I HATE APPLE

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i wish there was a better email client out there

sparrow is sweet but doesn't have "smart mailboxes"

mail is cliunky and nasty but "smart mailboxes" can be amazing if you use them right

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

the way i explained it to someone else was that chrome feels like being on the internet, everything else is like looking at the internet through a tiny porthole

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

I just got a ssd in my work computer.

Now, it feels like I'm using a computer at work, and everything else seems like some sort of floppy-using retro junk

mh, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

im a dedicated apple app user between mail and ichat and itunes and what have you, but i switched to chrome 6 months ago and havent looked back. the reloading-a-tab-when-you-return thing is insanely frustrating in iOS especially when you want to look at a page you already have open when youre in the subway or something

max, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Basically it's behavior that it does instead of just closing the tab for you. Which sucks, but it really stresses to me what limited memory my first gen iPad has.

mh, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

huh, guess I should give Chrome a try; I haven't noticed Safari in OS X getting in the way, but maybe I just don't see what a browser could do (I find Firefox clunky looking---dig the font rendering in Safari).

on iOS I agree that stupid reloading of webpage bites

Euler, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

chrome extensions are pretty bad ass

max, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

I went off Chrome when it stopped playing Quicktime files natively without butthurting about insecure plugins. And the full-screen mode's rubbish.

Tracer: There are no smart mailboxes on the phone, though. What about making a separate gmail account for mailing lists? Gmail's threading makes it brilliant for lists.

Basically it's behavior that it does instead of just closing the tab for you. Which sucks, but it really stresses to me what limited memory my first gen iPad has.

Totally unnecessary, though. iCab, for instance, doesn't do it -- it caches pages on disk. This is all basically a legacy of a really bad decision early on in the webkit days that it wouldn't cache rendered pages as browsers had until then, but would cache resources. This is also responsible for that "to go back you need to resubmit a form" nonsense, which is a) stupid and b) actually against the http standard.

stet, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

Have gone back to Chrome for a look. I had to kill -9 it from Terminal before it would lancuh and the highlight on the tabs seems to be fucked, so it's not starting well.

stet, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

i deleted all of my buddies in ichat because i wanted to reorganize it and somehow nuked my entire address book on my computer, phone and ipad.

is that usual?

also it seems like if you're syncing all of that stuff with mobileme you can't use time machine to go back to an older version of your address book?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 8 September 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I was keeping a ridiculous number of contact backups for a while after playing around with letting Google Contact handle things, having misconfigurations stomp over things, or having facebook on mobile applying the wrong pictures/links to contacts after I tried that feature.

mh, Thursday, 8 September 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

so this is weird: ~/Library/Services has been deleted? and not by me? and now LaunchBar chokes on stuff? wtf

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Thursday, 8 September 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

chrome extensions are pretty bad ass

this.

it kinda sucks w/ fonts a little, but idk, deal with it.

science you guys (Clay), Thursday, 8 September 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

safari was being a horrible memory hog for me on my 4-yr-old laptop too

max, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

chrome doesn't autofill the address bar for me so I sacked it

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

yeah thats a big weakness for me too, but everything else outweighs it

max, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

like search from the address bar!

max, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

you know IE does search from the address bar now, right

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

~downloads camino~

♪ ♫ my baby SBs all day ♫ ♪ (cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

yes, thats whats going to get me back on IE, search from the address bar

max, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

it's kind of hilarious, IE 8 is basically Chrome reverse-engineered

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

we just need the hipsters to adopt IE8 and then it will be cool again

dayo, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

The two things that are stopping me moving wholesale from FF to Chrome are 1. lack of a properly effective NoScript extension and 2. never getting around to building up my extension library. I'm pretty particular about this stuff, e.g. AdBlock is stocked to within an inch of its life with rules, hidden elements, etc.

idg why anyone uses Safari (Mac) for anything when there's always something better (unless you really really care about acid tests).

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

I discovered that in lion you can do two finger forward and back in safari

dayo, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

maybe you can do that in SL too, maybe bush did 9/11

dayo, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

Safari is the best at Mac-integration. Syncs with iOS, three-finger tap on word and ctrl-alt-d, all the gestures, best font rendering, etc. plenty of reasons to use it.

stet, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

I've tried other browsers and I prefer Safari, but since updating the latest version it's been out of wack. I have more than enough memory so that can't be the problem.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

When I get the chance I'm going to dig out my old script that runs the tab-on-top build of safari with the latest webkit engine. Killer browser.

stet, Thursday, 8 September 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

haha why do you hate fun

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

so i has iphone question:
i've been living in the dark ages for the last few years and still have a super-cheap-o phone with no data or anything.
a friend gave me his old G3 and i've been debating weather or not i should even bother getting a plan for it. everyone i know that is still using a g3 is complaining about how slow it's been getting. wondering if i should wait until g5 is out and get a discounted g4 or maybe splurge on a g5...

just wondering if it's worth the bother of getting a new plan for this thing or if i should just wait. how slow is the g3 for everyone here?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 9 September 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

wait you have an iphone 3g or 3gs?

I would wait until the new iphone 5 - the iphone 4 will likely be discounted to 'budget option' status and you could pick one up for maybe $50 or $100 with contract.

dayo, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

is anyone on a "family plan" w/ two iphones? my girlfriend and i are probably both gonna get iphones 5 in october, is there a deal on data or is it a thing where we share minutes/texts but have to be on individual data plans?

max, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

the latter IIRC, let me check

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Friday, 9 September 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I think the second, I'm on my cousins family plan but I still pay for my data plan ($15 for 200mb a month, there is a $25 option for 2 gigs a month)

if you get iphone 5s at a subsidized price though that means you are probably locked into a new 2 year contract on their terms

dayo, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

kk: shared minutes and texts, separate data plans

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Friday, 9 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

dayo the correct nomenclature is iphones 5

max, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

hahah

dayo, Friday, 9 September 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

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TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 September 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

wtf, I have been putting off bumping my MBP to 8GB of ram due to laziness and not feeling like spending cash, but it's only $50 for that! ordered.

mh, Monday, 12 September 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

oh really? I'm not even sure if mine supports it - have they added universal support under Lion?

dayo, Monday, 12 September 2011 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=664H5FQPCCk&feature=related

kind of mad I talked my wife out of the Air now

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Monday, 12 September 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

bought a replacement apple express last week. got a free wireless router from virgin in interim.

would apple give me a refund on the airport?

is it hrostep? (cozen), Monday, 12 September 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, if you've got the receipt and box

stet, Monday, 12 September 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

aces

is it hrostep? (cozen), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

i hear there is an express update coming soon. i have a line on an early 2011 airport express for $60.

how important is this next update? should i ask for less? should i just go for it right now?

how well does airport extreme + express + stereo work these days? i haven't had an airport since 2009 (ex-wife got the airports) but i recall not being able to stream music to the airport and use the internet at the same time. is that worked out yet?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely works fine for me. I have a Time Capsule (extreme) and can stream to both an old express and an app etc at the same time while web browsing

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 03:59 (twelve years ago) link

refund get

apple assistant entered "buyer's remorse" as the reason on her return doohickey

is it hrostep? (cozen), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link


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