all the quoted e-reader prices are for the special offers versions
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
triiicky
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
ah the new e-readers all say "kindle" on the back in big letters, lame
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
not visible in any of the pics on the amazon page, only in the intro video, classy amazon
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
They also come with a battery pack shaped like a sandwich board with "BUY AMAZON PRODUCTS" on one side and "ENJOY THE GREAT NEW TASTE OT SOYLENT GREEN" on the other.
― PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
i like how amazon makes base mercantilism work as a counterpoint to apples visionary user experience based approach
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
like theres more than one way to skin a tablet
amazon: we got stuff
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
A big cloud of stuff.
― PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
just realized the new e-readers also don't have keyboards. hmm, guess the note-taking feature is being deemphasized.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
oh he didn't demo an onscreen keyb did he
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
i thought keyboards were a bit of a killer app, searching for the first mention of that guy who has suddenly reappeared in ch. 32, who the hell is he again? can't do that in my sony e-reader.
― ledge, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's weird, even searching for books on the amazon store will be more of a pain with a virtual keyboard, especially on the non-touch versions.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
I AM THE TABLET
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
^ any tablet wars news makes me hear loutallica now
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
you know, RIM's playbook was actually a pretty awesome piece of hardware, they failed because a) no native integration with their bread-and-butter BES, b) no apps, and c) price. amazon's apparently integrated the fire pretty well into their own cloud/content arena and the price is double-dip recession appropriate so hey welcome to the partay
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
I'm glad to see tablet prices going down, but the Kindle Fire isn't tempting to me. It looks lousy as an ebook reader and android tablets still don't have many good games to buy.
― anorange (abanana), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
And you know they're going to do the Apple trick of introducing a new model with a camera and 3G at some point in the next 18 months.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
and the original model will cost $99 w/in the year
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
and as HP proved $99 is the price point at which consumers will gobble tablets like tictacs
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Will this tablet allow me to buy things from Amazon?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
is this thing iOS
― (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━sʇʇnq━┻ (cozen), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
Like the look of the touch Kindle, hate the keyboard on current Kindle. Fire? pff. Aspect ratio is all wrong for a start.
― stet, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.businessweek.com/printer/magazine/the-omnivore-09282011.html
― markers, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Lots of quotes from my buddy Jateen in that one! He now runs jelli...
― schwantz, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
Aspect ratio is all wrong for a start.
Amazon's target market isn't calculating ratios
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
too lazy to read up on the new models - so I'm guessing the Fire has an iPad like display while the others still have e-ink (ie. what I'm really interested in)? I suppose it is not worth waiting for color e-ink in the short-term future?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 29 September 2011 07:49 (twelve years ago) link
so the fire is cloud-storage based but with no 3g support? that seems ... crippled
― thomp, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah kinda ruins it for traveling
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:24 (twelve years ago) link
it has 8gb onboard; presumably the idea is you sync what you might want to watch/listen to for the next (x) days every time you touch base somewhere with wifi; i'm not sure how good of an idea that is
relatedly, the 'free cloud storage' is for amazon-bought content
― thomp, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
and all these models will be US only? wtf
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
90 quid in the UK, getting more and more tempted
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link
i need to spend some time with one tho before i'm convinced it can replace a book, but just the thought of being able to carry around multi volume classics in my pocket is mad tempting
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
I was thinking £90 was a good price too, except the US price being $79 (roughly £50) makes me think 'fuck Amazon' tbh.
― 44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link
everybody fucks the UK over re: gadget prices tbf
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
I think the UK one is ad-free though, no?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
haven't seen ads mentioned on the Amazon site, can't quite get my head around how it works anyway - u pay cash money for some shit that then bombs you with ads while you're trying to read??
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
when you wake it from standby
― thomp, Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
i find it a bullshit piece of price structuring, though, & hopefully they will phase it out
wouldn't want a pc that showed me adverts during startup either
― thomp, Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
then you buy the somewhat more expensive version
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
the Kindle 3 ads are easily ignored imo - screensaver graphics when you shut it off and a banner ad at the bottom of the home screen only. No ads while reading books, playing games, etc. Most are for special offers from amazon, though they were pushing that ABC show Revenge hard for a few weeks. I was wary before we bought one but it was worth saving the $50.
I also found that if you load up your Kindle and don't go online for 3-4 days, the ads disappear and are replaced with a generic "Please go online to receive special offers" graphic.
― llurk, Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the ads are only when the kindle is "off." i don't have ads but i can't see how it would be much more annoying than seeing the same 20 pictures of boring authors over and over again. there's apparently an easy way to hack the kindle and put your own pictures in, but i haven't tried it and it probably wouldn't work on the ad-based version.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
You can jailbreak the cheap ad-supported Kindle to make it ad-free.
― elan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i've got the ad-supported kindle and the ads really don't intrude at all--they're only there when it's off, and funny thing is i don't really look at the thing while it's off
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
cool. it just seems like an odd feature in the first place?
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
it really is, when it first came out i remember people saying it sounded like a joke the dev people came up with that the finance department thought was a real idea
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
i just emailed myself 4 books-in-pdf, testing out the "convert to kindle format" thing for the first time. we'll see how it goes. also lol at the idea that i'm gonna read all of these books.
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm92Tnp953c
― markers, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
I've read a few pdf books on my Kindle. Had to monkey with the text size to make it a good fit for the screen, but eventually they worked out fine.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I've loaded a couple wire-loaded PDFs on it before, but never gone through the whole "email to myself with 'convert' in the subject line" bit.
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link