DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrELt5f9kI

Paxo: "I hear you do a good reverse Pterodactyl?"

(PS: I at first thought it was a reverse aardvaark, it is not. I googled. And, oh Urban Dictionary, no-one does that. No-one.)

Mark G, Thursday, 29 September 2011 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

(I mean, what's wrong with just leaving it there?)

Mark G, Thursday, 29 September 2011 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

dunno how we can vote for the guy now tbh

I hear he's the next Michael Foot. Personally, I think we need leadership for a better future.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 29 September 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

I had been thinking that, boundary changes aside, they'd probably lost as many seats as they were going to at the last election, but then I remembered about Scotland.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 September 2011 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

I can't remember if this is the right thread for this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/29/alessio-rastani-no-prank

Mister Potato shares Manchester United’s commitment to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 29 September 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

One Osborne ally says that Margaret Thatcher's 1983 campaign, in the face of a recession and rising unemployment, is now more of a model than Reagan's 1984 one.

Are they forgetting the part the SDP played in splitting the vote in 83?

carson dial, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link

Everyone forgets that. And the SDP in general.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:08 (twelve years ago) link

think there might've been some kind of REJOICE jingoism going on as well iirc

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:09 (twelve years ago) link

On Wednesday afternoons he would typically seek inspiration by visiting his Westminster staff in the annexe room, where he would play a game to find the best idea. On occasion this would descend into a competition to suggest the theme most likely to produce catastrophic consequences for his career. One of Boris’s favourites was: ‘Why David Cameron is a complete c**t’ – indeed, he was so enthused, he even started to compose an introduction beginning: ‘One thing that has become apparent to me in my years of Parliamentary service is that David Cameron is a complete c**t’.

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/36423/boris_cam_and_the_c_word.html

joe, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

So. Seventeen-headed Jedward.

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Thursday, 29 September 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxPFZra8MuM

"Mr. Idiot in Brussels, would you like to respond?"

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, I saw that, that was painful viewing.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Too bad it obscured some really good packages about Greece and Europe

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Indeed, but hearing this Daily Telegraph columnist call the man idiot a hundred times made me cringe

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

There was a bit when Richard Lambert just sat there and stared at Oborne and then ruefully just shook his head, like "This guy's a nutcase"

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Oborne bigging up Miliband in the Telegraph this week.

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 30 September 2011 08:08 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway weekly bin collections! 80 mph on the motorway! Next election in the bag!

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 30 September 2011 08:23 (twelve years ago) link

Is Oborne on some reverse Mel Phillips shit or something?

Matt DC, Friday, 30 September 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link

I think he just likes watching his readers having strokes.

HostileLogic
Today 07:03 AM
Progressives are hairy-livered parasites; leeches that have attached themselves to the hide off humanity.

If Progressives were music, they would be a 100 mile long marching band of heavy-metal bagpiping, inbred, mutant blood-sucking vampires

We will need to do much much brtter than this.

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 30 September 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno, you couldn't do much brtter than that!

Mark G, Friday, 30 September 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

Where can I get me some heavy-metal bagpiping is what I want to know.

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 30 September 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/8/1310117598325/Prime-minster-David-Camer-007.jpg
FUCKING WELL TURN DOWN THAT BAGPIPE YOU BLOOD SUCKING VAMPIRE!

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 30 September 2011 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

That Oborne article is pretty good in terms of background but he's massively overrating Miliband's speech itself.

Miliband's main weakness is that he keeps trying to dress up bandwagon jumping as boldly leading from the front.

Matt DC, Friday, 30 September 2011 10:30 (twelve years ago) link

He was praising him on QT last night too, but then Oborne is either nuts or drunk, isn't he?

