rolling gun sounds thread

is "queens get the money" off the nore mixtape an original beat? i really love it.

(that's a mixtape i've been bumping all summer, prob quietly become my favourite of the year)

wiz is largely responsible for this, yeah. i almost want to blame young money for some of the shitty rapping but i'm not sure even i buy my own theory there
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yes, wiz is a big touchstone for some of the more normal side of cloud rap

otherwise... idk, flying lotus? idk what clams casino listens to. maybe we can blame this on microhouse?

anyway a lot of the stuff whiney brings up has its merits

also danny brown is not really this

No one said it was, especially not whiney

lol @ blaming microhouse, p sure the only connection is ilx user 'deej'

seems to me its more Drake-related. maybe dudes getting into boards of canada? could it be chillwave, lol?

Zola G-Up

last name "ever", first name "chillwavest"

yeah this is definitely drake + khalifa + kudi/808s kanye

anyway I tried listening to Main Attrakionz but the first song samples GLASSER so I had to turn it off and listen to some M.O.P.

Forgot Cudi!

cudi is a huge one for sure

i would probably say wiz is the least influential of that triumvirate bw listed

not sonically

the kendrick album is pretty much a direct descendent of 'kush & oj'

yeah this is definitely drake + khalifa + kudi/808s kanye

^bingo yeah this is what i was trying to get at

the kendrick album is much diff than main attrakions tho

yeah I don't really get why Kendrick is being included in this convo

I mean I guess certain songs on his record are "spacy" but I don't see him as a part of this movement at all

thats like, prog-pop-rap like lupe or BOB style wedded to drake w/ some wiz in there too. wiz's stoned melodic sound is a lot closer to max b (who he's claimed as an influence, and i hear it in song construction tho not rapping) than the kind of listless ~vibing~ i hear from main attrakions

eh but who knows

kendrick's tendencies are all ones i dislike in rap, its amazing that i like that lp as much as i do

i talked about this whole thing sorta in my review of "adhd"

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12262-adhd/

main attrakionz are sorta their own subset & it's a bit harder to trace bcuz so much of the sound goes back to "i'm god"

proto-cloud rap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdH4NkKzbv4

^ would sound right at home on Kendrick's album

oh for sure. even the corny pop hooks of latter-day lupe are on that kendrick record (and somehow come out much more listenable than lupe)

me like Lupe's first two albums ;_;

i like some joints on them too.

where does GRIND MODE-type rap fit into this

yeah me too, but I really like EARLY mixtape lupe... shit like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyLLmByA6Y0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHktuhXi904
(this song is crazy... on some Desert Storm/Fabolous-type shit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9sjpmujySk

yeah I definitely hear a vibe-music influence in a lot of this stuff, though I don't know if that music had enough of an impact to have influenced the dudes making these beats

like, this is so vibe-y:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvCnhyAP1m8

idk what clams casino listens to.

his fact mix is all young l metal bangers and stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75xzKWtNCdM and not cloudy at all.

I don't really feel like vibe music is at all connected to any of this stuff?

i dont think clams is at all connected to it, but there is an atmosphericness to 'vibe music' that does feel ~related~ even if not in a directly influential sense

main attrakionz are sorta their own subset & it's a bit harder to trace bcuz so much of the sound goes back to "i'm god"

― J0rdan S., Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:01 PM Bookmark

Yeah, "I'm God" definitely feels like the breaking point for the Clams Casino/Keyboard Kid/Main Attrakionz end of this (but not Kendrick Lamar, who is more Wiz-influenced, or G-Side, who really at the end of the day just wish they were in Goodie Mob).

I dunno, vibe music is more like e-ed out party shit than introverted stoner music.

the godmother of cloud rap:

http://seemelgo.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/picture-1_6.png

hahahaha

I don't really feel like vibe music is at all connected to any of this stuff?

― dizzy gillespie plays a sax/ me, myself, i love to (max) (The Reverend), Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:17 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

idk i mean, i think something like "roll up" is kinda vibey

if any of you motherfuckers names the 2012 thread rolling vibe thread or whatever i swear to god

When I saw that Deej found a way to mention Max B and his influential rhyme style, I let out an audible groan in this ramen restaurant

anyway...possibly good rap music - new juvie album called 'rejuvenation'

http://trapsntrunks.com/?p=38207

idk i mean, i think something like "roll up" is kinda vibey

― J0rdan S., Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:29 PM Bookmark

I feel that, but I don't think it was really intentional? Wiz just kind of made a more crossover-palatable version of his usual aesthetic and it ended up at that point. Most actual vibe rap is way faster though.

if any of you motherfuckers names the 2012 thread rolling vibe thread or whatever i swear to god

― k3vin k., Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:30 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest

we already have a rolling vibe thread

one of my favorite songs is "shes so fly" by grind mode

I feel that, but I don't think it was really intentional? Wiz just kind of made a more crossover-palatable version of his usual aesthetic and it ended up at that point. Most actual vibe rap is way faster though.

― dizzy gillespie plays a sax/ me, myself, i love to (max) (The Reverend), Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:36 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark

right. it probably was unintentional... idk what stargate are listening to. but a lot of the synths sound the same even if they're deployed in diff ways

obv vibe music >> cloud rap

fyi this is a really, really boring discussion. could someone answer my qn?

is "queens get the money" off the nore mixtape an original beat? i really love it.

fyi that's a really, really boring question

how is a simple request for information "boring"

wtf is 'vibe music'

yeah I think it's an original beat lex... I don't recognize it, anyway.

how is a simple request for information "boring"
--lex pretend

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