the historical implications of lil wayne's current popularity

fyi not listened to TN in what seems over 10 years, forgot he existed.

"Where is that coming from?"

Juggalos?

tn came up in an underground that still bought records and still (to some extent) does. lil b is a creature of the internet in every way. his lack of sales is just "web phenom who gives shit away for free by the assload cant turn publicity into actual sales" part whatthefuckever.

Love this thread title.

tech n9ne has been selling mad records for a while now

tech n9ne also tours places that no rapper would ever dream of stepping foot in. like helena, montana

he basically tours constantly, and does it in flyover country

I work in an environment in which I'm constantly exposed to top 40 radio against my will (student common areas, rec centers, pep rallies, etc), and Adele, Wayne, LMFAO, and Katy Perry are played non stop along with recurrents like "Empire State of Mind" and the two big 2010 Eminem singles. The rub is no one is passionate about any of them except Adele and Katy Perry. Last year I couldn't find a single student who admitted to liking the Em singles even a little bit yet there they were -- huge and ubiquitous, like A/C units in South Florida. For most people, depending on where they're exposed, music really is boutique ambience (i.e. gyms are loud, therefore "Love The Way You Lie" is perfect).

with the exception of the shitty santi white 2008 ca$h-in, the Beasties album is basically a fucking Rammellzzee album for old, weird heads dude. You're like 18 so I'll give you a pass tho

Today the student on staff who most likes hip-hop -- a Colombian whose favorite current artists are J. Cole and Lupe and who's cutting his own album lol -- loves "She Will"; thinks it's Wayne's best since the mid nineties mix tape days. On the other hand he despises "How to Love," "A Milli," and "Lollipop." I guess I'm asking -- who's buying this stuff if no one's passionate about it?

your sample size is small

dude sells out like 30 arenas a year (including in south florida!) -- there are plenty of ppl that are passionate about him

30 is prob conservative too

eh 47,000 student university -- it's a bitch to interview everyone.

i dont know anybody who's passionate about two and half men* but it seems to be doing aight

*except for scott seward

ok but are there other undie guys pulling numbers like TN?

you can go to a concert and not be passionate about the performer -- I do it all the time!

if in doubt blame seward

kids i student-taught last year loved wayne; he was the standard/elder statesman figure for good rapping to them.

Tech N9ne is basically in a scene of one. He built his own enormous fan base grass-roots stylee to the point where people like Yelawof and Busta are coming to HIM. He's like the KISS of rap.

mine still love Jay-Z and Kanye; can't convince them that Kanye sucks.

an interesting corollary to this is that wayne really doesn't get enough credit for being the earliest adopters of drake & nicki minaj. you could argue that those three are the biggest stars in rap/r&b right now. it's been such a huge boon to wayne's longevity and career that the other two have been mega successful. and that's aside from getting whatever cut of their earnings.

remember when it was a such a huge deal when jay was made president of def jam? did he have one success on par with either drake or minaj?

Tech N9ne is basically in a scene of one. He built his own enormous fan base grass-roots stylee to the point where people like Yelawof and Busta are coming to HIM. He's like the KISS of rap.

― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, September 2, 2011 4:39 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

remember when it was a such a huge deal when jay was made president of def jam? did he have one success on par with either drake or minaj?

lol you idiot

what

how about Rihanna and Kanye West for starters?

he didn't give a shit about kanye!

he was literally the first person to give a shit about kanye

my reading of the situation is that kanye pretty much forced his way into a recording contract w/ the roc & that before then they would continually clown his rapping

yeah i am pretty sure if anyone is responsible for carter its the fake father of beyonces child

carter/kanye

i forgot about rihanna

and there's ross and jeezy, too i guess.

but still

but still?

& anyway from a business standpoint, i'd consider kanye's superstardom an incredible stroke of luck for jay-z

drake & nicki are currently more popular than ross or jeezy have ever been

dude, he was on like four jay-z albums before College Dropout.

you're fucking backpedaling to cover up your dumb statement

Kanye, Ross, Rihanna, Jeezy, Ne-Yo vs like Drake, Nicki and the GUDDA GUDDA grocery bag who gives a shit all-stars

gudda gudda is still better than lady sovereign

i mean i know we have to give Lil Chuckee time to grow

my point with kanye is that jay obviously was an early adopter of his as a producer, but it's a stroke of luck for him that he turned out to be a mega pop star and not just some guy like bink

Yeah sorry Jay got in on the ground floor instead of adopting Lil Wayne's genius CEO tactic of waiting for a soap opera star to have a million MySpace followers before finding his phone number. What a stroke of luck.

lol

haha

i do think that j0rdan has a point tho abt wayne's continued popularity benefiting from drake/nicki.

wayne is 29, carter IV is his ninth album

jay's ninth album was kingdom come, he was 37 when that dropped

i think ur giving too much credit to wayne for minaj & drake. he jumped on when they were already ascendant

i said that, but funnier

Also, on the recent Wayne tour it was evident that Nicki and Drake were still def opening for HIM.

for drake he sort of did. i'm pretty sure that minaj was pretty much an unknown when she appeared on drought 3

for scandinavian goth-metal band HIM

I'm still like a kid, because unfortunately my childhood was raped away from me because I became a star

huh

why you rape away lil wayne's childhood like that

birdman did what?

Like, people watch commercials, and they're like, "Who's gonna buy that?" I'm the person they make the commercials for. I watch them, and I'm like, "Oh God, that's awesome."

I'm not a star, somebody raped

http://fashionably-early.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/lil-wayne-face-tattoo.jpg

ever since you got them titties you
talkin bout you thinkin bout some ass shots
takin all these snapshots different backdrops

dedication 6 sounds good

I'm pretty far from a hip hop expert but he is my favorite rapper I've ever heard. Da Drought 3 being his pinnacle.

So is this album, possibly, really good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWsL43lj5QM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft4UN-Dd8_s