Subways are for sleeping: NYC Transit survival thread

to be fair to NJT they got hit way worse than the MTA did

beginning of god's plan to wipe out the suburbs

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/09/02/nyregion/JERVIS/JERVIS-articleLarge.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/nyregion/port-jervis-train-line-will-take-months-to-repair.html?ref=nyregion

our new public transit system:

http://www.streetsblog.org/2011/09/14/nyc-chooses-alta-to-operate-bike-share-system-with-10000-bikes/

Gotta love those water-main breaks for the Monday PM rush

it was an 100 year old year old tube

and funding for 'less than 100 year old' things doesn't exist because people like this are in charge: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/governor-andrew-cuomo-eagerly-attends-an-auto-show.html

+1 for avoiding morbs-is-old joke
-1 for 'an 100'

no you see I was saying it w/ a british accent

-2

http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/16/ahead-of-its-time-an-icon-goes-digital/

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date Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:42 PM
subject MANH, A, B. C. D. 1 train, Black Eyed Peas Concert

All persons attending the Black Eyed Peas concert in Central Park are to detrain at the 59th Street-Columbus Circle Station for entry to the concert.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/soon-l-will-mean-less-crowded-subway-officials-say/

But the report (see below) also offers an inadvertent manual for weary riders trying to beat the crowds. From 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. on Saturdays, for instance, the Brooklyn-bound L sometimes carries up to 35 percent more passengers than the prescribed maximum load. The lesson: midafternoon barbecues in Williamsburg are not recommended.

The good news for riders is that the sardinelike conditions may soon be coming to an end: subway officials have pledged to run more L trains on the weekends, starting in the summer of 2012, according to State Senator Daniel L. Squadron, a Democrat representing parts of Brooklyn and Manhattan whose office requested the study.

a subway conductor answers all your nyc transit questions!

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/kx5fa/iama_new_york_city_transit_subway_conductor_ama/

lol, a single extra weekday morning L train between 9 and 9:30 ain't gonna do shit.

I guess they're just at capacity for the 8-9am hour and can't add more trains? Or what?

Maybe the best solution is to expand ferry service.

OTOH, it would not be hard to increase weekend L service from ZERO

most of the time that they're shutting down the l like that it's so they can install the new tech that will allow increased capacity.

and yes hurting I believe it's basically at capacity atm. ferry service is mostly a joke as far as commuting goes. fun tho.

I was just down by those new condos/rentals on the waterfront (where Brooklyn Flea is now) and I saw they were running the ferries pretty rapidly. I was thinking what if they had like five of those docks on each side of the river and maybe included a subway transfer with your $4 fare -- at least some of the more well-heeled nu-Williamsburgers would probably take the option and relieve some of the pressure on the subways.

I.e. five docks on each side just for williamsburg. Obv there are other docks.

subway transfer would be a nice start but still those ferries are seasonal and not super cost effective for the amount of people they're moving

how many of those well-heeled burgers are gonna wait for a ferry outside for 15 minutes in the snow

Hmm, maybe a Williamsburg Bridge express bus then. Not that it would be very "express" in morning traffic, but as someone who does the Graham to Union Square ride every day I can't see how the fuck the L is going to accommodate the even more commmuters who may/may not move into all those bldgs around McCarren that aren't already full. Maybe some will find their way to the M.

the bigger solution is just to upzone around transit lines w/ capacity instead of around what neighborhoods are hot. not that there's a ton of room to build in Brooklyn regardless I guess.

also to build more subway lines

Not that I know the details of it, but I would guess this is partly a byproduct of having a weird city transit authority that is a creature of the state instead of the city, i.e. planning/zoning and transit are probably not as well coordinated? Really don't know though, it's a guess.

Yeah, more lines for sure. At least the area around the area/downtown has a shitton of subways so it actually makes some sense to have higher density there.

nah this kinda shit is poorly planned throughout the country. it's an america problem more than a ny problem.

Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Subway Conducting

OH yeah, that Q&A is awesome. Been recommending the full version (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/kx5fa/iama_new_york_city_transit_subway_conductor_ama/) to everyone!
Mole People/"police investigation" code/why is the C train so old?? etc.
You can ignore the "protesters should just get jobs" part at the end though!

Anyone have any thoughts on what times are better on L morning commutes? It seems like leaving a little later (getting on the train @9am or after) helps, but i can't always leave that late. What's the earliest things get unbearably crowded?

maybe look at the city-wide commute time distribution for NYC and the l schedule. but beyond 'later is always better' i dunno what you'd find.

or just bike to work? I dunno I feel for you but there's no easy solution. how far are you from the g?

I tried to take the D from Borough Park to LES this morning. I got to the 50 St station but there were no Manhattan-bound trains running, so everyone had to take it two stops and transfer to the northbound train at 62 St. Except once everyone got off there the construction workers told us trains weren't stopping there either, so everyone got back on the next southbound, and I wasn't sure what to do so I just got off at 20 Ave and sure enough there's no trains to Manhattan here, either, and the person in the booth told me I had to just stay on the train until it got to Coney Island and looped around.

What the fuck is going on? Why am I sitting on a train platform in Bensonhurst instead of eating DUMPLINGS! at Vanessa's?

Rerouted trains are the norm at any time other than rush hours. Wage slaves gotta get to work, what else is New York for these days?

Oh okay so apparently there are no northbound trains AT ALL on the D tracks between 36 St and Stillwell Av. That's, like, 14 stations. Apparently I was supposed to leave the 62 St station and transfer to the New Utrecht Av N station. THANKS FOR THE CLEAR SIGNAGE, MTA.

The N and D trains in Brooklyn have been out of whack for some reason the past few weeks ... I work in Borough Park, and half the time there's some bizarre transfer, stopped train, or other mildly irritating inconvenience. I wonder what's going on.

http://www.streetsblog.org/2011/10/24/who-killed-transit-on-the-new-tappan-zee-feds-and-state-dot-wont-say/

this saga is pretty tragic

Rockland county is shit for any public trans

bloomie apparently gonna actually push for 7 to jersey

Wife says some guy told her L isn't running - anyone know if that's true?

nm apparently resumed

robert caro endorses jsk: http://www.observer.com/2011/11/janette-sadik-khan-is-o-k-in-robert-caros-book/

there are def problems w/ taking the comparison too far - closing down times sq + adding bike lanes vs. turning like half of new york city into freeways and housing projects. nobody can really be the new robert moses! okay I'm not doing her justice, but her legacy will be a lot more about changing the philosophy here than anything else.

map of abandoned stations and unbuilt lines

The L train is so nice at holiday times when everyone is away.

Eventually with the pace of construction in Williamsburg the thing is just going to be bonkers.

I saw that thing...I'm not sure what criteria they're using for inclusion in their map. seems kinda sloppy?

missing most of the IND second system stuff, which are the most interesting 'what if' lines

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/1929_IND_Second_System.jpg

http://transportationnation.org/2012/01/11/a-whole-new-york-city-borough-gets-real-time-bus-information/

That is so cool!!! I could have used that option at 8.15 this morning when I waited for a local bus that never came.

I could have used that option every time I've ever waited for a new york city bus and it didn't come when it was supposed to, which is every time.

Unfair. The buses usually run really well ime!