a sublime frequencies call out: how often do you listen to radio palestine, i remember syria, bush taxi mali, etc.

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I've only heard five:

Princess Nicotine
Cambodian Cassette Archives
Molam: Country Thai Groove

Pop Hits = very effective in shuffle mode.

Radio Java I loved but feels more like a full-length

I Remember Syria is kind of needs to be taken in intact, like a radio play. esp. disc 1

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

ive wanted to listen to these for awhile, but i can never find them on slsk and im not about to take an $18 risk to see if i might like syrian pop music.

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe john'n'chicago can send me his!

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist: this is the family favorite

http://www.iranianradio.com

when i get home i'll post a few more (this is the part i admit i only know about persian radio and not arab radio)

the main difference between these radio stations and the sublime frequencies discs is that instead of dropping in the sound of goats / the sound of the bazaar these radio stations will drop usher or nina sky or whatever. it feels a little more vital to me this way.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

btw DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT click on any of those links! these people are shystie and will bomb you with spyware and stuff. you might want to be sure you're using firefox.

actually here is a better link

http://www.iranianradio.com/listen.php

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

btw they are playing bomb shit RIGHT NOW

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

phil-two, are you on the hub here? I can hook you up with a little Syrian and Lebanese pop.

x-post:

vahid, great, this might be the only way to get me to listen to some U.S. pop stuff. I am more interested in Arabic radio, but I am also interested in Iranian music. I suspect there's more of it out there that I would like.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

All the great Arabic streaming radio sites I discovered a few years ago either went to a fee-based set up or they disappeared entirely.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

phil: what's your slsk user name?

john'n'chicago, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

TUNE IN RIGHT NOW FOR AN IRANIAN TRIBUTE TO MEN AT WORK

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

playing whilst someone walks by coughing and a goat bleats in the distance.

*swoon*

Next to the Conet Project box, these are the best things for iPod shuffle play ever.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

im philtwo on slsk

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

er, phil-two

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

For SF fans, in SF

ybca.org/fv/evening/apr05/sublime_frequencies.html

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I got Radio Sumatra partly out of nostalgia because I lived in Indonesia for a year, and I have fond memories of listening to Indonesian pop music on the radio and TV there. Sure enough, it sounds pretty much exactly like I remember it. Seems like Indonesian pop hasn't changed all that much in the last 15 years. I never realized what a potential gold-mine of music was all around me, I could have taped hours of this stuff for free when I was living there.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

radio palestine's probably my favorite. i only listen to it once or twice a month, but that's a lot for me. Radio Syria, Princess Nicotine, Radio Sumatra, Radio Java, and Cambodian Cassette Archives are all fantastic.
also, scott seward OTM about lhasa.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Radio Haiti! Radio Zagreb! Radio Bougainville!

Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

listened to radio morocco tonight - still awesome.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 March 2005 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't forget the salsa channel at Digitally Imported (mostly old school): http://www.di.fm/

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Now playing boogaloo: Hector Lavoe "Eso Se Baila Asi"

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

vahid, this streaming Persian radio is pretty good.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 20 March 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

(Based on like 5 minutes of listening.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 20 March 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

not just pretty good, it is very awesome. i think i can (tentatively) say that it is very representative of what iranian-americans of my parent's generation listen to.

you'll notice there is very little anxiety between trad / modern and pop / classical. i am increasingly convinced that is a unique part of western culture.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 March 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

actually i am sure it is representative of secular iranian-iranian listening tastes, too (some of the stuff on there wouldn't pass mullah muster).

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 March 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

hey rockist today is actually also a pretty good day - it is going to be mad and celebratory for probably at least 18 more hrs, since persian new year's is being celebrated yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 March 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, I ended up switching to Qur'anic recitation. That was earlier though. I have the Iranian radio back on. It reminds me a lot of some of the songs on a contemporary Afghan CD I bought a little while back. Some of the bombast synth stuff was just getting on my nerves earlier.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 21 March 2005 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you happen to know this Afghan singer Hasib Ashrafi?

