I HATE APPLE

wheres my iphone5?

Lion. 2010 MBP battery life continues to be fucking disgusting and I could fry an egg on the base. Firefox (Flash?) and Reeder keep forcing it into discrete graphics mode for some reason.

don't use firefox!

If I close absolutely everything I get 10 hours. Ideally then I can't blame Lion BUT this never ever happened on 10.6.

10 hours is.... quite a lot?

... amazin?

Yes but I was getting 3–4 with stuff open.

I barely got 3 from my first MacBook w/nothing open.

seriously!

Yeah, I seriously wouldn't be complaining about 3-4 hours of battery on a MBP! But agreed that Firefox has become a useless piece of crap since the upgrade. I've been using Safari more these days because it's more usable, but I still don't like it very much. (For example I click on the drop-down bookmark folders in the bar and it sometimes takes three or four clicks to activate them.)

chrome is really the shit these days

i hate that it doesn't do password auto-complete, though. You have to type in the username and *then* it adds the passwords. I'm always forgetting my usernames, so I prefer it just to fill as soon as the form laods.

3-4 with 6 or 7 applications open is all ive ever gotten from my mac laptops

chrome does p'word autocomplete for me! on some sites, at least... some times i wont remember the pword no matter what. but yeah chrome is the best--less of a memory hog than safari, plus greater customizability

sometimes it* wont remember the pword or username

the best advantage safari has is the address bar autocomplete

oh, I wonder if this is sites where I have stored multiple passwords? Safari always chooses one in that case.

i dont really hate apple but i have my first date with the genius bar saturday afternoon because new 4s is stuck on the apple logo

AA, I used to get 5-6 hours under normal work, 8-10 just playing music with the screen off on my 2010 MBP. now it's 2011 and i get 3-4. i haven't upgraded to lion (because lol it is a pointless upgrade). that's pretty normal deterioration of battery life. are you sure this is was new with lion and not just because your mbp battery is now > 1 year old?

lion is awesome fuiud

it's worth it for the sandboxed security model alone

are you sure this is was new with lion and not just because your mbp battery is now > 1 year old?

Yeah, it dropped like a stone the day I installed Lion and never came back. I don't use the battery enough for it to have deteriorated that quickly over 15 months.

I'm only sticking with Firefox for a couple of plugins that don't have proper Chrome equivalents.

Lithium Ion Batteries age irrespective of how often you discharge them, in fact it is worse to keep them fully charged than at ~40% state of charge than full if they are not cycled.

You should run them all the way dead a couple times a month.

Really, it sounds to me like one of the cells in your battery died around the same time you installed Lion.

and I could fry an egg on the base

also my iphone-ipad tethering is fucked in ios5, but I'll give them a chance to fix that

Yeah, it dropped like a stone the day I installed Lion and never came back. I don't use the battery enough for it to have deteriorated that quickly over 15 months.

maybe it wasn't lion, but re: how often you use your battery, as ed says, batteries do not work that way.

sigh

forget it

Buckled, ditched Firefuck for Chrome, installed ScriptNo + AdBlock Element Hiding Helper, closed Reeder, now reliably getting 5–7 hrs battery. Sliding between full-screen apps still hits the battery but it's better than the shit I was getting before.

I am guessing that I am somewhere between three and six days away from the birth of a long-lasting anti-Mozilla tirade

I've installed Chrome for everyone in our office. It's the only browser worth using on OSX right now.

There are minor niggles but the trade-off is 40% less battery time so

It's the only browser worth using on OSX right now.

as a recent convert to opera, might i suggest

developing on a ipad http://yieldthought.com/post/12239282034/swapped-my-macbook-for-an-ipad

that sounds a lot like he's just using the ipad as a monitor - all the work is being done on the remote server.

yup. "Look I replaced my MacBook with a VT220"

guys sometimes he swipes using his fingers, baby steps, lets all be cool

that article is actually about developing in the CLOUD, yall got misled by his shiny ipad

i really do think theres a meaningful ipad aspect to the story, like its ipadness

artisanal ipad meaningfully connecting u to a heritage brooklyn cloud

©

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/05/us/david-gelernter-discusses-patent-claim-against-apple.html

lol

Cloud fucking rules [/obvious]

Cloud will rule harder when iwork syncs to macs as well

I would think that'll be another major Mac OS revision in the future, when they figure out how to finally stop exposing the filesystem to users or something.

iWork already syncs to Macs, they just don't expose it in TW apps because the file formats arent compatible. You can find the files in yr Library folder, but they're useless.

*the

Somebody's having a go at replacing iTunes: http://www.enqueueapp.com/

I bet they hate apple

they must hate apple...they don't support playlist folders yet.

quick first experience...it's not choking on my library like iTunes does. It's fast. Light on features so far but a good start.