Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Yeah Spotify doesn't post anything to my Facebook as far as I can see, even though it is connected to my FB account.

psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

so for 100K plays, the artist receives ... $29.00 (0.00029 per stream). the label receives ... $160.00 (0.0016 per stream). no artists or labels are getting rich from spotify, regardless of how shrewd or tough they are in negotiating deals with the service.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

OTOH this guy claims €0.004 per stream: http://www.spotidj.com/blog/?p=264

Though I thought that Spotify royalty rates weren't fixed, and that artists on major labels got more than those on indies?

psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

it's a gold mine. all you need to do is get your song streamed 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

there are a LOT of ways artists/labels collect royalties besides sales (radio, TV, performance at live venues). there's no reason streaming should be any different or should produce a huge income to justify its existence as a legal source of revenue.

some dude, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link

i use spotify all the time

markers, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

you, personally, are providing a living wage to indie artists across america.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol :)

markers, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

Big discrepancies with the numbers here! This Billboard article claims that the typical interactive royalty rate is between a half cent and one cent per stream:

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/news/e3iecb83415cefdd2b0a43399437dff3e5f

timellison, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

I think I've got exactly one FB friend with that setting turned on. I was wondering why he saw fit to recommend all that stuff.

When I Stop Meming (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

half of the links about royalty rates people have been posting are from like 2009 and 2010, well before Spotify launched in the U.S. -- i'm sure the rate has and will continue to change

some dude, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

and that it's not the same in the U.S. as it is in the U.K. even taking into account exchange rates

some dude, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

will soon be 0.000029 per stream.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link

otoh if you stream music you've already purchased before (i'm on a netbook without local music files ~75% of the time), it's a tiny stream of bonus money going to artists you like.

FLAWLESS STANCE, ATHLETIC BEAST, WINNER'S POSTURE (reddening), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I do that as well.

When I Stop Meming (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

The Stevie Wonder poll, all by itself, will buy him a pack of gum.

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

i remember reading that spotify had ~750,000 users at some point recently. im guessing they're hoping they can make this 750 million within the next few years. 750 million people paying a £10 monthly subsription to stream music and share it with their friends, if managed properly, would do a lot of good for the industry imo.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

i hate file management so i have no desire to download music
My thoughts, exactly. I sit in front of a company computer for ten hours every day. They wouldn't be thrilled about me downloading and saving albums on their machine.
Spotify boosts my listening library at work exponentially. And it's fun to make and share playlists.
I just tried to edit the post settings in my fb apps, I hope it works.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

If you have your Spotify account connected to your Facebook, it now posts updates of every song you listen to on your news feed. It seems like there's no way to only turn this feature off.

http://lifehacker.com/5843847/how-to-keep-spotify-from-broadcasting-your-music-taste-to-all-of-facebook

I actually quite like this feature and enjoy being able to lol at my friends trying to listen to the Kooks in private.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

I sit in front of a company computer for ten hours every day. They wouldn't be thrilled about me downloading and saving albums on their machine.

That is exactly what Spotify does. It also uploads them to other users in your area requesting the same tracks.

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://lifehacker.com/5843847/how-to-keep-spotify-from-broadcasting-your-music-taste-to-all-of-facebook

I actually quite like this feature and enjoy being able to lol at my friends trying to listen to the Kooks in private.

― Upt0eleven, Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:24 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh thanks i am definitely doing this!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, I listen to music for a significant portion of my work day and spotify has been a very convenient way to keep an influx of new stuff going while I'm away from my personal music stash.

facebook news is supremely irritating tho.

original bgm, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

Editing it from the apps worked for me fwiw

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.themusicvoid.com/2011/10/the-awkward-unanswered-questions-that-led-to-coldplay%E2%80%99s-spotify-embargo/

So if more big acts do this spotify is fucked.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 31 October 2011 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

it links to http://paidcontent.org/article/419-the-awkward-unanswered-questions-that-led-to-coldplays-spotify-embargo/ (dont worry the article is all there)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 31 October 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

loads of stuff has been removed since it went live in the US, all tzadik seems to have gone for example :'(

Crackle Box, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, really disappointing with the way things continue to trend.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

in the not too distant future... no dance music, no new releases, no big hits, only major label stuff that's stopped selling on itunes

still worth it for the classical and jazz if you're into that, but ehhhh. my spotify evangelising is over

