rolling gun sounds thread

it makes sense in the same way as Fab still having a career imo, and he carries around a lot of the benefits of having been part of 50's crew without all the baggage of actually being 50 (xpost)

yeah but fab pumped out hits for years before having a little lull. banks had like... two solo hits then took a six year break before "beamer, benz or bentley"

yeah i know, the momentum is different but the logic is still kind of the same, in terms of "guy who does punchlines AND has commercial instincts" being a weirdly rare money spot for east coast rappers still getting shine

yeah, but Banks has always been respected as the best pure mc in the g-unit camp and one of the top younger ny rappers, and even though G-Unit isn't dominating things like they did 6 years ago they still have a pretty sizeable fanbase/following (they're pretty much the only people that bought Before I Self Destuct, for instance, which went gold iirc). Plus he's putting out solid records that cater to his core... so it's not that surprising, really.

i'm not completely convinced that banks is getting much burn outside of the northeast but still pretty good for him.

also, he just had appx ONE album that tanked. it's not ALWAYS the kiss of death, even in this climate.

going six years with barely even sniffing radio when you're really not even a national star to begin with usually isn't an encouraging sign

hilarious thing about the '09 50/Ross beef is that Before I Self Destruct STILL outsold Deeper Than Rap

i liked banks a lot but i still haven't heard anything since he's been back that makes me feel like it's much more than serendipity. "beemer benz or bentley" had a cool beat. that song w/ jeremih had a good hook. idk.

damn, "bbb" doesn't even have a million youtube views. that's p weird. was it a super late video?

oh, the unofficial on 50's account has 1.8m

this fake swizzy one was NOYCE imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEH1biyH1QY

NoYCe

ian cohen compared XXX to carter 3

NOYCE

actually no, he compared the "monopoly" beat to the "you ain't got nuthin" beat, which is a connection that i also immediately made

Tbh, I don't think I've heard a Lloyd Banks song in about 5 years. A couple guest appearances here and there maybe?

lloyd banks was def a respected rapper in ny for awhile, he sorta owned the laconic punchline rapper thing

All this Main Attrakionz/G-side/Lil B/Cities Aviv clammy clam Altered Zones rap is like one pubic hair away from PM Dawn. What happened to the days when a snare could take your neck off. Why does every rapper want to be signed to Sacred Bones or something?

yeah i feel like i need some kind of "shit that knocks" filter when looking for rap on the internet now

hey, who wants to play dominoes?

they don't call it cloud rap for nothing

All this Main Attrakionz/G-side/Lil B/Cities Aviv clammy clam Altered Zones rap is like one pubic hair away from PM Dawn.

lol this is otm but that's what I like about G-side, the stoned hippies staring at clouds sound

Oh my god there's a This Heat sample on the Danny Brown. Game fucking over.

Please bloggers keep jacking off over the fact that Tyler knows who sneaker/T-shirt designer Ian Curtis is

agree w/ whiney re cloud rap, i cant get into most of this stuff. the one tape i thought i liked, turned out my fav song was a Pimp C beat Id forgotten about :-/

these dudes just cant write songs, shit is basically indie rock obsessed w/ ~atmosphere~

there are obv some songs that pull this off but they are rare. i am into the kendrick lamar despite it being a bunch of impulses i'm against in theory, i think he pulls it off

Yeah, I like the less cloudy stuff on the Kendrick. But the Black Hippy tape kinda murks it. Whose fault is this? Wiz?

is "queens get the money" off the nore mixtape an original beat? i really love it.

(that's a mixtape i've been bumping all summer, prob quietly become my favourite of the year)

wiz is largely responsible for this, yeah. i almost want to blame young money for some of the shitty rapping but i'm not sure even i buy my own theory there
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yes, wiz is a big touchstone for some of the more normal side of cloud rap

otherwise... idk, flying lotus? idk what clams casino listens to. maybe we can blame this on microhouse?

anyway a lot of the stuff whiney brings up has its merits

also danny brown is not really this

No one said it was, especially not whiney

lol @ blaming microhouse, p sure the only connection is ilx user 'deej'

seems to me its more Drake-related. maybe dudes getting into boards of canada? could it be chillwave, lol?

Zola G-Up

last name "ever", first name "chillwavest"

yeah this is definitely drake + khalifa + kudi/808s kanye

anyway I tried listening to Main Attrakionz but the first song samples GLASSER so I had to turn it off and listen to some M.O.P.

Forgot Cudi!

cudi is a huge one for sure

i would probably say wiz is the least influential of that triumvirate bw listed

not sonically

the kendrick album is pretty much a direct descendent of 'kush & oj'

yeah this is definitely drake + khalifa + kudi/808s kanye

^bingo yeah this is what i was trying to get at

the kendrick album is much diff than main attrakions tho

yeah I don't really get why Kendrick is being included in this convo

I mean I guess certain songs on his record are "spacy" but I don't see him as a part of this movement at all

thats like, prog-pop-rap like lupe or BOB style wedded to drake w/ some wiz in there too. wiz's stoned melodic sound is a lot closer to max b (who he's claimed as an influence, and i hear it in song construction tho not rapping) than the kind of listless ~vibing~ i hear from main attrakions

eh but who knows

kendrick's tendencies are all ones i dislike in rap, its amazing that i like that lp as much as i do

i talked about this whole thing sorta in my review of "adhd"

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12262-adhd/

main attrakionz are sorta their own subset & it's a bit harder to trace bcuz so much of the sound goes back to "i'm god"

proto-cloud rap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdH4NkKzbv4

^ would sound right at home on Kendrick's album