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 21 March 2005 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i think perhaps we are born immune to bombastic synths. in fact, bombastic synthwork is maybe my favorite part. sometimes it reminds me of latin freestyle with a not-quite-bhangra beat. i just need to find a suitable diva before i unleash my freestyle-oriented iranian electroclash project on the world (i'm calling it Yazziz)

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 March 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

So to ask a dumb question, what is Persian new year? Is it a specific national tradition? (I don't even know where New Year's falls in the Islamic calendar.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 21 March 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

1st day of spring, celebrated by every religious group. the thematics are similar to easter (rebirth, renewal, fuzzy animals and candy)

vahid (vahid), Monday, 21 March 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

SATURDAY and SUNDAY!!!!! (2 Special Events)

Saturday April 2nd

HEMLOCK TAVERN (1131 Polk Street/San Francisco)

10 PM $8 cover and they have a SMOKING ROOM!

http://www.hemlocktavern.com/

Master Musicians of Bukkake (from Seattle)

Sequel 4000 (Comedy Sketch group)

Pusser’s Phinn (Southeast Asian Molam and beyond)

A Film By Alvarius B. "Jazz Classics"(Javanese Puppets GO Avant Jazz!!!!) 30 minutes

Sunday April 3rd

An Evening with Sublime Frequencies

Yerba Buena Center for the Arts

701 Mission Street SF CA 94103 http://www.ybca.org

SPECIAL SCREENING TWO SHOWS: 5:00 and 8:00 PM

Niger: Magic and Ecstasy in the Sahel

(the PREMIER of this upcoming DVD in abbreviated form/ 55 minutes)

Sublime Frequencies Archives #3

(film collage from SE Asia/ 35 minutes)

2 SHOWS: 5:00 & 8:00 pm • Screening Room
$10 regular $9 YBCA Members, seniors & students

Hisham Mayet/Alan Bishop in person for Q & A.

DO NOT MISS THIS!!!!!
Tuareg Electric Guitar trance rock, Bori cult dance ceremonies, Fulani Folk and Roadhouse Gospel Rave-ups are some of the segments included in this celebration of life in the Sahel region of Africa, filmed by Hisham Mayet on location in Niger. Opening the program will be an exclusive glimpse into Southeast Asia captured in Cambodia, Burma, and Thailand by the Sublime Frequencies Collective: Explorers dedicated to acquiring and exposing obscure sights and sounds from modern and traditional urban and rural frontiers via film and video, field recordings, radio and short wave transmissions, international music, sound anomalies, and unique forms of human and natural expression. (90 min running time, plus talk).


bashosings (basho), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I am so going to this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I will be in Seattle. I will pay tribute by "playing" A Love Supreme.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Radio Pyongyang is the best, partly for the weird English pronunciations.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 15 April 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahah, I'm not alone!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

That is a good one.

http://www.bidoun.com/issues/issue_10/08_all.html#article

http://www.electronicbookreview.com/thread/musicsoundnoise/ethnopsyche

critiques of sublime frequencies courtesy of Jace/DJ Rupture's mudd up blog at negrophonic.com

curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 April 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

omar souleyman is a funky god!

QuantumNoise, Sunday, 15 April 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

very interesting articles, thanx curmudgeon.

I really like Pyongyang as well, the only other radio one I heard was Sumatra which didn´t really wow me.

sleeve, Sunday, 15 April 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i just need to find a suitable diva before i unleash my freestyle-oriented iranian electroclash project on the world (i'm calling it Yazziz)

-- vahid (vahid), Sunday, March 20, 2005 9:16 PM (2 years ago)


still waiting for this!!

s1ocki, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting stuff in that 2nd link about the lack of context in these CDs (and real ethnomusicologists hearing them and being like "What? These are massive, famous pop hits. Hate to rain on your look-how-crazy-and-exotic parade...") as well as lack of payment (or even credit) for the songwriters. The Sun City Girls guy's psychotic defensiveness is a major turnoff as well. But these CDs are very cool, regardless.

Ben Boyerrr, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

(or rather the first link)

Ben Boyerrr, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

why is the fact that they're hits a problem?? that's what i LIKE about these cds!!

s1ocki, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

They don't give credits to the artists or pay royalties.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post: It's not that they're hits, it's that they're consistently presented as this 'unknown' material. I've complained about this on other SF threads as well -- much as I like the music that's been presented here, the fact remains that track identification and the like has never been consistently done, and both pieces linked undercut the various claims in SF's defense I've read/heard that such identification could never be done. Sounds like it rather easily can, in many if not necessarily in all instances.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

here's the thing though (in my opinion)... Would you rather that they just keep these treasures for themselves and not release them?

I think that the SF releases are a mix of nearly untraceable "field recordings" and easily traceable "hits" but I think it's kind of unfair to call them out because "they don't pay royalties". There are a lot of American labels that everyone seems to think are really cool but THEY don't pay royalties either. That never seems to come up here. And they wouldn't have to do ANY detective work to do it.

I mean are we only now just coming to grips with the fact that the Sun City Girls people are a bunch of quirky weirdos who just do whatever the fuck they want?

my iPod is (sic) now has a desperate global fuckedness about tit.

OTM, except for the confusing tit part...

