People Who Live In Suburbs: Classy, Icky, or Dudes?

Side query: how well-traveled are you, iatee?

not super, lived in and seen a good part of europe but never been to east asia/africa/south america. mostly just cause I've never had a lot of money to burn, feel like travel is the best thing you can do if you it.

if you have it*

and you complain about OUR carbon footprints

LOL

Maybe he sailed across the Atlantic.

no I agree plane travel is indefensible and should be taxed to hell

I think you're on a roll but you need to tone it back a little to make it less obvious

way overpriced, crappy independent grocer

Overpriced compared to what, though

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:21 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Well, compared to regular bigger supermarkets and Trader Joe's, certainly, but also compared to other independent grocers like the produce or meat markets in various ethnic neighborhoods (they're small supermarkets, but they specialize in produce or meat).

A factor in their higher prices is probably their disadvantage in buying and distribution - though they are member of a regional wholesale network - but I wonder if the bigger reason might be related to their being on really expensive property.

Anyway, $6.50 for a box of cereal is about the norm there, and that considerably more than you would pay at any other grocery store in town.

$6.50 for a box of cereal is about the norm there

o_O

By mail order with shipping and handling included?

A gallon of milk ($4.50)
Cereal and a blow-job ($6.50)
Plastic bowl and spork ($1.50)

Smug superiority: Priceless

Who is being smug?

I'm not saying that $6.50 is the mean price there, but that's what chocolate Cheerios cost the other day when I didn't buy them, and comparable cereals cost about the same.

Cereal and a blow-job ($6.50)

The free toys have gotten way better since when I was a kid.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iI2eqAZ0q6I7ym72GvpK1rz773cQ?docId=CNG.947744aa7f2a9543ab7c4b0e24b9136c.81

The small bubble-shaped Bluecars were designed by legendary Italian coachbuilder Pininfarina

SIGN ME UP.

what else has pininfarina designed beside bubblecars and ferraris?

http://www.passportmagazine.com/blog/uploads/843526-0-20111003035854.jpeg

Porches, Jaguars, Alfa Romeos. They also had a lot of influence on some early Volkswagons, Kharmann Ghias...I'm not sure if it was a former designer or someone moonlighting or what, may not have been the official design house, but the lines are def there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pininfarina#Notable_car_designs

?

the pininfarina collective

I get confused because there's a design house but also a person to whom a lot of the iconic designs are attributed to

tbh design houses are kind of a "head guy tells people broad strokes, accepts or vetoes their work, stuff goes out the door with his name on it" sort of thing

same with big time music producers, really

design farm

iirc Peter Saville, on the graphic design end of things, can't use Photoshop

are you saying timbaland didn't have a personal hand in all of his beats especially ones he's done in the 00s?

hehe

I think the service will do very well in paris (haven't looked into the costs) esp. since there's already a strong bike-share culture and this will be seen as a complement to that

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/asia-pacific/chinas-giant-deserted-malls-wait-for-reluctant-consumers/article2188199/

I thought of this thread many times while I was in Vegas; it seems like they are attempting to turn the strip into a concentrated urban living space filled with gigantic hotel and residential buildings with certified 5-star LEED ratings.

vegas is a strange place, a significant % of people already live in apartments but the streetscape is pretty horrible and just walking across the street is extremely unpleasant. the strip is super walkable in some ways, but the actual street-street is as bad as it gets. but it's a city that can be reformed in some interesting ways tho unfortunately it will always be in the middle of the desert, so,

I think a lot of the strip residential buildings are like, time-share / 'I have a place in vegas' type things and are not priced for workers on the strip. I think you could turn a lot of the hotels into apartments one day.

Off-strip housing is pretty cheap in LV now! The real estate market crashed so hard.

yeah I have friends who have been trying to sell their house for years now. they had been planning to move to Washington and just had the worst timing possible.

I've got an internet buddy from Vegas who posts these ritzy rat pack/"Casino" places for sale on the market for $150,000.

And there are a lot of 'em.

sadly none of those are in CityCenter

lol citycenter

electric bills are probably a motherfucker out there.

It's just down the road from one of the largest hydroelectric plants in the country!

how much is a water bill out in these places (desert communities)? the same as everywhere else or...?

i ask this because a while ago i swear i read that Phoenix water bills were very low (less than even water rich states).

You know, I've never lived anywhere with a water bill, not even growing up. How much are water bills??

Obviously I've lived in many places with "city water," but never anywhere where I or my family got a bill for it.

Ours in the Little Rock metro is $32 a month. That's water and sewer, according to the bill.

Oh, so it doesn't vary depending on how much you use? My parents had a water bill when they lived in Michigan, but I can't remember if it was metered.

They lived way out in the middle of nowhere, but they had municipal water and county trash pick up. The trash service was paid for by their taxes. Michigan is a state with a fuckload of problems, but I've never known anywhere else with better public services, and public schools. The schools were great in a lot of ways, but the biggie for me was: They provide free paper! It still blows my mind a little.

(done digressing, sorry)

My friends from Michigan were appalled to learn that free paper is not the norm around the country.

(I lied, I wasn't done digressing.)

We have electric/water/sewer/trash combined in one -- ranges from $150 in the winter to $350 in the summer.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2011/10/suburban-sprawl-ponzi-scheme/242/

I'm liking this atlanticcities site

Pasadena, CA charges me a connection fee of $14/mo and a usage rate of $1.63 per HCF. I used 5 HCF over the past 2 months (they bill bi-monthly), but I'm the guy with the dead lawn.