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Friday, 30 September 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/01/george-osborne-bullingdon-club-chancellor

this is such disappointing bullshit - i'd be more satisfied by an article that said

"The all-male dining club, which the prime minister, David Cameron, also belonged to as an undergraduate, is open only to sons of aristocratic families or the super-rich"

and ended there.

schlump, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah the sanctimonious "Osborne got drunk at university and had friends who got in fights" tone of that article is utterly pointless.

psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

keeping my fingers crossed the Graun doesn't start digging into Hull's notorious Marlborough Acid Posse.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Also today: the Louise Mensch interview careens into more judgemental editorialising than I'd expect - I'm basically sympathetic to ridiculing Mensch's "I've been poor too" nonsense but obsessing about her (alleged) plastic surgery is weird and over-the-top:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/30/louise-mensch-phone-hacking-politics

psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

tim farron on question time the other night wearing a jesus fish on his lapel

conrad, Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

'jesus fish' should be a way trippier lapel ornament than the thing you mean

schlump, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

Philip Hammond believes that the 70mph limit is outdated, because cars are far safer now than they were when the limit was introduced in 1965. "The economic benefits will outweigh the very, very small impact in casualty numbers," he said, adding that the move will "put Britain back in the fast lane of global economies."
Wait, what?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 2 October 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

time is money, speed means time, speed needs fuel, fuel gets tax, tax funds NHS, NHS treats road accident victims but any additional road accident victims that result from faster driving are more likely to just die and thus not increase the burden upon it - we all win

conrad, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

it could even decrease the NHS burden as if everyone is driving faster then the fatalities:mere serious injuries ratio in crashes that would have happened anyway would be higher. o glorious day.

Vote Liberal Democrat

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

Tory doublespeak never more tortuous and beautiful than when they're explaining away employment rights.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

How are the Liberal Democrats explaining it?

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

they seem to be oddly reticent.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

i'm liking "if we make it easier for employers to sack staff on a whim then it will boost employment", cd see it being usefully applied to the machinery of government for example

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

"What about the rights of people currently sitting at home with nothing to do, desperate to get work, but the business can't afford to employ them because they fear they are going to be taken to the tribunal?"

Gotta love this though. It would be funny if it didn't fuck up a lot of people's lives.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

Still, to quote Philip Hammond, "The economic benefits will outweigh the very, very small impact in casualty numbers"

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'd expect to see more efforts to casualise full-time employment as we go on. People acting as temps or agency workers make up a significant percentage of the workforce. If you can't create new jobs, you can boost the figures for 'permanent employment' by getting rid of the barriers that stop people hiring full-time staff - like the expectation that you're going to need to treat them fairly.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

"vexatious employment tribunals"

Once Were Moderators (DG), Monday, 3 October 2011 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

NSFW

James Mitchell, Monday, 3 October 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/02/david-cameron-sorry-female-mps

"If I offended anyone, I'm hugely sorry."

44.9 percent indie rock individualist (onimo), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/oct/03/nhs-bill-doctors-lords

it would be nice if this was a big deal

btw those last two links posted above are gross & have rattled around my head since i read them. the fetishism involved in supporting 'faster deeper harder' cuts - which i don't really think anyone is pushing for at this stage, other than weird contrarian rich kid tories for whom it must seem radical and dispassionately principled - & then, while semi-erect, staying up on indesign til three am eagerly designing a risque poster towards the same end, is really gross.

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

which i don't really think anyone is pushing for at this stage

Some are, right wing thinktank wonks, pretty sure a few Tory MPs too but have probably been told to button it

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

just wanna c&p http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/oct/04/conservative-conference-2011-live-coverage here

lots of winning ideas like cutting taxes, encouraging job seekers to seek for several hours a day (to find those jobs that hide between the cracks!) to reduce unemployment, etc.

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

encouraging job seekers to seek for several hours a day

Uhhhhh, how exactly? Stand on the sidelines, shouting "Get on with it, you lazy sods"

The PM will force claimants to spend more time every day looking for work... Only unemployed people with a long record of previous hard work will be allowed time to ponder future job offers.

Fucking idiots

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

amusing to watch may blunder into an obvious trap on the bbc coverage re the non-existent criminal and his cat

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

What's postman pat been up to now?

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link


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