Saxby D. Elder, Sunday, 15 April 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Where is the thread where we were just discussing this?!?!

Alex in SF, Sunday, 15 April 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait here it is:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=37935

Alex in SF, Sunday, 15 April 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

steets of lhassa is DA HOTTNESSS

chaki, Sunday, 15 April 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Just to note, the Group Doueh compilation LP is properly credited and was created with the full knowledge of the group, who actually gave SF the recordings. It's fantastic, by the way.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 16 April 2007 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i should first say that i'm biased 'cause i'm friends with alan and hisham. and i really respect mark and the other people who've worked on the and with the label.

from what i've seen, all of the critiques of the label on ethical grounds do not seem very cogent or to have the facts straight -- any of which could easily be cleared up by contacting alan or hisham via the s.f. site -- they're eminently reachable.

as to critiques of the music itself, some of the sublime freq. releases that are collage-y are not my favorite. but they've yet to release anything that's not at least good, in my opinion.

the dvds have all been stellar, especially those shot by hisham.

hisham interview from blastitude here: http://www.blastitude.com/19/MAYET.htm

Mike McGooney-gal, Monday, 16 April 2007 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i understand what dude said was kind of alarming and p vile, but is it really possible to care about someone's wellbeing while also instantly excommunicating and shunning them? would it be so bad to unban him and attempt to dialogue?

sleepingbag, Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:44 (six years ago) link

good question for the moderator request board

mh, Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:55 (six years ago) link

Suck my asshole, sleepingbag

khat person (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link

Ack, I got into Shiina Ringo years ago because of the ILM thread, which Rudipherous was largely responsible for keeping alive.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:20 (six years ago) link

he's been posting a long time and his music knowledge is deep; the thing this place has over specialist / focused lists is the ability to cross-reference completely across genre, it's the people who make the connective links between wildly different artists who make the deepest contributions and I hope he's ok

Milton Parker, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:26 (six years ago) link

thanks for checking in w/him, Sund4r

is it really possible to care about someone's wellbeing while also instantly excommunicating and shunning them?

yes, as long as lines of communication are kept open

would it be so bad to unban him and attempt to dialogue?

based on past board experiences with M March@nt and burt_stanton and others, I'd say "yes" here

Milton also otm

sleeve, Saturday, 10 February 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link

I haven't heard back from him, fwiw. If anyone is there irl or is in touch with him, maybe you'd want to check in idk?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 10 February 2018 23:56 (six years ago) link

Thanks for trying Sund4r. Does anyone know his irl name?

how's life, Sunday, 11 February 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

Yes, feel free to email for it.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 11 February 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

it sucks that this thread went this way as his wake-up post is OTM, I learned Wassouf's music on a long flight last year and it's astonishing stuff.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 11 February 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

There is a blog linked in his user profile (if you click on the user name under the post). I'm presuming it's his. There are fresh posts as of today. The antisemitism goes back years. That's as far as I'm going to pursue this.

EDIT: There are aspects of the blog that may be disturbing and definitely NSFW.

mod, Monday, 12 February 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

Christ, it's even worse than I thought.

pomenitul, Monday, 12 February 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link

fuck this arsehole.

calzino, Monday, 12 February 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link

there are loads of posters on ILX who are "on the edge". I couldn't care less if this prick decides to take himself out.

calzino, Monday, 12 February 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link

I stopped communicating with him a little over a year ago (until yesterday) and am disturbed by the blog's contents but I still FPd you for that.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 12 February 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

probably a bit harsh an a rush of blood, but fuck him tbh.

calzino, Monday, 12 February 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

I mean maybe some good folk can harbour International Jewish conspiracies, without being irredeemably shit people. But I've never met any yet.

calzino, Monday, 12 February 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link

shame abt the antisemitism and transphobia and homophobia bc he has eclectic taste in music

omar little, Monday, 12 February 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link

There is a blog linked in his user profile (if you click on the user name under the post). I'm presuming it's his. There are fresh posts as of today. The antisemitism goes back years. That's as far as I'm going to pursue this.

You might want to put a little NSFW warning here.

Dinsdale, Monday, 12 February 2018 06:29 (six years ago) link

Sorry if I came off as overly snarky in my last post but he's given me thinly veiled useless bigot creep vibes forever which I think were actually masked a bit even to myself by his world music expertise. I take his particular brand of bigotry a bit personally and he should never be allowed to return. May he find peace and enlightenment elsewhere.

omar little, Monday, 12 February 2018 07:30 (six years ago) link

Dinsdale: Thanks. I've amended the post.

Calzino: for fucks sake man.

mod, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:25 (six years ago) link


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