rolling gun sounds thread

hilarious thing about the '09 50/Ross beef is that Before I Self Destruct STILL outsold Deeper Than Rap

i liked banks a lot but i still haven't heard anything since he's been back that makes me feel like it's much more than serendipity. "beemer benz or bentley" had a cool beat. that song w/ jeremih had a good hook. idk.

damn, "bbb" doesn't even have a million youtube views. that's p weird. was it a super late video?

oh, the unofficial on 50's account has 1.8m

this fake swizzy one was NOYCE imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEH1biyH1QY

NoYCe

ian cohen compared XXX to carter 3

NOYCE

actually no, he compared the "monopoly" beat to the "you ain't got nuthin" beat, which is a connection that i also immediately made

Tbh, I don't think I've heard a Lloyd Banks song in about 5 years. A couple guest appearances here and there maybe?

lloyd banks was def a respected rapper in ny for awhile, he sorta owned the laconic punchline rapper thing

All this Main Attrakionz/G-side/Lil B/Cities Aviv clammy clam Altered Zones rap is like one pubic hair away from PM Dawn. What happened to the days when a snare could take your neck off. Why does every rapper want to be signed to Sacred Bones or something?

yeah i feel like i need some kind of "shit that knocks" filter when looking for rap on the internet now

hey, who wants to play dominoes?

they don't call it cloud rap for nothing

All this Main Attrakionz/G-side/Lil B/Cities Aviv clammy clam Altered Zones rap is like one pubic hair away from PM Dawn.

lol this is otm but that's what I like about G-side, the stoned hippies staring at clouds sound

Oh my god there's a This Heat sample on the Danny Brown. Game fucking over.

Please bloggers keep jacking off over the fact that Tyler knows who sneaker/T-shirt designer Ian Curtis is

agree w/ whiney re cloud rap, i cant get into most of this stuff. the one tape i thought i liked, turned out my fav song was a Pimp C beat Id forgotten about :-/

these dudes just cant write songs, shit is basically indie rock obsessed w/ ~atmosphere~

there are obv some songs that pull this off but they are rare. i am into the kendrick lamar despite it being a bunch of impulses i'm against in theory, i think he pulls it off

Yeah, I like the less cloudy stuff on the Kendrick. But the Black Hippy tape kinda murks it. Whose fault is this? Wiz?

is "queens get the money" off the nore mixtape an original beat? i really love it.

(that's a mixtape i've been bumping all summer, prob quietly become my favourite of the year)

wiz is largely responsible for this, yeah. i almost want to blame young money for some of the shitty rapping but i'm not sure even i buy my own theory there
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yes, wiz is a big touchstone for some of the more normal side of cloud rap

otherwise... idk, flying lotus? idk what clams casino listens to. maybe we can blame this on microhouse?

anyway a lot of the stuff whiney brings up has its merits

also danny brown is not really this

No one said it was, especially not whiney

lol @ blaming microhouse, p sure the only connection is ilx user 'deej'

seems to me its more Drake-related. maybe dudes getting into boards of canada? could it be chillwave, lol?

Zola G-Up

last name "ever", first name "chillwavest"

yeah this is definitely drake + khalifa + kudi/808s kanye

anyway I tried listening to Main Attrakionz but the first song samples GLASSER so I had to turn it off and listen to some M.O.P.

Forgot Cudi!

cudi is a huge one for sure

i would probably say wiz is the least influential of that triumvirate bw listed

not sonically

the kendrick album is pretty much a direct descendent of 'kush & oj'

yeah this is definitely drake + khalifa + kudi/808s kanye

^bingo yeah this is what i was trying to get at

the kendrick album is much diff than main attrakions tho

yeah I don't really get why Kendrick is being included in this convo

I mean I guess certain songs on his record are "spacy" but I don't see him as a part of this movement at all

thats like, prog-pop-rap like lupe or BOB style wedded to drake w/ some wiz in there too. wiz's stoned melodic sound is a lot closer to max b (who he's claimed as an influence, and i hear it in song construction tho not rapping) than the kind of listless ~vibing~ i hear from main attrakions

eh but who knows

kendrick's tendencies are all ones i dislike in rap, its amazing that i like that lp as much as i do

i talked about this whole thing sorta in my review of "adhd"

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12262-adhd/

main attrakionz are sorta their own subset & it's a bit harder to trace bcuz so much of the sound goes back to "i'm god"

proto-cloud rap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdH4NkKzbv4

^ would sound right at home on Kendrick's album

oh for sure. even the corny pop hooks of latter-day lupe are on that kendrick record (and somehow come out much more listenable than lupe)

me like Lupe's first two albums ;_;

i like some joints on them too.

where does GRIND MODE-type rap fit into this

yeah me too, but I really like EARLY mixtape lupe... shit like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyLLmByA6Y0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHktuhXi904
(this song is crazy... on some Desert Storm/Fabolous-type shit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9sjpmujySk

yeah I definitely hear a vibe-music influence in a lot of this stuff, though I don't know if that music had enough of an impact to have influenced the dudes making these beats

like, this is so vibe-y:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvCnhyAP1m8