People Who Live In Suburbs: Classy, Icky, or Dudes?

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xp: iatee, don't take me seriously. I'm only hoping for lols, not trump cards. I actually believe in living in apartments mixed-use developments and was as recently as this morning fantasizing about developing a high-rise with all that lotto money I'm going to get this weekend. But until then, it's home ownership and making fun of stuck-up city folk.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

But also, people should be allowed to like their suburban homes and lawns and nature and sunshine without being called "republicans".

kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Mars sounds really great until you calculate the posting lag. There would always be new answers on the active thread! You'd never get to actually post.

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

But also, people should be allowed to like their suburban homes and lawns and nature and sunshine without being called "republicans".

I am sure the Republicans who like their suburban homes and lawns and nature and sunshine would be very annoyed with this statement.

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Funny how it gets turned into people having "incorrect" desires rather than cities being "incorrect" for not being able to address those desires.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

brb, gotta go tell henry that he has to go to the glue factory because the mean people on the internet said we shouldnt have a lawn

let me save you some time - yes, you are probably anti-semantic (jjjusten), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

You could just let him do his business right there on the floor like cityfolk do.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

oh yay thread is reactionary again i.e. granny dainger is here

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

it's a pretty shitty thread anyway. happy 9/11 everyone

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

you must be from the suburbs

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

very sensitive

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

How about instead of reading "incorrect" desires we read this as "community features we feel are detrimental or undesirable." I've had conversations with people where they see nothing wrong with having no walkable resources, feel a row of big box stores next to the freeway makes a lot of sense, and so on. I'd say a lot of people here bring a lot of opinions and experiences to the table that make these seem detrimental, but it's condescending to assume others are idiots or have an entire swath of political ideas you dislike because they accept these things.

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of people have dogs in the city fyi

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

also can i just be clear, i dont think anyone is "correct" or "incorrect" for their "desires," i just think that the human race will die if we dont all move to new hampshire

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

xp: and they never pick up after them!

kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

there are dogs that need lots of room and constant exercise fyi

let me save you some time - yes, you are probably anti-semantic (jjjusten), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

like yeah you could have a siberian husky in the city, if you wanted to own a miserable dog i suppose

let me save you some time - yes, you are probably anti-semantic (jjjusten), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

lock thread after PP's horse picture

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

if you wanna ride

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh yeah I had a neighbor at our apartment in Virginia who had TWO great big huskies in his apartment. It was like, "WTF is wrong dude buy a pug or bichon or some other toy breed."

Balonious Monk (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno i see a lot big dogs, they seem p happy, obv i am not a dog shrink or whatever, i probably wouldnt have a dog in the city, "we need to take care of dogs" is a pretty bad reason to allow the rapid extinction of the human race tho

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

maybe theres a way we could all share like a couple big lawns and some trees and nature shit that the dogs could also use

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

dunno just spitballin here

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

But also, people should be allowed to like their suburban homes and lawns and nature and sunshine without being called "republicans".
--kkvgz

again there's this idea that somewhere I said "everyone who lives in or moves to the burbs today is a white republican." that's pretty obviously false tho it's funny that your arguments against it are like 'Arlington va!' I think a fairly large % people move/live in the suburbs because there simply aren't affordable/viable alternatives. that's not due a law of nature, it's due to political decisions over generations and path dependency and, ultimately, a certain brand of American libertarianism.

also 'people in suburbs just love nature so much they can't live without it' is like 'animal lovers just love animals so much that they can't help eating them.' if you love nature, you care more about your effects on it than your proximity to it. lawns are not nature, they're a form of pseudo nature that has an incredibly destructive effect on the natural world.

iatee, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

due to*

iatee, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Dude, I was talking about proximity to like state parks and shit.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

I am not living in a suburb that is next to shit

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry we destroyed the natural world.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2647700969_2c207ef0c8_z.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

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10-9-8...

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

iatee luv ya bro but you really have no idea why people live in suburbs. all of your theories about it serve your pre-conceived notions.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

I could see a better argument made for people to stop eating meat and saving the natural world than yards being a feature in a place with 1000/sq. mile population density.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

afaict from this thread ppl move to suburbs to

  • have dogs
  • have lawns
  • drive to grocery stores

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

One day, ppl itt will learn to understand the difference between WE SHOULDNT LIVE IN CITIES BECAUSE DOGS, BRO and IF YOU LIVE IN A SMALL CITY APARTMENT, DON'T HAVE A GREAT BIG DOG BUT IF YOU HAVE LIKE 2,000 SQ FT AND A PARK NEARBY IT'S COOL.

One day.

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Balonious Monk (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

anyway I mostly post stuff to this thread for people like max and dayo and laurel to read not to retroll the rest of yall

and really anyone who's defending how the richest nation in human history ended up spending its resources on miles after miles of prefab suburbs and strip malls has already been trolled...by...uh...society

iatee, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

the automobile is the highest expression of personal freedom fuiud

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's probably fair to say that people didn't have the first clue about the environmental impacts when this shit got started. I mean, they're there! Whatcha gonna do? Bulldoze them?

Many of the most recent developments that I've seen in my area are suburban clusters of townhomes. So that's a smaller footprint. I think things are going to start trending towards highrises soon enough.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

My understanding is that big dogs are less hyper and can make do w/fewer walks. There seems to be plenty in my hood and they seem ok.

get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

the automobile is the highest expression of personal freedom fuiud

So terrestrial! You need a hover pod/submarine/spacecraft, bro.

get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

so what's the consensus on people who live in exurbs?

the wheelie king (wk), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

oh, you mean klan members?

goole, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

klantastic

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

it's klanastrophic.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

urban klanning

dayo, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

urban klanning

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, I just looked it up and I think I was talking about exurbs this whole time.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

goddamn iPhone

max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

urban klann- oh dammit

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

not sure which definition of exurb that is, but nice punning

the wheelie king (wk), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

<3

the wheelie-suitcase of the sky plus WITH SPIKED BARBS (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link


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