I HATE APPLE

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the other thing about that jobs picture that is suspicious is the idea that a frail, on the verge of death steve jobs would just be hanging around outside posing for pictures in his black skirt or w/e -- dude is one of the most secretive guys on the planet

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

> Before Apple, the hard truth was that the "inmates ran the asylum," in that products were typically designed by engineers to satisfy their own needs, as opposed to those of the actual consumers of the products.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Apple_I_Computer.jpg/250px-Apple_I_Computer.jpg

koogs, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

he says "before apple," he means before the nu-jobs renaissance

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/Inmates-Are-Running-Asylum/dp/0672316498

^ first came out in 99

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

really good book fwiw

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

The intersection of technology and liberal arts

possible translation: the ipad and devices like it have produced computing's equivalent of philosophy or comp lit: an expensive, self-indulgent diversion

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

i forget you're a science guy sometimes.

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

products were typically designed by engineers to satisfy their own needs, as opposed to those of the actual consumers of the products

sometimes "engineers" and "actual consumers" are one and the same, and things like quantum mechanics and the space program and the internet happen. this goes all the way back to fourier and the first engineers.

at the opposite end of the extreme, the two groups have little overlap. that's what you call a "service industry" and unlike "real industry" it doesn't do a whole lot for the long-term prospects of the country.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not a "science guy", hoos, i'm a "civil servant", and thus a strict utilitarian

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

That is why even though this moment was long anticipated, and while I know that Steve isn't gone (and hopefully won't be anytime soon), yesterday's announcement nonetheless feels like a "Kennedy" or "Lennon" moment, where you'll remember "where you were when ..."

haha wut

ice cr?m, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't mean "science guy" derisively, i meant it as "strict utilitarian."

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think so, hoos, i think you're confusing me with a strict rationalist

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

no, a strict rationalist wouldn't call philosophy "self-indulgent."

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

iPad as the signature moment in a brilliant career

The Shins Will Change Your Life

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

lol

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

Not Apple, where sacred cows are ground up and served for lunch as standard operating procedure.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

sick company, brah!

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/08/25/0811-steve-jobs.jpg

do you remember how zoolander had names for his faces

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

possible translation: the ipad and devices like it have produced computing's equivalent of philosophy or comp lit: an expensive, self-indulgent diversion

ah, yes, philosophy, that notably expensive exercise

Euler, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

A legacy with no equal.

A sentence with no verb.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

ah, yes, philosophy college, that notably expensive exercise

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

I too long for the dark ages, don't get me wrong

Euler, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

We make things that are easy to use, fun to use

i am picturing derrida saying this

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

or possibly someone who designs learning resources for stupid kids

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

who's beefin and why

dayo, Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

i'm beefin against SOCIETY

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

maaaaaaan

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

i am beefin in honor of tombot, and jon williams and nude spock before them

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

*LOLs furiosly*

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

that's the best thing i've seen all week

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

Ponder for a moment the predecessor to the Apple Store, CompUSA, and what that experience was like versus the new bar for customer service being set by Apple.

but really i think this is the pivotal sentence for me

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

what i am getting at is that in general, people can tell the difference between an article on lee iacocca and an article on john galliano, an article on jay z and an article on warren buffet. i think that steve jobs sort of muddles all of those parts together, and what disturbs me is the uncritical celebration of all of them equally, as if they're all the same thing.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

the worst part about that sentence is that it is terribly written

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think there's an equivalency happening, the suggestion in these let's-call-them obits is that he was an impressive polymath.

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

ronin who never had a true master, so he had to create his own

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

the worst part of that sentence is the idea that america has become the world leader in "customer service"

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

how do you export customer service, i ask you

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

how is a predecessor an experience? why is an experience being compared to "[a] new bar of customer service"? why is that bar "being set" instead of having just been "set" already? how does anyone use the word "ponder," ever, and still take themselves seriously as a person that uses words*? i ask you.

*apologies to ned raggett here, obv

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

If you ask me, anything beneath Assembly is pandering to stupid idiot consumers. j/k

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 29 August 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/TtWYF.jpg

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

ha

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

btw congratulate my wife on her new MBP

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

congrats, mrs. p3rry!

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

eve pwned

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Can't people just learn to get along? Even the 800 year old busted robot ended up with the love of his life.

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

At CompUSA I picked up something I wanted, carried it to the register, paid and walked out.

At an Apple Store, I fight for space with a crowd of yuppies and yuppie-children, try to flag down a lackey for service, evade them trying to sell me anything, tell them what I want, wait for them to go find one, then wait for them to make their handheld register work and finally get to pay and leave.

Fuck Apple Stores, IMO.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

Milo Z? the band?

Splendid Curving Oasis of Ivory (Latham Green), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

Sounds like your Apple Store sucks, man.

I usually walk over directly to what I need, some drone asks if I need something, and I yell "SCAN THIS HERE'S MY CARD MY EMAIL IS (my email) THANK YOU SIR!"

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

sooo.. iTunes Match is in beta

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 05:10 (twelve years ago) link


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