Paul Simon, "Hearts & Bones" - C/D?

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the new show is the only time I ever saw that, it's weird that I remember that pretty vividly.

akm, Monday, 29 August 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link

I saw it on HBO's Video Jukebox back in the day.

reggae night staple center (Eazy), Monday, 29 August 2011 04:38 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Not sure how long this will stay online, but this is the "Train in the Distance" demo included as a bonus track in the catalog re-release:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsArOakcLHw

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Saturday, 8 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Really lovely, thanks for posting.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 September 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

she cooks a meal or twooooooooo

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 03:58 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

good lord this album is terrible

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

For an album to be terrible, more than half the songs have to be terrible.

This is not one of those albums. "Allergies" and "Cars are Cars" are the only throwaways.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah this album is great, come on now. "train in the distance" "magritte" "think too much" "johnny ace" ... what's not to like?

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

It's a question I often repeat
Where do allergies go when it's after a show
And they want to get something to eat?

really? you ask yourself this question a lot? so many weak slapped together "observational" lyrics that don't add up to anything, his usually reliable storehouse of memorable melodies and hooks almost entirely absent, a bunch of arrangements that feel like tentative stabs towards some shakily defined goal - no wonder he ended up borrowing/collaborating so much on the next record, it's like he forgot how to write.

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

"Allergies" and "Cars are Cars" are the only throwaways.

agree these are the worst, they're embarrassing

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

listening to them makes me feel bad for Paul Simon, in a "oh come on man, don't do THAT, oh no you are doing it anyway please stop"

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

way

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

I'd also add the Chic version of "Think Too Much" to tylerw's list. The album's second tier Simon, but it's the best kind of crisis album: an artist at a crossroads, anxious about the next step.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

I'd add both of them

NATION: ? ? ? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

oh wait, he already had one. how did you know which was excluded?

NATION: ? ? ? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

after the mega-flop of the One Trick Pony film/album you can just imagine the label's reaction when they hear H+B track 1 side 1 for the first time. no wonder PS says they didn't give a shit what he did next and let him go off and do whatever the heck he wanted.

weird how the massive Central Park gig happened in between One Trick.. and this! like at that point there was nothing to be done to halt the slide.

piscesx, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

also this is fascinating if you haven't seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nap6bNPU4qU

piscesx, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

weird how the massive Central Park gig happened in between One Trick
hearts and bones was originally conceived as a simon and garfunkel reunion album right? i'm sure the record company would've been fine w/ anything that had S&G on the cover.

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

One Trick Pony is not a great album but I love that movie

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

mmhm yeah until they had a row and he 'removed his vocals note by note'(WIKI). the demos with Art were on YouTube but.. not now it seems.

piscesx, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

wau @ that interview!

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

ha yeah. innit.

xp still haven't seen One Trick but this looks.. weird/great. Lou Reed is a pretty good actor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDRjsKcFC9g

piscesx, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

that's towards the end. It got put out on DVD as part of MGM's cheapier archive reissue series, def worth hunting down imo

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link

i kind of like "cars are cars." the melody on the "i once had a car that was more like a home" parts is pretty. i guess those are the verses.

this album is good. it has "hearts and bones" and "train in the distance" and "song about the moon" and BOTH "think too much"s and "rene and georges magritte"! an embarrassment of riches.

horseshoe, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link

engine in the FRONT
jack in the BACK

i don't know it always sounds like simon's singing to his kids on those parts. it's goofy, but i like it.

horseshoe, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

saddest part is the above is not true all over the world

NATION: ? ? ? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

i feel like "cars are cars" leads with its dumb tautology so that it lowers your expectations and then it manages to slip in some moving stuff? like, it's essentially making the same argument as "i am a rock" does, but more lightheartedly.

i also think paul simon has feelings about cars.

it is not the most carefully crafted of his songs, sure.

horseshoe, Monday, 2 November 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

I had never connected the dots that he was playing Johnny Ace when that guy ran onstage at the Concert for Central Park (that track doesn't appear on the album iirc), that's pretty freaky.

