Taking Sides: Bowie's Low

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side two is just a continuation of what Eno was already doing. Side ne is a totally bizzare leap gfor Bowie to make (or just a continuation of a lot of the krautrock already around, but it did manage to take that sound it put it into more of a pop format, shorter song length.) I pick side 1.

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A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

i just remembered ... i also have a soft spot for "some are"

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:38 (twenty years ago) link

CD bonus tracks tacked on to classic albums usually makes me nervous, but 'some are'... what an unbelievable track for them to leave in the vault for 20 years...

granted it would have been tough to place anywhere on either side. but somehow it's now my favorite track on the whole album.

can't believe they leave it off some versions of the album. criminals.

also, geir, you know about the 'All Saints - collected instrumentals 77-79' compilation, right?
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/masses/ab/bowie45.html

(Jon L), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

whoops, '77-99'. now I remember why I passed on buying it, was scared.

(Jon L), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

the all saints instrumentals collection is rub though -- i have it, and if you already own 'low' and 'heroes' it's pretty superfluous. as a 'bonus' it includes those awful phil glass symphony remix things.

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

not a bonus. no.

(Jon L), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

I do not agree w/geir: just why would be the BEST electronic alb in the world?!

'Another green world' is so much better than side two or side one of heroes.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

I'm going to buy this tonight. From memory, side 2 is best, and Low is better than "heroes", but we'll see. Poss I will buy both.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

geir and momus
up a tree
doing what they shouldn't be
f-a-s-c-i-s-t

momeir, Friday, 17 October 2003 12:03 (twenty years ago) link

eight years pass...

This week's Then Play Long update? Why is it here? Read on.

I've only just quick-scanned it (bookmarked for quality time with a glass of laphroiag, for sure) but that is fantastic.

willem, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

… but you got problems

j., Thursday, 19 December 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FODvjYoVEi8&feature=youtu.be

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FODvjYoVEi8&feature=youtu.be

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 September 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

oh shit lol xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 September 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

anyway I laughed

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 September 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

Same guy did this one, which is not as brilliant, but still very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZEGHK_3W2o

dlp9001, Sunday, 14 September 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link

Geir Hongro, may I just say that you seem like a very reasonable man indeed and I am utterly baffled why some on these boards hold you up as an example of spectacular and stubborn insanity. When I come to Norway we shall roam fjords singing the rather decent melody of 'Sombre Reptiles' together.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link

haha that Warszaw video is hilarious, very well done!

niels, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 07:31 (nine years ago) link

After some thought, this has to be Side One for me. Side Two has 'Warszawa' and 'Subterraneans', which are both indispensable for me, but every cut on Side One rules.

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 08:57 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

I listen more to side one, but I think side 2 informs side 1. You listen to it in a slightly different way because you know what's on the other side.

The extra track they put on the re-release a few years back was really good, I forget what it's called now.

― Two-Faced January (Two-Faced January), Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:19 AM (12 years ago)

yes: you can even give it a pass over and over, but it's still there, and the more unevenly you play it, the more side 2 sounds like a discovery or a rare event

j., Thursday, 14 January 2016 03:14 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Is it just me or is the new mix crystal clear?
https://open.spotify.com/album/6DcvIymXDe8sCD1u0fzi8J

niels, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

lol it's apparently just a remaster - nothing to see here... I'm just enjoying it a lot

niels, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link

Sides One of Low and Heroes, put together, would be the most fantastic Bowie pop record ever made

eh, fun idea ! I will try to listen to it that way. It may change the perspective.
I have loved Bowie (mostly the Ziggy period and StS) but can't really get into it anymore.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link

Easily in my Top 3 albums of his, alongside Station to Station and Lodger ...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

How did I miss this thread at the time? Of course I prefer side 2 as it is more challenging and less conventional. And almost everything Eno touches sounds better after. Additionally I have never liked Bowie's contrived voice.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

no wait there is something to see here after all:

In terms of the issue around the mastering and the additional bass or ‘bottom end’ on albums like Low and Lodger, the point was strenuously made that Tony Visconti has never been involved in remastering these albums before, and what you hear on these new remasters is how he always wanted them to sound.

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/parlophone-respond-to-david-bowie-berlin-box-set-mastering-criticisms/

niels, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link

interesting ! especially since I was just listening to Low/Heroes today and was wondering what the difference was between this Low remaster and the 1999 one.
And I also noticed that "drop" during "Heroes" but I thought I had touched a button or something.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

I couldn't resist having a look over at the retirement home upon reading that - I instantly saw a thread that was about 180+ pages...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

There will be friendships truncated and sig files revised over this...

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

the way the snare sound deepens and then cuts off in "breaking glass" >>>>>>

eno's convulsive blinking synth in "what in the world" >>>>>

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

the out of tune Iggy backing vocals on "What in the World"

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link

yes to both of those, yes to all of Side 1, this is his pinnacle imo much as i love Lodger. still think "Heroes" is the weakest of the three

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

In the intro to Breaking Glass I recently noticed really quiet synth that sounds like a ringing phone that was either muted or erased and has bled into another track, kinda wish it had been left in.

MaresNest, Saturday, 30 December 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link

I've always found this idea of a "trilogy" a bit stupid, for me I see everything from Station to Station up to Scary Monsters (including stuff like The Idiot) as one long golden period.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

Do you have any idea of the context of the recording of those three particular albums?

Because if you did, you're already aware of the idiocy of your own statement.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

Actually, Turrican is right insofar as the Davis-Murray years go from 1976 to 1971. And only one album was recorded in Berlin.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

it's a well established shorthand, however arbitrary, let's hustle along without revisiting Taxonomy 101 for the millionth time

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link

this is not your first rodeo

j., Monday, 1 January 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

1976 to 1971?

Mark G, Monday, 1 January 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link

I've always found this idea of a "trilogy" a bit stupid

i think i posted this before:

Bowie began referring to the three albums as a Berlin-centered trilogy during the promotion of Lodger, although "Heroes" was the only installment primarily recorded in the city.

stupid idea or not it was bowie who started it.

new noise, Monday, 1 January 2018 02:00 (six years ago) link

song cycle begins with "sister midnight" and ends with "red money" there you go

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 1 January 2018 09:38 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

Y'know, people say that the melody on 'Weeping Wall' is meant to be 'Scarborough Fair', but I suspect that it's actually taken from Zappa's 'Who Are the Brain Police?' (Which Bowie was a fan of and even apparently covered in the '60s)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

Eh?!??!? Right, I'll have to check that out!

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 November 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

It's true!

ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 November 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

ummm wow!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 8 November 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link


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