 August 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
lukas: is this 10.7.1? if not, try the combo update to whatever version of 10.6 you're at.
gbx otm that textwrangler is a good default plain text editor. monaco 9pt is a terrible default font and john gruber likes it, but don't hold that against it.
― caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
if you find an editor you really like then remember you can still use texshop to compile preview (file -> open in exernal editor or whatever it's called)
i actually really liked subethaedit for some reason. never used the collaborative stuff and never paid for it, but it clicked for me until getting a post 7.0 vim running on os x became != agony
― caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I oughta give that one a shot, I've read about it before. I'm pretty undemanding in my needs for an editor, or maybe it's that I've never figured out how a good editor could help b/c I rarely use good editors? I just write lots of prose in tex & do a little html tinkering for professional reasons.
― Euler, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
I mean textwrangler
definitely start with textwrangler
― caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
ya otm
it's got kind of a weird System 7 vibe which rubs some people the wrong way
― caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
I am really liking having windows and linux on the same laptop - its like a mullet - linux to do stuff, windows for, er, Update Windows
― koogs, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
i've played with subethaedit but is it supposed to do anything other than collaborative stuff?
Euler, if you're going to use a "conventional" editor w/TeX (or even TeXShop itself) then I recommend taking a look at the TextExpander utility. i've only been toying with it for a couple days (i use snipMate with vim), but it could save you a TON of work if you take the time to set up the snippets.
also there might be prerolled LaTeX snippets out there, too
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Friday, 19 August 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
subethaedit's USP is definitely the collaborative stuff, and it has some basic programmers features (syntax hilighting, block editing), but i only ever used it as textedit without the rich text.
― caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
the heavyweight features of textwrangler will mostly stay out of your way, but it will syntax higlight your latex, which is nice.
― caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
gotcha thomp. i get paid to find problems with computers so when it happens unexpectedly at home I find myself kind of pissed like im giving myself something free when i should be getting paid
― Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Friday, 19 August 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
caek, it's 10.6.8, and i'll try that, thanks
― lukas, Friday, 19 August 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
I do like syntax highlighting of tex.
related q: have any of you sent tex documents written in Lion to other people, to confirm that they *can't* see the previous versions of those docs?
― Euler, Friday, 19 August 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
found a solution to my controlling itunes on one comp from another: OS X's inbuilt screen sharing, crude but effective
― based god hates fags (cozen), Friday, 19 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
and with lion's full screen spaces I can just have the other macbook as a space on my desktop
― Goth Cruise to Lynch Land (Latham Green), Saturday, 20 August 2011 03:52 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I did that for years, realised I only ever booted into windows for itunes, and blew away the whole partition and bought a mac.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 19 August 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
...which somewhat complicates my 10.7 fallback position, because what I would be falling back to is ubuntu.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 19 August 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really like this "full screen apps" thing and i can't understand natural scrolling without a touchscreen.
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
def. not seeing the value of full screen yet; on a widescreen monitor doesn't this just make e.g. browsing or text editing bizarrely wide?
― Euler, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
I don't use it for those two things! Not unless there's a website with wacky fullscreen stuff.
― mh, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I guess those are my main two computing things, + iTunes but I already run that more or less full-screen so whatever. maybe it's good for photoshop etc.
― Euler, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
Aperture, Screen Sharing (remote desktop).. not much of anything yet.
― mh, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
considering how good lion has turned out i can't wait for icloud
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
Lion's been great here!
― mh, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno if it's the five year old hardware or maybe i should have done a clean install but i can't say the same
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
Full screen is great until you want to drag in a file from Finder.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
i would rather have really good window snapping than full screen ... i am using bettersnaptool right now.
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://ifredrik.com/applications/ <-- LION TWEAKS <-- FREE
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 19 August 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/lion-tweaks.jpg
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 19 August 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
didn't do full install, but cleaned out a lot of crap first. installed Lion and actually "subscribed" to Adobe CS Standard 5.5. For the first time in decades of using computers, I don't have any software that I didn't pay for. (don't even ask me about fonts...)
But things are running really smooth. Maybe even faster. Just as likely due to the cleaning up I did before updating but still.
I think I love launchpad, soon as I put all the apps I hardly use into folders and get them off the main page.
I don't miss scrollbars.
Two kind of key things don't work, but it doesn't matter. My monitor calibrator required rosetta, however xrite claims it will have a paid (cheap) version of updated software next month. And for my ancient scanner I've been using an old version of Silverfast that doesn't run. So I may just shell out for Vuescan.
― dan selzer, Friday, 19 August 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
i sort of want to buy autocad
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
I had mixed feelings about subscribing. Obviously in the long run it would make sense to buy it instead of paying 60+ dollars a month to run it. But buying it complete is 1300 dollars. Then when it's time to upgrade, it's another 300 bucks. It actually seems more cost-effective to subscribe. Maybe they think it's more likely people will keep paying rather then upgrading, or I guess they don't have upgrades that often so it works out they'll get more out of me. But purely psychologically, I absolutely cannot afford to spend 1300 dollars on the software right now, but I can commit to 60 bucks a month. Smart move on Adobe's part. Too bad I HATE ADOBE as much as I sometimes hate APPLE.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 20 August 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
Fuck Adobe, seriously. That company can burn.
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 20 August 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
Right, but I'm not about to make a living using Inkscape and Pixelmator and Pages...
― dan selzer, Saturday, 20 August 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
q: I am assuming essentially all students and hobbyists pirate Adobe software; what proportion of independent designers are using pirated Adobe products?
― (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (silby), Saturday, 20 August 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
like ones with clients and portfolios and shit not like hang-a-shingle randos
All the professionals I know have legitimate Adobe software.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 20 August 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
good enough to satisfy my curiosity
― (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (silby), Saturday, 20 August 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
In the US, Photoshop CS5 costs US$699. In Australia, THE SAME PRODUCT costs US$1,168. The price discrepancy is there in the online prices, and it's reflected throughout the CS5 range. No freight, no supply chain, therefore no excuse to inflate its prices fucking 67%. Adobe is greedy shit.
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 20 August 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
its sad, you're australian
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Saturday, 20 August 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link