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

"Cars are Cars" is very stupid, but yeah the "I once had a car that was more like a home" section is brilliant and should have been saved for a better song. Other than that I think "Allergies" and "When Numbers Get Serious" are very weak, and "Song About the Moon" is acceptable as the same kind of laid-back unimportant album track that had populated much of the last two records. So that's a lot of the record, since there's only ten tracks on this thing, but "Rene and Georgette," "Hearts and Bones," "Johnny Ace" and the quiet "Think Too Much" are all excellent, with the first of those among Simon's very best songs. I also think the Rodgers "Think Too Much" is fun and catchy, enough that you can imagine what Simon or the label were hoping to get out of this collaboration. One of my favorite stanzas on the record:

I had a childhood that was mercifully brief
I grew up in a state of disbelief
Started to think too much when I was twelve
Goin' on thirteen
Me and the girls from St. Augustine
Up in the mezzanine, thinkin' about god, yeah

Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Monday, 2 November 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link

i slightly prefer the quiet "think too much" but the other "think too much" is great, and the part you quoted always makes me think of plax (hi plax, if you're around!)

horseshoe, Monday, 2 November 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

Paul Simon being very Paul Simon-y in this Cinemax Album Flash special on Hearts & Bones from '84:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ELMdiXGkI&t=547s

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

or: https://youtu.be/59ELMdiXGkI

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link

The title track and the quiet "Think Too Much" always destroy me, I can't sing along to them because I get a lump in my throat. I guess I have been listening to this album as long as Tusk, but nowhere near as often.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 14 February 2019 05:10 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

I just discovered this album. Wtf why is it so underrated? Is it the ugly album cover? This is actually really good.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 02:58 (two years ago) link

I mean it could be that “cars are cars” is a low point from everything I’ve heard of him so far. But there’s some of the best I’ve heard of him in here too.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 03:00 (two years ago) link

The title track and "Rene and Georgette Magritte With Their Dog After the War" are two of my favorite Paul Simon songs, but Simon's done a pretty good job of including them on his endless compilations, so I imagine most fans know those songs.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 03:05 (two years ago) link

you take two bodies and you twirl them into one
their hearts and their bones
and they won't come undone

One of the best divorce lyrics of all time. So good. I have to admit I have never listened to this as an album, but should, because I love the three songs from it that end up on compilations.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 03:11 (two years ago) link

I have never heard Paul Simon comps. I’m familiar with the popular singles and three albums: s/t, graceland, and rhythm of the saints… just rediscovering the rest. Oddly enough it’s the non-singles and some of the deep cuts the ones that make me the most interested in his music. Songs like Thelma and Peace Like a River are two of my favorite of his. Title track from this one is very impressive as are both versions of “think too much”.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 03:12 (two years ago) link

He is one of those artists that his most popular singles do a disservice to the rest of his work imho.

Not that “you can call me al” or “me and julio” or “50 ways” are bad songs. They are great, but they feel like they don’t really represent this other side of him.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 03:19 (two years ago) link

His comps can feel very redundant, even when they expand to fit a new format (one vinyl disc to one full CD to two full CD's, etc.) But they also highlight how much his solo records (at least before Graceland) cohere really well with each other every time you mix them together.

His first three studio albums, Graceland, Rhythm of the Saints and his last two studio albums of all-new songs wound up being my favorites. Hearts and Bones is on the cusp - good songs but something about they way they were produced feels a little thrown together to me, like they needed a few more passes to make all the elements gel within each track.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 04:44 (two years ago) link

like more Art, less technique

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 05:50 (two years ago) link

xp Peace Like a River is all-time.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 06:06 (two years ago) link

Yeah, these days the eponymous debut gets overlooked. I spent time with it in January after several years -- what a charming, friendly, smart collection!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 11:12 (two years ago) link

xxp that's about right. Clearly more ambitious, but they don't quite nail the execution.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link

i should spend some time with this one this week, it's been ages. most recently have had really nice evenings with Still Crazy and Rhymin' Simon. i feel like almost all his albums besides Graceland are in some sense "underrated." H&B has some of his most affecting songs for sure. i think only "Allergies" and "When Numbers Get Serious" don't work for me at all.

The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 14:32 (two years ago) link

I'm tempted to say the title track and "Rene and Georgette Magritte With Their Dog After the War" are better than any song he's written since, and the original album versions are beautiful recordings despite my reservations elsewhere. Graceland's a much better album, but it's a triumph that owes a lot more to the contributions of new and guest collaborators, etc.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 15:44 (two years ago) link

Xxpost love Peace Like A River and Armistice Day off the solo debut. Had H&B on vinyl way back when. Never bought the CD so it’s been ages since I’ve heard it.

that's not my post, Thursday, 10 March 2022 05:03 (two years ago) link

The solo-acoustic “Train in the Distance” is one of my favorites of any of his songs.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 10 March 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

I can see that. I always liked parts of that song, but it feels underdeveloped on the studio recording. I vaguely recall some strings popping up at the end - they felt kind of thrown in there and drove home how rough the album sounds, like they were still workshopping ideas rather than figuring out what they really wanted to do and taking the usual care to execute those ideas.

birdistheword, Thursday, 10 March 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link


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