Crackle Box, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

And yet loads of new stuff is added every day afaict. It's hard to keep a count, but there's probably been about 150 new albums from this year alone that I've been interested in enough to check out at least once.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

i'm still finding more stuff on grooveshark these days
:-/

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

Well, yeah, I won't argue that more and more new stuff is being added, but I'm finding that a lot of it doesn't really align with my tastes.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah -- "more" in my case means "more of what i want to hear"

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

My biggest problem with both grooveshark and spotify is that, as of right now, I can't wirelessly connect either to my Airport.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

what you need is airfoil? have you tried that? works for me.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

sounds move magically from outer space to the speakers of my 1993 college stereo in the other room
it is amazing

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, I do need that, I'd just been hoping to find a free option before I ponied up the $25 - but it seems like my best option at this point.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

The spotify app has been bad recently. It will hang and crash every time I start it and make me login again. Reconsidering my subscription. Which is a shame because I've listened to it a lot.

Jeff, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

iPhone app eventually creates huge data footprint even if I have hardly anything set to offline access so I have to delete it every once in a while and redownload it.

Mayne of Fules (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

The spotify app has been bad recently. It will hang and crash every time I start it and make me login again. Reconsidering my subscription. Which is a shame because I've listened to it a lot.

― Jeff, den 31 oktober 2011 15:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you mean the desktop app? i've had the same problems. getting kinda bored with this.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

No, iPhone app. Haven't had issues (yet) with the desktop app.

Jeff, Monday, 31 October 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15524852

Virgin Media has released the details of its promised partnership with the Spotify music service.

New customers buying Virgin's 30Mbps or faster broadband package in the UK will receive six months of free access to Spotify's premium service.

Existing subscribers will get the same offer when they renew their contracts.

Experts believe the bundle will help Spotify compete against Apple's iTunes music store, and other streaming services such as Deezer.

Spotify Premium usually costs £9.99 a month. Spotify claimed musicians will also benefit.

"Telecoms companies moving into the music space increases revenue streams to the music industry and provides benefits for fans and artists alike," said Andreas Liffgarden, Spotify's global head of telecom business development.

Virgin Media said it will also waive related data charges for Virgin Mobile customers using the offer.

Customers who take up the deal can listen to an unlimited number of music tracks, including exclusive content, on either their computer or mobile handsets.

Virgin Media says it also plans to let owners of its Tivo video recorders stream Spotify's music directly to their television sets at some point in the future.
Competition

The announcement comes a month after the French streaming music provider, Deezer, announced a similar tie-up with the mobile network Orange.

"It helps the firms automatically boost their subscription numbers overnight," said Chris Cooke, business editor at the CMU music news service.

"One would assume that both may be looking to sell out or float their stock at some point in the future, and this will build confidence."

Spotify may also benefit from the opportunity to reach an older audience than it typically appeals to, especially if the new users take out a subscription once the promotion period ends.

However, previous efforts to link music and telecoms packages have not always proven fruitful.

BSkyB closed its music service, Sky Songs, at the end of last year. It said it had been "unable to reach a large enough customer base" for its £4.99 per month offer.

"We think the dynamic route to market is the mobile one, like Deezer's with Orange," said Alice Enders, music expert at Enders Analysis.

"Selling music subscriptions to broadband households has the problem that the account holder isn't necessarily the one who listens to the most music.

"Free offers often promote experimentation, but it can be hard to get people to dig into their pockets afterwards."

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 31 October 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

complete* FELT collection now up!

*no 'Snakes Crinkle..' but hey.

piscesx, Friday, 4 November 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

I canceled a couple of weeks ago, it won't be compatible with Tiger soon anyway.

sleeve, Friday, 4 November 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

Missing question from their FAQ: "How do I play a track?"

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

Is there a reason why I'd want to sync my ipod to Spotify? As far as I can tell it would just result in fewer songs on my ipod.

Also, I'm trying to figure out what would be the best portable device to use with itunes and spotify. I have pretty big libraries in itunes and spotify and I'd love to have a single device that can play all that stuff together, but my options seem to be limited to a really large ipod that can't run the spotify app or a smaller ipod touch that wouldn't be able to hold all of my mp3s. Are there other options I haven't considered?

Moodles, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

Some sort of large capacity android-based mp3 player? If they exist.

oppet, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

does android support itunes?

Moodles, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

oh I don't think so actually. I overlooked that.

oppet, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

is it now normal that one gets up to three ads played in a row, with no "extended listening" compensation later on? dudes really ramped up on the coca-cola ads.

chaningning tatumtum (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 November 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link


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