I HATE APPLE

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I have to use XP at work and I've trained it to mostly stay out of my way (tweakui has saved lives), but it still runs like an absolute dog, and it still actively hassles me on a four-hourly basis every time it downloads system updates (cmd -> "net stop wuauserv" has also saved lives).

ceci n'est pas une witty dn (Schlafsack), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

xp is the stone age! well the iron age at least. it's so old it's been relegated to a virtual machine for stuff that doesn't like 64-bit

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

MS will support it forever though. Jobs has no qualms about killing anything, which is a plus when it comes to making products. Not having to play to corporate environments with high requirements and low margins? Excellent.

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

yes, more people may be programming but what are they creating and how is it transforming their worldview, etc. are there more possibilities now or is there a greater sense of market forces, consolidation, media consumption habits, it infrastructure reinforcing the status quo? in other words, what is transformative, what is revolutionary, what is a shiny new bauble, what is an easier time of passive consumption, or worse, the spectacle/mirage/hypocrisy of *changing the world*

^^ OTM

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

at least xp works! like doesn't crash all the time. that was a big step for microsoft.

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, XP was solid for its time (and it's probably unfair of me to criticise it in 2011) but in UX terms it was on the brink of being my mother. Vista was my mother.

ceci n'est pas une witty dn (Schlafsack), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

If you feel the need to constantly hold the the user's hand throughout a search function, you probably need to redesign the search function.

― ceci n'est pas une witty dn (Schlafsack), Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

^ boom

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

yes, more people may be programming but what are they creating and how is it transforming their worldview, etc. are there more possibilities now or is there a greater sense of market forces, consolidation, media consumption habits, it infrastructure reinforcing the status quo? in other words, what is transformative, what is revolutionary, what is a shiny new bauble, what is an easier time of passive consumption, or worse, the spectacle/mirage/hypocrisy of *changing the world*

You're getting at something here that I think is interesting, and I'd like to prod at it, but I'm not sure I follow you completely. Could you put it another way?

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

Because it strikes me that "are there more possibilities now or do we just have the illusion of same" is something worth posing, but you've got a lot of other larger ideas and commas thrown in there and I'm struggling to connect them with this particular insight.

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

PS Are there any Apple keynote speeches/presentations on youtube that are especially historic/amazing to watch? I don't mind sitting through that stuff but some of it is really long and I'd like to be pointed to the 'greatest hit' maybe. Is there a top ten list somewhere?

Of all of them (and I've seen a lot, even spoke w/Jobs very briefly) I love the iPhone introduction. The "are you getting it?" line kills...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASkis57blsc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec76iwztQok

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

This is also great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

this thread

thomp, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, windows 95 was pretty crappy, take that bill

thomp, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

http://twitpic.com/5vbvf9/full

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link

yes, mcdonalds have made sure their wifi is compatible with apple products -- now you can use your mac, in mcdonalds, to do things on the internet

thomp, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

lol silby

markers, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

ahaha that's great

ceci n'est pas une witty dn (Schlafsack), Friday, 26 August 2011 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

i'm going to pass on trying to explain how i feel about jobs & why his resignation was a deal to me

markers, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

this df post that i linked to above about the resignation is worth reading: http://daringfireball.net/2011/08/resigned

markers, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

no, it's not.

jed_, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

if ppl want some jobs & apple-related discussion, the this is my next guys put up this week's podcast: http://thisismynext.com/2011/08/25/podcast-021-08-25-2011/

maybe someday i'll write something somewhere about jobs

oh, and talk show's recording tomorrow btw: http://5by5.tv/talkshow

markers, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link

:/

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 26 August 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

alright yo

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 26 August 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Steves-Brain-Leander-Kahney/dp/B001LF4ARC/

i've read that twice & think there's some good stuff in it

markers, Friday, 26 August 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link

not a perfect book tho

markers, Friday, 26 August 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

i'll also be reading the isaacson bio starting the day it comes out

markers, Friday, 26 August 2011 04:08 (twelve years ago) link

Man, first FCPX, then this!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 26 August 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

lool turing machine markers

caek, Friday, 26 August 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

my feelings about jobs are kind of mixed. this comes pretty close for me to summing up probably the main problem i have with him http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/10/04/if-wishes-were-iphones

caek, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

somebody call the waaaaaaaahmbulance

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 August 2011 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

I do love that an allegedly gay man is now CEO of such an enormous company.

― ceci n'est pas une witty dn (Schlafsack), Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:01 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not even allegedly at this stage http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/08/25/dont-ignore-tim-cooks-sexuality/

caek, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link

also http://blog.fawny.org/2011/02/02/gaylives/

caek, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

like, that's not an excuse to call you a dick, i'm curious why you're so weirdly venomous here.

― *steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:50 PM

for explanation, i turn it over to some dude

i'm done trying to cajole you into posting like the smart, opinionated person i know you are, i know you're dedicated to stupid gifs and youtubes and "looooool" til the end of time, i guess i should just ocnsider a killfile (i usually don't like the idea of a killfile because it seems like it would make threads confusing, but since you never prompt or participate in any real discussion it probably wouldn't make a difference).

― some dude, Friday, August 26, 2011 12:09 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sorry you feel that way

― markers, Friday, August 26, 2011 12:11 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sorry your posting persona sucks ass

― some dude, Friday, August 26, 2011 12:13 AM Bookmark

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

Picture of Steve Jobs from today, and ummm he doesn't look good at all http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

oh no! poor guy.

jed_, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

:-(

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

:-\

dayo, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

he looks dressed for the grave

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

holy crap, that is bad. he didn't look that bad a month ago or whenever the icould thing got announced. not good.

akm, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

I can't figure out if and when I should sell aapl. I feel like I should have sold at 400, and now this. Obviously not that much is going to change in the short term day to day, but who knows what will happen when he dies. I guess they have a ridiculous amount of cash though.

the wheelie king (wk), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

looks.... fake?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

i mean obviously he's sick enough to quit as CEO but that there photo don't really look right

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

is he wearing a dress

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

it's like somebody redacted his clothes with #000000

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck cancer

stet, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

My initial thought was that it looks shopped.

Straight Outta Bill Compton (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

my first thought upon hearing of this resignation was that hes prob at deaths door

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

Not downplaying his situation in any way but the man credited with making technology stylish and desirable is wearing socks and sandals.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 August 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

socks and birkenstocks

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

if that's a real picture and he is as sick as he seems I have no doubt he would just want to be physically comfortable at this point. but I think that picture is a little suspicious

akm, Friday, 26 August 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link


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